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I only used Otaku to generally describe anime lovers, if your a casual watcher than fine, and I only meant people should show some manners when addressing the president in public.
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I have a dream that one day, I will become President. Now, hate me! Booboo gaga!
Posted 2/11/12
You earn respect and the law and government have yet to earn mine.

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youwannaroll wrote:


Spiderssoul wrote:
Being Otaku....(etc etc etc)


it makes me laugh so much that people are so happy to call themselves otaku without really understanding what the implications of the word are. (obsessed, crazy fan. often poorly social, fat and smelly.)


I think it all depends on your definition of otaku. The traditional version then yes I agree that applies but the Westernized version certainly doesn't mean that at all. Yes words (hell even hand gestures) can change depending on where you are in the world. IMO all the Westernized version means is someone who watches a LOT of anime and/or reads a LOT of manga. Granted from this we learn about their culture and some otaku even study Japanese culture/language in college. Then we get into the weeaboo realm. Where EVERYTHING Japanese is better than that persons original culture. then I guess it's (obsessed, crazy fan. often poorly social, (maybe) fat and smelly).

I don't think we have to keep the original meaning of otaku. I know there are a lot of other countries represented here but as an American I'm kinda proud we can take such a negative word and make it our own.

/end of rant ..... if that can be considered a rant




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We are required to identify his authority as President of the United States, and nothing more. We don't have to like him, we don't have to respect him, we just have to identify the powers of his political seat. You're not going to jail for telling the POTUS to f*** off, though it won't earn you any brownie points either.


Yeah I completely agree with your point of view. I hated George W. Bush but I always wondered if I met him could I pull a Stephen Colbert on him? Ohh wait. That video kinda nullifies this whole question. Go look at "stephen colbert white house press correspondents dinner" in youtube. Last time I checked he was still on the air.


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I find it to be at the height of immaturity that Bush is mentioned at all, this trend of hating one man for more faults than one person were even capable of having, shows mimicry in the parents who taught their kids early on, "Bush is a damn fool" nah, people that still rant about him like in the days chuck Norris jokes were cool need to reboot their stagnant brains. I concur, its now time to make fun of a president deserved of these rants, Obummer. ;D

But honestly, he's in the position were i respect him for what he is, but not for what he does. The man can't lead, and I can only wait impatiently for this upcoming reelection.
Posted 2/11/12

CobaltRain wrote:

I find it to be at the height of immaturity that Bush is mentioned at all, this trend of hating one man for more faults than one person were even capable of having, shows mimicry in the parents who taught their kids early on, "Bush is a damn fool" nah, people that still rant about him like in the days chuck Norris jokes were cool need to reboot their stagnant brains. I concur, its now time to make fun of a president deserved of these rants, Obummer. ;D

But honestly, he's in the position were i respect him for what he is, but not for what he does. The man can't lead, and I can only wait impatiently for this upcoming reelection.


Guess what?! I get to vote this year! YAYYYYYY!
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To badmouth the president or any members of congress was called "sedition" and you could get tossed into jail for such things years ago.

Fortunately they got rid of those laws before Nixon was president.

When I was a kid, about the time Nixon was president, I was taught that we should have respect for our elders and statesmen. I didn't understand the workings of Watergate, I was about 11, and I didn't understand why people said terrible things about President Nixon.
I always asked people why . . . I was told to shut-up a lot.

After I got older and had my own personal "Watergate moment" . . . I started questioning people why politics is the way it is and why should I respect anyone in office . . . I ignore people telling me to shut up and ask them for a REAL answer.

I also decided that if I do not disagree with someone on some things I should think about whether I need to pull my head out of my ass or not . . . in other-words make sure that my opinion is genuine.

I guess I'm trying to say respecting the law is a good thing but respecting authority isn't . . . ultimately law is nothing without authority and if the authorities are a bunch of assholes, we should make sure they know that, at the very least.

Generally I tend to think the right-wingers are bigger assholes . . . but (no pun) they all seem to be assholes...

People say that about me too . . .
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D01BCDN3 wrote:


CobaltRain wrote:

I find it to be at the height of immaturity that Bush is mentioned at all, this trend of hating one man for more faults than one person were even capable of having, shows mimicry in the parents who taught their kids early on, "Bush is a damn fool" nah, people that still rant about him like in the days chuck Norris jokes were cool need to reboot their stagnant brains. I concur, its now time to make fun of a president deserved of these rants, Obummer. ;D

But honestly, he's in the position were i respect him for what he is, but not for what he does. The man can't lead, and I can only wait impatiently for this upcoming reelection.


Guess what?! I get to vote this year! YAYYYYYY!


Obamas going dooooown then
Posted 2/11/12

CobaltRain wrote:


D01BCDN3 wrote:


CobaltRain wrote:

I find it to be at the height of immaturity that Bush is mentioned at all, this trend of hating one man for more faults than one person were even capable of having, shows mimicry in the parents who taught their kids early on, "Bush is a damn fool" nah, people that still rant about him like in the days chuck Norris jokes were cool need to reboot their stagnant brains. I concur, its now time to make fun of a president deserved of these rants, Obummer. ;D

But honestly, he's in the position were i respect him for what he is, but not for what he does. The man can't lead, and I can only wait impatiently for this upcoming reelection.


Guess what?! I get to vote this year! YAYYYYYY!


Obamas going dooooown then




Now, I have to actually wait until I turn 18. Crap.
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D01BCDN3 wrote:

Separation of powers, limited government, all constitutional.

He's the president, but we the people still govern him as well. It's kind of like balanced here and a way of popular sovereignty.

I don't think so, since it does not state in the constitution nor any branch, as far as I am concerned with.

President Obama, I hate you. :)


Yeah,i think so.President Obama, I hate you.
Posted 2/11/12

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D01BCDN3 wrote:

Separation of powers, limited government, all constitutional.

He's the president, but we the people still govern him as well. It's kind of like balanced here and a way of popular sovereignty.

I don't think so, since it does not state in the constitution nor any branch, as far as I am concerned with.

President Obama, I hate you. :)


Yeah,i think so.President Obama, I hate you.


Kenyagkvs...sounds familiar.
Posted 2/11/12

kenyagkvs wrote:


D01BCDN3 wrote:

Separation of powers, limited government, all constitutional.

He's the president, but we the people still govern him as well. It's kind of like balanced here and a way of popular sovereignty.

I don't think so, since it does not state in the constitution nor any branch, as far as I am concerned with.

President Obama, I hate you. :)


Yeah,i think so.President Obama, I hate you.


Kenyagkvs...sounds familiar.
Posted 2/11/12
You can still get killed for treason in England.
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I think there's a slight misunderstanding of the concept of 'disrespecting' a police officer or judge. You see, I can freely disrespect a police officer or judge as much as I want (don't be moronic when interpreting that phrase). There is nothing sacred about police, judges, or senators. What I CAN'T do, though (at least not without legal ramifications), is disrespect those officials in a manner that would interfere with their ability to carry out their duties. So, I can say that a particular judge is the most incompetent moron ever to sit in a courtroom...I just can't say it in that judge's courtroom while that judge is presiding. If I hear about a police officer doing something...in poor taste...I can single out that one cop and pretty much say whatever I want about him as long as it isn't specifically libelous/slanderous. The cop in question may decide to figure some way to make an example out of me, but there isn't a law against me criticizing a particular police officer, or a particular police department, unless I'm doing it in front of them in a way that can be interpreted as making their job at that moment more difficult.

Similarly, I can say whatever the hell I want about the president (short of threats upon his person), as long as those statements do not interfere with the president's ability to carry out the duties of his office.

Yeah, there is some squish room for interpretation, which is where the courts come in, but most judgements have leaned towards protection of freedom of speech.

Now, yes, I read the article about the UK kid, but that's not the same case as with an American citizen speaking about an American president. I'm covered by my constitution...I would not expect the same protections in regards to public figures outside of my country of citizenship. Barring a foreign national from entry into the country is a matter for the State department, and involves a whole realm of laws and other considerations that have nothing to do with the rights of citizens within the nation. For the record, many countries, including the UK, have banned specific citizens from other nations from entry based entirely on something they've said -- I know of at least one major UK case where an American citizen was banned from entry because of statements he made outside of the UK, to an American audience, which had absolutely nothing to do with the UK or international matters at all.

In terms of modern attitudes vs. the past, things do change, and I do think there is some degree of ludicrous factionalism going on right now (and I really do not see one side as having any claim to moral authority in this matter). However, looking at the history of American politics, ever since the first days of the Republic, there have been absolutely disrespectful and downright nasty editorials about standing politicians, presidents, and judges in the very earliest of newspapers.

In other words, disrespectful statements about the president, whether well-considered or simply following some kind of childish fashion trend, are nothing new.
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