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Post Reply Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky UPDATE
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TheAncientOne wrote: Technically, Kadokawa took it away, and that was because Funimation licensed it from them. If you take a look at a number of the other titles that went away in 2011, the majority of them were Kadokawa titles, licensed by Funimation.

And anyone watching Deadman Wonderland could have seen that it, like all the other Kadokawa titles, had an explicit expiration date.

However, the explicit expiration date seemed to include an option to renew, since it only seemed to get exercised when the series had already been licensed.

Given the difference ~ and given that the expiration date on Glass Maiden (aka Crystal Blaze) came after Section23 had already released the DVD's ... it could be that contracts with other licensors have been in terms of an automatic rollover unless there is notice to the contrary, while the Kadokawa package was in terms of an automatic expiration unless there was notice to the contrary.
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can't u guys not in us use a proxy
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Yay!

Finally we non-American subscribers get more of something.
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Posted 3/24/12
OK....
Not really interested in the series....
BUT I'M DYING TO KNOW WHAT THE FIRST POST IS REALLY SAYING (who gets to see it and who doesn't?)
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Licensing makes no sense. Neither do people in suits.
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Mmmmmm, catgirls. Pre-order placed! Now if somebody would license Omamori Himari........
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Here's an idea, instead of worrying about clamping down on free views of the first season, you all stop slacking off and make another season!!!! >.<
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Hmm, this is aggravating me more than expected. Not that I found the series particularly good, but to have it plucked from the site because I'm not paying the right "entity" anymore is asinine. If it happens much more, I'll pull my support for the business model altogether in that neither CR nor Funi will see more cashflow from me. I watch anime as a hobby--something to relax with--not to participate in business politics and corporate cockfighting. In the end, both the end-user/viewer (probably the creators/artists, as well) gets the short end of the stick, eh?

I guess it doesn't help that I don't buy DVDs and haven't done so (and never will) in many years since internet video and streaming came to be. I don't even like buying Blu-ray discs.
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I like Harem's but this one always struck me as one to wait for the Dub of.... good to see FUNI on the case! when they're not trying to Ruin ADV... I mean Sentai.
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Sad to see it go. Fun, mindless little show. Not worth owning unless they sell if for a buck a DVD, but fun, nicely produced show none-the-less. Kind of wish they had spun off a few of the side characters into their own show. Some good material there.

Hopefully this removal will free up server space for newer shows and free coffee.
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aqtech wrote: Hmm, this is aggravating me more than expected. Not that I found the series particularly good, but to have it plucked from the site because I'm not paying the right "entity" anymore is asinine. If it happens much more, I'll pull my support for the business model altogether in that neither CR nor Funi will see more cashflow from me. ...

Wait ... what? You live in the US or Canada, since you talk about Funi getting cashflow from you ... so you have access on Crunchyroll to every single new series in every single new season.

And you'll stop paying Crunchyroll for access to simulcasts, most of them within a couple of hours of Japanese broadcast, because a number of them are going to get licensed one day and will go off the site ~ a season or two after they ended and have been replaced by newer anime (and, by the looks of things, more of them). Isn't that like renting a car and then complaining that they want the car back?

And what really ticks you off is a series where some other people are going to lose access to the first two episodes?

Huh?


Hairbelly wrote: ... Hopefully this removal will free up server space for newer shows and free coffee.

You buried the lede. You had me at "free coffee".
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Well, I can see a very good reason for this... Funimation is also trying to start their own PAY TO WATCH network on their own website so it's probably trying to prevent Crunchyroll from getting too far ahead of them in Episode count or to give you a taste of the show so you'll go ahead and buy it THROUGH Funimation AND NOT CRUNCHYROLL. It's low and it's sneaky, but it's perfectly legal. NIS America did the same thing with ToraDora and Persona -Trinity Soul- on Crunchyroll and if you wanted to see the rest you had to buy it through NIS.
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arylpremente wrote:
NIS America did the same thing with ToraDora and Persona -Trinity Soul- on Crunchyroll and if you wanted to see the rest you had to buy it through NIS.

Although I do recall Persona -Trinity Soul- having a "sampler" here on CR (which I didn't watch, as I like to finish what I start), I don't recall ToraDora being here except during the time before CR went legit. The only time I recall seeing it online was when ANN offered it for a while, with payment required for each block of episodes to complete the series (and even that is no longer available).

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arylpremente wrote:

Well, I can see a very good reason for this... Funimation is also trying to start their own PAY TO WATCH network on their own website so it's probably trying to prevent Crunchyroll from getting too far ahead of them in Episode count or to give you a taste of the show so you'll go ahead and buy it THROUGH Funimation AND NOT CRUNCHYROLL.


Episodes 1-2 in North America alone and episodes from 3 on in the rest in North America, South America, Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia & Oceania, and mainland Asia except for Japan, Korea and Mongolia ... that's what it says. Hate to break it to people that "Worldwide" includes the US of A.

Which is (1) backwards for a teaser, and (2) only "teasing" the people outside of its market.


It's low and it's sneaky, but it's perfectly legal. NIS America did the same thing with ToraDora and Persona -Trinity Soul- on Crunchyroll and if you wanted to see the rest you had to buy it through NIS.


On the other hand, if the description is mis-stated, and episodes 1&2 ALONE are available in North America and episodes 3 and up are available OUTSIDE of North America, Japan, Korea and Mongolia ...
... that would be a teaser for North America but still make no sense at all outside of North America as a deliberate decision.

Since that part makes no sense as a deliberate decision, I think its more likely just an accidental result of the way the contracts were written, plus something new happening that nobody expected when the contracts were first written.

If that something is some new relationship between Crunchyroll and FUNimation, look for a big announcement this weekend at the con up in Seattle.

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Except for the fact that your comparison is inaccurate and intentionally skewed, that's roughly how I feel about. Call it whatever you'd like, but I won't support that kind of business. I would feel differently if CR simply decided not to reacquire rights, etc. Regardless of the reason, in the end it all depends on how I, as an individual customer, feel about all of this as to whether or not I decide to continue paying.

In this particular case, availability is irrelevant to me (despite the fact that I don't live in the US year-round )--that was simply an assumption on your part. I was referring to the situation in general, at least when my post is taken in context. Whether or not you agree on the general premise is your prerogative.

To correct your analogy, it would be akin to having to return a rental car because someone else made a better offer on it after the fact.
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