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The Difference between America and Japan
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Have you been to Japan? Sure, they pay a lot of taxes but their social welfare system isn't in jeopardy like ours. They have a quality of life that is in my estimation much higher than our average.

The only thing I think we do the same is ignore their homeless. Shinjuku park is a scary reminder of that.
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This tread stinks like generalizations and blanket statements.

I am going to Japan in June, and will make a thread and post the videos and photos from the trip. Stay tuned.
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Standards

That's all you need to know of the difference right there.
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While not true in every case of course, there are two areas people usually make broad generalizations about.

Japan- the senpai/kohai (senior/junior) relationship between people
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US- cherishing the idea of equal status (even if not always followed)


Japan- constant activities and behaviors designed to strengthen the group feeling (control)
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US- stress on the individual as important (freedom)
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The biggest difference between where you are and where you want to be is simple: Fantasy.

You know where you are and that makes it hard to dream of, while where you are not or have not been is an unknown - Which makes it very easy to dream of. You hear about the wonderful things and they magnify your fantasy, but stay there long enough and you'll also see the bad things and you start noticing the good things of where you came from.

PS: Anime is not reality, snap snap!



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i understand what you are trying to say ^_^
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Something tells me from the title, this thread will end with someones feeling being hurt, and a mod banning someone else.
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Kyouma wrote:

we're such a religious run country


Not really.

If that were the case then this country would be a thousand or so more times strict.

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Japan = discipline
US = morals
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AZFox wrote:


Kyouma wrote:

we're such a religious run country


Not really.

If that were the case then this country would be a thousand or so more times strict.



No.

We're a thousand time more divided on the issue.
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underlock wrote:

Japan = discipline
US = morals


I take it that you're not from NY.
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GodWhomIsMike wrote:


underlock wrote:

Japan = discipline
US = morals


I take it that you're not from NY.


The image they try to give the world, not what they do. I'm fully aware that both are highly hypocritical.
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In my opinion I think Japanese people are healthier than America.
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there's hardly anything in common apart from humans living on them xd
america complain to much
america not island
america sterotipeing way to much
america think there the best
america not best for health care
america diffident bugs
america speak English ( slang tbh not English xd ) in it bruv got love my color because that's how u spell colour xd
america not pedo like
america have shit tolerance level
america diffident accent to me sounds like they got the flu 24.7
america diffident eyes
america not cute
america sexy if not fat mostly any race but still sexy or hot


see there diffident in loots ways could go on and on

that's my opinan
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I think I sort of understand where the original post is coming from. I'd have to say that the difference between idols in Japan and America is probably in the foundations of our cultures. Though with the younger generations in Japan, defining that foundation is a problem in and of itself, at least since WWII and the globalization and subsequent influx of American pop-culture.

Either way, the "live your dream" fantasy of America is inextricably ingrained in our society, doctrine, and ideology. We were created as a nation where "everyone could come and be what they want to be while making it rich." We're a bunch of people who's ancestors were oppressed, poor, or downtrodden (or at least unhappily middle-class), with no easy way to break free of the existing social structure that was locking them down (to say nothing of those who were forcibly immigrated, such as slaves). So...our ancestors came to America, because it was an "opportunity" to buck the system. We were founded upon a fantasy that said anyone could make it rich regardless of who you were or where you were from. In fact, it was your "right" to do so. Throw in capitalism and the so-called freedom to do anything you want (including falling flat on your *ss in failure), we became a nation of people who believed that it was not only their right and freedom to achieve their dreams, but if you failed to so, then that was simply your fault. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately depending on how you look at it), the fantasy of America being the "Land of Opportunity" never goes away. It's a part of who we are, for better or worse. Therefore, we all live our daily lives of mediocrity and failing to achieve our dreams, but that small kernel of hope and opportunity never quite disappears; there's always the hope of tomorrow (and of the chance that we can find a way to our dreams while still being able to pay all our bills and taxes). I think that's why our culture tends to idolize people who have the will power, perseverance, power, talent, and/or beauty to excel. Of course, I think we largely resent them and are jealous as well, because it should have been our right to be where they are - hence all the paparazzi and scandal sheets. In an odd way, we feel entitled to excellence and/or idolization because our ideology insists that it is our right to be judged upon our own merits, free of social class and structure, or even appearance (which of course, is completely unrealistic).

Now, as for Japanese Idols and such, I'd be curious as to the value of their status. For example, are they like "boy bands" and pop-stars in America? After their 15 mins of fame, do they disappear, only to return to some reality show as a washed-up celebrity 10 years later? Or do they get more respect than that? In America, it seems that while we may idolize celebrities when they're popular, we also enjoy seeing them fall. I think it probably goes back to the fact that we may idolize them when they make it big, but we also want to be them and feel it's our right to be where they are. There's that kernel of resentment called "if only", which makes us revel in them being "has-beens" and stooping to appear on this reality show or do a concert at that rinky-dink stadium. If I had to guess, I'd say that Japanese Idols differ in that cultural resentment and jealousy, since Japan wasn't founded as a Capitalist Land of Opportunity. Like the original post said, you can want to be an idol, but realistically know that you never will be or will never date one. But in Japan, I suspect that there's less of a cultural sense of entitlement, and therefore, maybe more long-term respect???

Lastly, to all those naysayers who have commented on the fact that anime is not reality, I beg to differ. Yes, they are works of fiction, but all works of art, literary or otherwise, are representations of our dreams and cultural values. A story is popular because something within it resounds with the readers' or viewers' ideals and dreams. We all have a different "reality" based upon our own perspectives, hopes, and dreams; therefore, there is "reality" in a story that is somehow able to connect with people, at least in what it is trying to communicate. Though in consideration of culture, it makes me wonder whether the things that speak to me are the same things that stand out to someone from Japan. I suspect not.

P.S. Thank you to anyone who actually managed to read all my long-winded babble, lol.
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