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Post Reply Puella Magi Madoka Magica Comes to Crunchyroll
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I feel bad for anyone who isn't watching this until now.
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Well there goes my last hope that Crunchy would have something for everyone this season. -.-
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This is great! I have already seen the whole series and will continue to purchase the blu-ray releases as they become avaliable, but its good to see I can send my friends over here to get started on the show.
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I want to see it too!! But NO, only USA
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Aethers wrote:
If everyone has already seen it, does that mean people here are still watching the unlicensed sites...?)

well duhh.. i mean, not to be a prick about it, but what did you expect? (technically, i imagine bittorrent is still the number 1 source, but that's splitting hairs)
i saw it like 6 months ago, and it was already "old" by then. it -finished- airing almost a year ago. i made this same complaint the other day in.. some other thread... that if the companies who license anime are just going to sit on it for a whole year, and then release it for like 40 bucks for 4 eps (price i heard quoted in this thread)... is there -really- any surprise that fansubbing has no end of supporters?
so like.. 120 bucks, give or take, for a half-length series. admittedly, a REALLY awesome series, but it's only one series. again, and they WONDER why anime has trouble catching on and making sales here. WTF..


*sighs* How spoiled us anime fans have become.

The higher price amount for Madoka stems from the fact that Aniplex already knows how popular the series is, and the versions that they are bringing over to the US are almost carbon copies of the original Japanese releases. Therefore they want the price tag to stay at about what it would cost if you imported it right now from Japan (and it's still cheaper than importing it). Also, there really is no American business middleman working on this series it's being distributed directly by AniplexUSA. No, Funimation, Sentai, none of that, and usually when you have the middle person that's when you get the lower prices or more episodes per disc. Since there is none such for this series they can pretty much charge what they want.

Honestly the price for Madoka is about what we paid for any series nearly 5 years ago (that includes only getting 4 to 5 episodes sometimes 3 per disc), and the price 5 years ago is laughable compared to the prices you paid for anime in the early 90's before the boom. We're really spoiled these days with our anime prices, and people are going to watch fansubs regardless of the amount the industries charge for it. Whether or not that hurts or helps sales I honestly don't know. However, anime pricing being the main reason people choose to support fansubs is just a load of bull IMO. You have too many different avenues these days to get anime w/o going through fansubs. (Unless it's a series that has not been picked up by anyone even for streaming. Pita-Ten comes to mind for me.)
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KawaiiHimeko wrote:
*sighs* How spoiled us anime fans have become.

The higher price amount for Madoka stems from the fact that Aniplex already knows how popular the series is, and the versions that they are bringing over to the US are almost carbon copies of the original Japanese releases. Therefore they want the price tag to stay at about what it would cost if you imported it right now from Japan (and it's still cheaper than importing it). Also, there really is no American business middleman working on this series it's being distributed directly by AniplexUSA. No, Funimation, Sentai, none of that, and usually when you have the middle person that's when you get the lower prices or more episodes per disc. Since there is none such for this series they can pretty much charge what they want.

Honestly the price for Madoka is about what we paid for any series nearly 5 years ago (that includes only getting 4 to 5 episodes sometimes 3 per disc), and the price 5 years ago is laughable compared to the prices you paid for anime in the early 90's before the boom. We're really spoiled these days with our anime prices, and people are going to watch fansubs regardless of the amount the industries charge for it. Whether or not that hurts or helps sales I honestly don't know. However, anime pricing being the main reason people choose to support fansubs is just a load of bull IMO. You have too many different avenues these days to get anime w/o going through fansubs. (Unless it's a series that has not been picked up by anyone even for streaming. Pita-Ten comes to mind for me.)


so basically you're saying aniplex is overcharging for madoka, but it's slightly less than importing the untranslated japanese. nevermind what it actually -costs- them to make it. i appreciate them making faithful translations, but the price still kills the growth of the industry. and actually, the middle person charges their cut of the price too.. so they increase the price of anime. and they have no control over what format (number of eps per dvd, etc) that the company produces it in.

and yes, i agree that the price has come down some amount compared to average anime prices of the 90's... but "less hideously expensive" is still hideously expensive. we aren't spoiled at all; we're just being gouged less.

for me, pricing had nothing to do with watching Madoka on fansubs; i saw it like 6 months ago. and i was late getting to it. it was done airing like 6 months before that.i don't think it was even licensed at that point, tho i might be wrong. i haven't checked. i posted in another thread that one of the biggest points in costing the companies sales is how long it takes them to get a series out here. in this case, aniplex and CR are about a year behind. not exactly a speedy turnaround. like pricing, it's much better than in years past.. but still pretty bad. the second thing that costs them sales is the simply insane costs of buying anime.

i bought one series in the last 10 years: Eden's Bowy. and that was like 7 years ago. and it was STILL only $20 for a 4 ep disc. x6 discs, $120 for the 26 episodes. (5 ep each, the first 2 discs)
and now, aniplex wants $120 for a 12 ep series? bleh, as if. it's like they're trying to make anime a hobby only for the rich to be legitimately involved in.

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youwannaroll wrote:

so basically you're saying aniplex is overcharging for madoka, but it's slightly less than importing the untranslated japanese. nevermind what it actually -costs- them to make it. i appreciate them making faithful translations, but the price still kills the growth of the industry. and actually, the middle person charges their cut of the price too.. so they increase the price of anime. and they have no control over what format (number of eps per dvd, etc) that the company produces it in.

and yes, i agree that the price has come down some amount compared to average anime prices of the 90's... but "less hideously expensive" is still hideously expensive. we aren't spoiled at all; we're just being gouged less.

for me, pricing had nothing to do with watching Madoka on fansubs; i saw it like 6 months ago. and i was late getting to it. it was done airing like 6 months before that.i don't think it was even licensed at that point, tho i might be wrong. i haven't checked. i posted in another thread that one of the biggest points in costing the companies sales is how long it takes them to get a series out here. in this case, aniplex and CR are about a year behind. not exactly a speedy turnaround. like pricing, it's much better than in years past.. but still pretty bad. the second thing that costs them sales is the simply insane costs of buying anime.

i bought one series in the last 10 years: Eden's Bowy. and that was like 7 years ago. and it was STILL only $20 for a 4 ep disc. x6 discs, $120 for the 26 episodes. (5 ep each, the first 2 discs)
and now, aniplex wants $120 for a 12 ep series? bleh, as if. it's like they're trying to make anime a hobby only for the rich to be legitimately involved in.



I apologize if this sounds a bit a-holish I don't intend for that, but typing does nothing for tone of voice.

No we're still spoiled. We have unrealistic expectations on pricing for a franchise that's not made in whichever country we currently reside in. It's made in Japan and we're not even getting charged half of what Japanese people pay to own a series that's made in their own country. Anime is not a right, it's not something that HAS to be given to us for purchase. It is in fact an expensive hobby, and any anime fan who comes into the culture should be prepared to have to pay to get what they want.

Let's not forget that these companies are a business they are in it to make money. Sure some happen to be run by fans, but at the end of the day Aniplex still needs to bring in an acceptable amount of money to warrant the expenses that they incurred bringing this show out for purchase. Now you wanting a series at a lesser price also does not help an industry that is still considered niche. Anime does not have a mainstream buying market, even if companies brought the prices down the industry would just die because of the fact that they are undercutting themselves. Marketing to us cost money, packing cost money, producing the series cost money, translations money, dubbing money, voice actors money. They have to be able to make up these costs somewhere and how do you expect them to do this by selling it to us at an even lower price then what's being sold now?

Don't mistake me I do believe that there are other reason to watch fansubs, I just don't agree with the pricing reason since you have places like Crunchyroll.

As for the speedy turnaround I'm not even going to touch that.


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HOLY CRAP YES!!!
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I will wait till the last episode is posted on here then watch it again. the last episode of the series is truly mind blowing in a good way :-)

I am planning to do a Madoka Magica marathon :-)
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whatever : | i have the dvds.
annoys me that its only for USA here. >.>
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amberkinn wrote:

I feel bad for anyone who isn't watching this until now.

No need to feel sorry for those of us that waited for a legal venue.

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amberkinn wrote:

I feel bad for anyone who isn't watching this until now.

No need to feel sorry for those of us that waited for a legal venue.



Because it became illegal to buy DVD's through eBay, yes? (:
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amberkinn wrote:
Because it became illegal to buy DVD's through eBay, yes? (:

That depends on whether they were bootlegs or authorized (the price would probably give that away).

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Posted 2/16/12
Woo! Puella's here at CR? I've been meaning to watch, but I never had the chance.
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Yay Even though i already watch it

it would have better if i watched it on cr... if they had it

But i can rewatch it on cruncyroll now
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