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Religion: A Mental Illness?
Posted 3/6/12 , edited 3/7/12
Below is a bunch of bullshit made up by me, please disregard everything I said.

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LOLOL this again? I thought we were finished with the subject, this thread is just a sugar coated mirror of your previous one.
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heIIow wrote:

Please ignore the religious posters that retaliate to this thread (which may likely overwhelm in percentage), and just imagine them to be little insects flying around. DO NOT RESPOND.



Little biased, is it not? Might as well send us to the "back of the bus."

edit* its people like you who obviously have issues with what people FREELY CHOOSE to believe in. A prime example of why wars over religion exist. You point your finger at the religious believers, whether informal or formal and even have the nerve to say that they (even myself) have mental disorders? And don't even try to say mental disorders aren't a bad thing because "disorder" has no "good" definition. You make me sick.

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well alright then people don't like joking around at all......
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Please ignore the religious posters that retaliate to this thread (which may likely overwhelm in percentage), and just imagine them to be little insects flying around. DO NOT RESPOND.



Flamebait.



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heIIow wrote:


EDIT:

Please ignore the two posts below mine. It is a perfect example of why it needs to be ignored.


^ Prime example of why you shouldn't be taken seriously, and why your opinions should be kept to yourself. You seem to just want an outlet to spout everything you have to say and see if anyone "agrees" with you, rather than debate the topic with those who disagree Go and make a club if you want to discuss it and feel better amongst your little "friends."


Edit* I also enjoyed how you still used my post as an example (and another's as well) when you have zero experience with and studying ours' and other different religions. You lack the proper knowledge and credibility to even post a thread topic concerning your own "beliefs".


Heck, I could even make an essay long rant on how I think you have a mental disorder and go on to provide scientific speculations based on the fact that you, the minority of this world, do not practice a Relgion. Yet I don't, because I have no desire to attempt to disprove other's religions based on MY OWN OPINIONS and cause a pointless quarrel.

Take your obvious issues that dwell within your psyche and take them elsewhere.
Posted 3/6/12

Mangasurf wrote:
edit* its people like you who obviously have issues with what people FREELY CHOOSE to believe in. A prime example of why wars over religion exist. You point your finger at the religious believers, whether informal or formal and even have the nerve to say that they (even myself) have mental disorders? And don't even try to say mental disorders aren't a bad thing because "disorder" has no "good" definition. You make me sick.


Open the second spoiler tab, then click on the first link.


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Flamebait.


It's necessary, and if you read my post I have already justified why.


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^ Prime example of why you shouldn't be taken seriously, and why your opinions should be kept to yourself. You seem to just want an outlet to spout everything you have to say and see if anyone "agrees" with you, rather than debate the topic with those who disagree Go and make a club if you want to discuss it and feel better amongst your little "friends."


Like I have stated, this is not a debate. If you honestly want to contribute to the thread, why don't you start with posting on-topic?
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Mangasurf wrote:


heIIow wrote:


EDIT:

Please ignore the two posts below mine. It is a perfect example of why it needs to be ignored.


^ Prime example of why you shouldn't be taken seriously, and why your opinions should be kept to yourself. You seem to just want an outlet to spout everything you have to say and see if anyone "agrees" with you, rather than debate the topic with those who disagree Go and make a club if you want to discuss it and feel better amongst your little "friends."


I agree with you. This person had the potential of being a good verbal sparring partner..but their discussion skills are surely lacking. And then Hellow just results to insults instead of trying to have a discussion like a non-mental disorder person who have developed their mental factors.

Tsk...all too bad. If I was a petty person, I'd say "I'll keep her in my prayers" But instead I'll say I hope she reaches this pinnacle of mental development herself one day.
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heIIow One thing to clarify: This is not discussing the 'validity' of any religion. It is already clear that there is -no- point in debating on religion, as it is analogous to the futility of discussing the existence of flying pigs. We already know religion is utter nonsense, and that is the starting point of this discussion. Please ignore the religious posters that retaliate to this thread (which may likely overwhelm in percentage), and just imagine them to be little insects flying around. DO NOT RESPOND.


If you want to show credibility for your argument you shouldn't try to coerce others to ignore opposing opinions on the matter. It makes you seem weak and that you may not truly stand by your own feelings on the matter. Also, as much as I hate religion myself, you should probably try to be a little less cruel in your word use, as even though you explain that you don't feel that mental disorders are bad all around, society still feels differently about it.


Also, btw, your bias is showing.
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From a purely logical standpoint, the OP makes a pretty convincing case, though I think using the term 'Mental illness', in whatever form, is inviting many people to stop reading, and dismiss this entire post as an attack on their beliefs, thus making the chances of them actually considering your point smaller than they were originally

As a rule, I think you're spot on about how a person becoming religious is largely dependent on who they're raised by, who they're raised with, and where they're raised. I was quite fortunate to be brought up where I was; My parents identify themselves as Christian, and I went to church a bit when I was really young, but they were completely happy for me to make up my own mind, and openly encouraged that. After several truly good and just people I knew died young, and when I asked the priest at our local church the question:
"If I lead a good life, and help those around me, but don't believe in god, will I go to hell?"
And he responded with the answer, "Yes.", that sort of clinched it for me.

Bollocks to any deity who is so self obsessed as to deny happiness to the good unless they worship at his feet.

I think many people seek and genuinely gain comfort from practicing religion, and as such I would never really be anti-religion, not really anyway. I do, however, believe in freedom of speech, freedom of your own body, and most of all, freedom of belief, in whatever form that takes. It can't be denied that time and time again, religious leaders, religious politicians and religious door-knockers prove that they can't be trusted to extend to us the same courtesy. The problem lies not in religion, nor with the lack of it, but in humanity's inability as a whole to accept that other people should, by unquestionable right, have all of those things in abundance, and that, dear friends, is the most serious problem that we as a species have always faced.

"I am right, you are wrong, I will make you believe what I believe and govern over you guided by what this book says."

Religious people and non-religious people are both often guilty of that, and if we are ever to have any chance of creating an actual decent society that allows you to worship who or what you want and live how you want, this has to end.

No more wrong or right when it comes to your mind, body or your faith, those things are yours and yours alone.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
Posted 3/6/12
I know that my intention is an interesting topic to discuss, but unfortunately it's off-topic and beginning to get repetitive. Please take it to PMs.
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heIIow wrote:

I know that my intention is an interesting topic to discuss, but unfortunately it's off-topic and beginning to get repetitive. Please take it to PMs.


If you had any credibility and experience whatsoever dealing with these religions you are accusing, then I would take your post seriously. But all you are doing is insulting Religion in general.

As i have said in previous thread. Take note hellow.


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kenkorrupt wrote:



Religion is not dirty, people are dirty.



The blame should not be directed towards intangible foundations, but towards those men and women who wrongfully 'wear' their Religion over-zealously as radicals and extremists do. I won't elaborate with examples because my intention isn't towards pinpointing and accusing certain religions.


Yup.

How very cautious of you. I applaud the flame-retardant nature of your reply. If only all discussion pertaining to religion could be conducted in such a way, why - we may even be able to achieve world peace.

Funny how far a bit of consideration goes, isn't it?


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Posted 3/6/12
no it's not mental illness despite that long ass tl;dr it is all state of mind or upbringing and which way you choose to perceive those teachings.
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^Look at my definitions and my specified perspective.
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it is not but people who go over board yea they are. Religion is used so that us humans find a meaning of life as many do not want to think that we and then we just die. My parents tried to raise me muslim but I did not become one as I am an atheist. Most religions have this one guy who god talked to like jesus(was also his so called son), moses, Mohamed and so on why would god only talk to them and not everyone else.
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