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Girl commits suicide after being forced by judge to marry her rapist
Posted 3/15/12
What many people have noticed as they responded to this event, is the media's lack of mentioning that this is an Islamic tradition/Law and a part of Islamic culture, much like female honor killings, female castration, etc. (However, I do feel sympathy for moderate Muslim people as they try to reform and break away from fundamentalism because they are placed in an unfair spotlight with these sort of misogynist, theocratic barbarians). If you have any real interest in this, find an extended, detailed version of this story with diverse commenting from the populace.
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Posted 3/15/12

Mangasurf wrote:

Some cultures are refuse to enter the 21st century...


Seems to me they refused to enter the 20th....
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Posted 3/15/12
Sick bastards. I hope that judge dies really really slowly and painfully.
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Posted 3/15/12
That is really messed up. If I go rape somebody in Morocco and agrees to marry them, I am exempted from punishment? I still think the U.S is the worst. I'd rather go live in Vietnam or Japan. After all, who would choose to live in a country where elites and authorities don't even follow the Constitution. RON PAUL 2012!
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Posted 3/15/12

Bane13 wrote:

What many people have noticed as they responded to this event, is the media's lack of mentioning that this is an Islamic tradition/Law and a part of Islamic culture, much like female honor killings, female castration, etc. (However, I do feel sympathy for moderate Muslim people as they try to reform and break away from fundamentalism because they are placed in an unfair spotlight with these sort of misogynist, theocratic barbarians). If you have any real interest in this, find an extended, detailed version of this story with diverse commenting from the populace.


I learned to expect this after reading plenty of Islamic articles though, so I'm not really surprised.
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Posted 3/15/12
its sad that the person / victim had to do this.. id like to say i dont support suicide but i hate when narrow minded / sick / wrong people force people in to suicides or mass murder... will we never learn?
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Wait, so if I'm in Morocco and i rape someone and then promise to marry her... I don't go to jail?

I had a feeling that it was rooted in local customs but in this case things obviously went badly. I can't say for the whole since I don't have statistics but in this case it went badly. My question is how is forcing her to marry the man who raped her "resolve" anything? It would probably just make things worse, I mean really. He raped you and now you have to wake up in the same room as him everyday. (In this story that probably didn't happen, but the concept still applies.)
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Posted 3/15/12

Bane13 wrote:

What many people have noticed as they responded to this event, is the media's lack of mentioning that this is an Islamic tradition/Law and a part of Islamic culture, much like female honor killings, female castration, etc. (However, I do feel sympathy for moderate Muslim people as they try to reform and break away from fundamentalism because they are placed in an unfair spotlight with these sort of misogynist, theocratic barbarians). If you have any real interest in this, find an extended, detailed version of this story with diverse commenting from the populace.


"this type of forced marriage is rooted in local rural traditions" That's all the article has to say. I was unaware that this had to do with Islamic culture, and it would be nice for the article to say so. It would give some context, but I guess that's also why they didn't say that. Because then some people may feel that, "Hey, their Muslims, they do this stuff all the time." That's a possible reason, although I'm not sure how good of a one it is.
Posted 3/15/12
This isn't a matter of 'these days.' This is most of the world, for most of its history. The perspective of this tradition has absolutely zero regard for the rights of the woman as an individual. The woman is property of her family, or her husband's family.

In the perspective of this tradition, the woman loses her long-term value because she is 'disgraced,' being unmarried and no longer a virgin. The judge restored her value from the perspective of the society because now she's married, and won't be a lifelong burden on her family.

This is a very long-standing tradition in the eyes of Arab and Islamic Berber society.

To give some perspective on how long this type of tradition has existed, look at the book of Samuel in the Old Testament section of the Bible. There, Tamar, the daughter of King David, is raped by her half-brother. Marriage between the two is implied more than once as a solution to this 'issue.'

This is reinforced directly in Biblical law in the book of Deuteronomy, which explicitly states (Deut. 22:28) that a man who rapes a virgin is obliged to marry her.

All of this, from the news story quoted, to the tradition behind it, to the Biblical tradition side-reference, are reasons why I am never particularly impressed or thrilled with anyone who suggests that we all return to old-fashioned values.
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Posted 3/15/12

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Some culture's have no respect for women or their God-given freewill.


That's exactly what i thought. And men ARE the law in those cultures
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Posted 3/15/12
That's why I hates most of the men (not all of them) But I feels like the men having more rights than the women...even here in America (probably a bit more better than other countries though).
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Damn that is messed up
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in my oppinion..... rape should be punishable by death.... the law just doesn't do fuck all anymore and im sick of the law system and its uslessness
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