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But I thought everyone is complicated...........
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I don't know why my friends, I just don't know.

Actually though, I would say that some women are and some women aren't. Just like men. I think this is more of a people issue.
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Okay, I relate to the OP almost 100%, the only difference is one year in age and it seems he has actually had a relationship with someone, if I am not mistaken.

I have gone my entire life only having one girl give me the time of day, and that was in first grade, she was my first, and only crush. Due to "life" happening, I have been raised solely by my Mother, at least since nine years old. So, because of that I seem to have a different perspective on the fairer sex than my peers. My Mother raised me to always in any circumstance be a gentleman, never belittle or judge someone based on appearance or social status (male or female). I'm not saying being raised this way was a bad thing or that I wish she hadn't, that isn't it at all. But, I have found that I have become the prototypical "nice guy." The guy that is thrown immediately into the friend-zone. It is rather disheartening that most of my female friends have told me that I would make such a good boyfriend, or that the girl that "gets" me is going to be so lucky. And I hate to even say this because it sounds abhorrently egotistical, but, I'm not the worst looking guy ever, I have actually been asked out by more men than I have women, which I have been told should be flattering. Though when you've never been asked out by a girl before it doesn't really help that ratio.

Now, I refuse to change being a gentleman, because I have seen firsthand that guys who are jerks get the girl. I've watched quite a few of my friends wreck themselves mentally and emotionally by going out with guys who are just scum. Many times I have been the shoulder they have cried on when something happened, and even with a few relationships I have had to bring to an end for them because they were scared to leave by themselves. None of those ended pretty. It has actually come to a point where I'm wondering if I'll ever be in a relationship with someone.

Sorry for such a long post, I'll end it here so I don't just start writing a book... though I have made pretty good headway it seems. (lol)


Do you feel like you're owed a relationship or something because unless a person has a genuine interest in you, they are under no obligation to ever go out with you. By saying all your friends put you in the "friendzone" you're saying all they are good for is being in a relationship with you. It also means your "friendship" with them is a lie because you didn't have the courage to just come out and say what you felt. Since you seem to get asked out by guys more often, unless you're straight, why don't you try going out with them?
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Dremux wrote:

Okay, I relate to the OP almost 100%, the only difference is one year in age and it seems he has actually had a relationship with someone, if I am not mistaken.

I have gone my entire life only having one girl give me the time of day, and that was in first grade, she was my first, and only crush. Due to "life" happening, I have been raised solely by my Mother, at least since nine years old. So, because of that I seem to have a different perspective on the fairer sex than my peers. My Mother raised me to always in any circumstance be a gentleman, never belittle or judge someone based on appearance or social status (male or female). I'm not saying being raised this way was a bad thing or that I wish she hadn't, that isn't it at all. But, I have found that I have become the prototypical "nice guy." The guy that is thrown immediately into the friend-zone. It is rather disheartening that most of my female friends have told me that I would make such a good boyfriend, or that the girl that "gets" me is going to be so lucky. And I hate to even say this because it sounds abhorrently egotistical, but, I'm not the worst looking guy ever, I have actually been asked out by more men than I have women, which I have been told should be flattering. Though when you've never been asked out by a girl before it doesn't really help that ratio.

Now, I refuse to change being a gentleman, because I have seen firsthand that guys who are jerks get the girl. I've watched quite a few of my friends wreck themselves mentally and emotionally by going out with guys who are just scum. Many times I have been the shoulder they have cried on when something happened, and even with a few relationships I have had to bring to an end for them because they were scared to leave by themselves. None of those ended pretty. It has actually come to a point where I'm wondering if I'll ever be in a relationship with someone.

Sorry for such a long post, I'll end it here so I don't just start writing a book... though I have made pretty good headway it seems. (lol)


Do you feel like you're owed a relationship or something because unless a person has a genuine interest in you, they are under no obligation to ever go out with you. By saying all your friends put you in the "friendzone" you're saying all they are good for is being in a relationship with you. It also means your "friendship" with them is a lie because you didn't have the courage to just come out and say what you felt. Since you seem to get asked out by guys more often, unless you're straight, why don't you try going out with them?


Holy shit, this was soooo long ago. I was such a child, oh dear jesus. I'm not too sure what frame of mind I was in at the time I wrote this, but I'm pretty sure it was one of my "Oh woe is me, I'll be alone forever. Give me attention" phases. Since then I've done a lot of growing up and that me is all but dead. I was hyper focusing on one girl and how she treated me. I took that treatment and superimposed it onto all the girls around me and fooled myself into believing that that's how they treated me as well. It was a very unhealthy time in my life mentally and then, sadly, physically. It's taken me a while to realize my worth as a person and now when I'm interested in someone, I tell them. I'm done waiting for something to happen, there is no "friendzone". That's all in your head. If you like someone tell 'em, if they don't feel the same way, well, at least you tried. This is all stuff I've come to realize since then and I wish I would have realized it sooner. But, forward is the only way the clock goes.
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I don't think women are complicated. I think people are complicated in general, but friendships and relationships arise because of being able to relate and communicate well with others.

I think there can be differences between males and females due to social cues and childrearing differences. But these differences are no more different than cultural, religious, social differences, etc. Being born in one continent, and then one country, and then one province/state, then one city, everybody is unique.

But women? Being 'complicated'? And men aren't? The term 'women are complicated', in a contemporary usage, is usually used by people who get rejected by others or have relationship issues. It isn't true as much as its an excuse for ones own social ineptitude.
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Holy shit, this was soooo long ago. I was such a child, oh dear jesus. I'm not too sure what frame of mind I was in at the time I wrote this, but I'm pretty sure it was one of my "Oh woe is me, I'll be alone forever. Give me attention" phases. Since then I've done a lot of growing up and that me is all but dead. I was hyper focusing on one girl and how she treated me. I took that treatment and superimposed it onto all the girls around me and fooled myself into believing that that's how they treated me as well. It was a very unhealthy time in my life mentally and then, sadly, physically. It's taken me a while to realize my worth as a person and now when I'm interested in someone, I tell them. I'm done waiting for something to happen, there is no "friendzone". That's all in your head. If you like someone tell 'em, if they don't feel the same way, well, at least you tried. This is all stuff I've come to realize since then and I wish I would have realized it sooner. But, forward is the only way the clock goes.


Glad to hear you learned from that and was able to move forward
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Dremux wrote:


Kanade_Yagami wrote:


Dremux wrote:

Okay, I relate to the OP almost 100%, the only difference is one year in age and it seems he has actually had a relationship with someone, if I am not mistaken.

I have gone my entire life only having one girl give me the time of day, and that was in first grade, she was my first, and only crush. Due to "life" happening, I have been raised solely by my Mother, at least since nine years old. So, because of that I seem to have a different perspective on the fairer sex than my peers. My Mother raised me to always in any circumstance be a gentleman, never belittle or judge someone based on appearance or social status (male or female). I'm not saying being raised this way was a bad thing or that I wish she hadn't, that isn't it at all. But, I have found that I have become the prototypical "nice guy." The guy that is thrown immediately into the friend-zone. It is rather disheartening that most of my female friends have told me that I would make such a good boyfriend, or that the girl that "gets" me is going to be so lucky. And I hate to even say this because it sounds abhorrently egotistical, but, I'm not the worst looking guy ever, I have actually been asked out by more men than I have women, which I have been told should be flattering. Though when you've never been asked out by a girl before it doesn't really help that ratio.

Now, I refuse to change being a gentleman, because I have seen firsthand that guys who are jerks get the girl. I've watched quite a few of my friends wreck themselves mentally and emotionally by going out with guys who are just scum. Many times I have been the shoulder they have cried on when something happened, and even with a few relationships I have had to bring to an end for them because they were scared to leave by themselves. None of those ended pretty. It has actually come to a point where I'm wondering if I'll ever be in a relationship with someone.

Sorry for such a long post, I'll end it here so I don't just start writing a book... though I have made pretty good headway it seems. (lol)


Do you feel like you're owed a relationship or something because unless a person has a genuine interest in you, they are under no obligation to ever go out with you. By saying all your friends put you in the "friendzone" you're saying all they are good for is being in a relationship with you. It also means your "friendship" with them is a lie because you didn't have the courage to just come out and say what you felt. Since you seem to get asked out by guys more often, unless you're straight, why don't you try going out with them?


Holy shit, this was soooo long ago. I was such a child, oh dear jesus. I'm not too sure what frame of mind I was in at the time I wrote this, but I'm pretty sure it was one of my "Oh woe is me, I'll be alone forever. Give me attention" phases. Since then I've done a lot of growing up and that me is all but dead. I was hyper focusing on one girl and how she treated me. I took that treatment and superimposed it onto all the girls around me and fooled myself into believing that that's how they treated me as well. It was a very unhealthy time in my life mentally and then, sadly, physically. It's taken me a while to realize my worth as a person and now when I'm interested in someone, I tell them. I'm done waiting for something to happen, there is no "friendzone". That's all in your head. If you like someone tell 'em, if they don't feel the same way, well, at least you tried. This is all stuff I've come to realize since then and I wish I would have realized it sooner. But, forward is the only way the clock goes.


wow u sound super smart/wise i think i learned something.
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Dude your in the wrong place to ask this question it cannot be accurately answered other than to say the less you know about women the more complicated they seem, you need to read the Mystery Method handbook, there are ways to get it for free, but i'd probably get in trouble for saying how. Hint if your are always being nice to them then they instantly put you into the friend-zone, be negative to them sometimes kind of a friendly sarcastic teasing that makes them laugh..They are suckers for that.
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Dude, people are complicated. Welcome to the human race.

Also, don't take anyone who thinks The Friend Zone is a real thing seriously.
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you just have to get to know them I mean everyone Is different.
Maybe your standards are too high?
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