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STOP JOSEPH KONY ! MAKE THE WORLD AWARE OF HIS ACTIONS !
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AsuraCryin wrote:

Before you decide to support this movement, have you really thought about it? It claims to be in support of "peace" and "humanitarianism" when it's calling forth war - a bloody pathway to achieve this. On top of that, you are supporting to kill child soldiers.

Did you, the supporters, look through the politics of this? Do you realize the efforts and money needed for America, as with other countries, to take down the man? I, for one, believe America's interventionism with other countries has brought many spite upon us and we should not get involved any more.

Yes, the man should be brought down, but that's up for the Uganda to decide for themselves.

The problem won't be solved just by bringing 'justice' to this man. What about the aftermath? The group will still remain, loyal followers will continue with the ideals of Joseph Kony. Do you people realize that the Taliban/Al Qaeda still exist even after America assassinated Osama Bid Laden?

And what if America truly intervenes? We're not just going to leave, we'll be setting up military bases there for "good purposes" when, in reality, we'll be taking their natural resources giving off the illusion of "protection."


Well honestly, nothing in this world is achieved without sacrifice if you review your history books. People like us, in our secure and sheltered countries are used to sugar coated information and news. We have no experience dealing with these real situations, and most of the time the way that makes us feel better isn't going to be the way that solves things. Believe it or not, every species on this planet commits "violence," so it simply isn't avoidable and sometimes is the only answer. Whether we disapprove of that fact because it makes us feel disgusted or not, that is Life. Get over it, and accept it, and begin to understand why it is necessary.

Remember, the only easy day was yesterday.


(and thats not just aimed at the quoted person)
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Posted 3/7/12
You know what i hate? I have a best friend who comes from Uganda and i know about this man. Why the fuck are you only making a big deal of it now when it could have been done decades ago? Wht the fuck is there a forum on this site about this? Do you really think you can do anything about this? For fuck's sake, grow up!
Posted 3/7/12
I'm not thinking too clearly now so forgive me if I make little sense.



Mangasurf wrote:

Well honestly, nothing in this world is achieved without sacrifice if you review your history books.


I understand that, but that wasn't really the point of my post although my post was a rather unclear in its message.


People like us, in our secure and sheltered countries are used to sugar coated information and news. We have no experience dealing with these real situations, and most of the time the way that makes us feel better isn't going to be the way that solves things.


We have the information to looked things through except many of us just blindly accepted things rather than taking the time to understand the situation(s). I personally don't think we should be involved with the problems if it doesn't affect us.


Believe it or not, every species on this planet commits "violence," so it simply isn't avoidable and sometimes is the only answer. Whether we disapprove of that fact because it makes us feel disgusted or not, that is Life. Get over it, and accept it, and begin to understand why it is necessary.


I know and understand we can't 100% remove violence. I've already done the things you've mention.

The point of my message was to tell people to think deeper about the situation. Look into what's [really] happening, what the group is doing (besides raising awareness and the "charity"*), and research for themselves. I just want people to understand this more before they blindly support something.


*A research of the group reveals they support the Uganda government and are pro military. There's also information on the donated money.
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I bet you didn't even know who Joseph Kony was, or even what/where Uganda is before that video came out. Do you know who Hussein Aided is? or Bashar al'Assad is? Or who Muammar Gaddafi was? The middle east and Africa are full of guerrilla leaders and dictators that are doing things that are fuckin disgusting. Its nice to see people giving a shit for once, but its only cuz that video happened to go viral... if you really care about humanity, do some research on whats happening in Syria right now, or Somalia, Sudan or one of the other dozens of war torn countries out there. It seems like giving a shit about the world might just be a week long face book fad... or maybe people can open their eyes and educated, but i doubt that.
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This is like people pointing out a fight between animals in a zoo. All the people will voice their concern about the animals mercilessly beating each other up but will not and feel no reason to take any action to stop the fighting(they probably are incapable of stopping it either way). The people will hoot and holler until a zookeeper feels an obligation to take some mediocre form of action that will only delay further fighting between the animals, maybe scolding or separating the opposing animals for a short time. Sure the spectating people will feel better the fighting has stopped momentarily, but tomorrow the same thing will happen again.
>end analogy
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Posted 3/7/12
Always incredible to see political hipsters treating world events like their favorite indie band, getting all mad when everyone knows about them.
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Posted 3/7/12

ispy12 wrote:

I bet you didn't even know who Joseph Kony was, or even what/where Uganda is before that video came out. Do you know who Hussein Aided is? or Bashar al'Assad is? Or who Muammar Gaddafi was? The middle east and Africa are full of guerrilla leaders and dictators that are doing things that are fuckin disgusting. Its nice to see people giving a shit for once, but its only cuz that video happened to go viral... if you really care about humanity, do some research on whats happening in Syria right now, or Somalia, Sudan or one of the other dozens of war torn countries out there. It seems like giving a shit about the world might just be a week long face book fad... or maybe people can open their eyes and educated, but i doubt that.


thankyou! another observant person right here
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Posted 3/7/12
HOLY CRAP! PEOPLE ARE NOW FINDING OUT THAT A CONTINENT STRICKEN WITH CIVIL WAR HAS WARLORDS WHO COMMIT WAR CRIMES!

Guess no one cared about Sierra Leone or Liberia.
Posted 3/7/12
I actually heard about Joseph Kony back in 2009 when an activist group known as Invisible Children came to our school and gave a presentation about the ongoing conflict with Joseph Kony and the LRA. Several people from the group got killed when bombs went off in Uganda. So that kinda makes most efforts to end the violence extremely difficult. So I guess raising awareness of the conflict (since it wasn't that well known beforehand) is probably the best thing people can do without risking their lives in dangerous territory.

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AsuraCryin wrote:

Before you decide to support this movement, have you really thought about it? It claims to be in support of "peace" and "humanitarianism" when it's calling forth war - a bloody pathway to achieve this. On top of that, you are supporting to kill child soldiers.

Did you, the supporters, look through the politics of this? Do you realize the efforts and money needed for America, as with other countries, to take down the man? I, for one, believe America's interventionism with other countries has brought many spite upon us and we should not get involved any more.

Yes, the man should be brought down, but that's up for the Uganda to decide for themselves.

The problem won't be solved just by bringing 'justice' to this man. What about the aftermath? The group will still remain, loyal followers will continue with the ideals of Joseph Kony. Do you people realize that the Taliban/Al Qaeda still exist even after America assassinated Osama Bid Laden?

And what if America truly intervenes? We're not just going to leave, we'll be setting up military bases there for "good purposes" when, in reality, we'll be taking their natural resources giving off the illusion of "protection."


Sir, you have said the most amazing words.
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Posted 3/8/12
Glad someone else has realised this Kony crap is all a sham. Kony hasn't been active in years, and hes already actively being hunted.
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Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:



go make a personal blog and rant there


Indeed... *looks at pages in this thread*
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And yet, the whole point of this thing is that Kony isnt widely known by the world.

A lot of us that are making a big stink about this weren't even born yet 25 years ago, or were just small children ourselves. So your snotty try at sarcasm is moot.
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So with thought processes like "well why didnt they stop him 30 years ago?" "Why should I care?" "Theres other dictators/murders/nutjobs/ out there, what about them?" were just supposed to sit back and let someone else take care of it?

Invisible Children might be shady and spotted in their record, but as Jesus once said, he who has no sin can cast the first stone. At least they are doing something. And as for the blathering about the activist group supporting military intervention, Kony is known to join peace talks and then back out and go on even more aggressive attacks for building his numbers. You do not try to talk down such people with peace talks. It never works. You go in and you exterminate them.

I agree with part of the anti-kony2012 movement in that we shoudnt just stop at Kony. Theres numerous other problems in the world that need fixing. If they stop at Kony, I will be in there with the rest of the people complaining that they were just doing it for the money.

I know its popular to be an asshat on the internet, after all no one is going to bust you in the nose physically for being a knuckledragging dipshit about stuff; but think reasonably about stuff like this instead of being sheeple and jumping on either of these bandwangons.

If you want to join with Kony2012, do your research about it, the same goes for joining in the bitchfest about how corrupt and shady the activist group is. Believing everything you hear/read/see is how we end up with terrible politicians and presidents.
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