Are y'all liars, or is something totally messed up here?
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So, I was curious as to whether or not any other site was showing one of my favorite series at the moment (Ano Natsu de Matteru) so I searched around and found it somewhere else... But here's the kicker, it's got episode 11 right now, when Crunchyroll says it will be released in 6 more hours... So, if Crunchyroll releases episodes ONE hour after their release in Japan, how is it possible somewhere else has it SIX hours before (probably sooner than that, this is just when I found it) Crunchyroll? I don't like being lied to. This really makes me want to cancel my membership.
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Posted 3/21/12 , edited 3/21/12
Not all simulcasts are streamed 1h after the Japanese airing, and AFAIK there are no advertisements that say they are all within 1h. I hate the latecasts too, but there's nothing much that can be done about most of them.

If you look at the Winter lineup, 18.1 of Crunchyroll's 22.2 anime simulcasts are within 2 hours of the first Japanese airing.
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"Anime Premium Membership
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Watch 1-Hour after Airing in Japan
iPhone/iPad, Android, and Device Access
No Annoying Ads
HD Quality Videos (up to 1080p)"

No, -technically- it doesn't say ALL, but it also doesn't say some. It just says watch 1-hour after airing. It may be a little presumptuous of me, but that leads me to believe it's all. It's really not that much of a big deal, honestly, but it still feels like I was lied to and that it's false advertisement.
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supercripple wrote:

"Anime Premium Membership
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Watch 1-Hour after Airing in Japan
iPhone/iPad, Android, and Device Access
No Annoying Ads
HD Quality Videos (up to 1080p)"

No, -technically- it doesn't say ALL, but it also doesn't say some. It just says watch 1-hour after airing. It may be a little presumptuous of me, but that leads me to believe it's all. It's really not that much of a big deal, honestly, but it still feels like I was lied to and that it's false advertisement.


Where did you copy that from? The compare plans page says "Anime Simulcast (same-day as Japan television broadcast)", and most simulcasts are within 1 day. Most are within 1-2 hours of airing. Perhaps the page you copied it from needs to be updated.

Also TV in Japan works differently. TV shows air at different times on different days in different parts of the country. If Crunchyroll gets a show through a TV company in Kyoto, and that show airs in Kyoto 1 day after it airs in Tokyo, then Crunchyroll would probably not be able to stream the show until an hour after it airs in Kyoto, which would be 1 day and 1 hour after the first airing. This would still count as 1 hour after airing in Japan, as Crunchyroll does not claim that it does it based on first airing. This rarely happens though.
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supercripple wrote: ... But here's the kicker, it's got episode 11 right now, when Crunchyroll says it will be released in 6 more hours... So, if Crunchyroll releases episodes ONE hour after their release in Japan, ...

First, common sense dictates that if Crunchyroll could promise EVERY series streaming one hour after Japanese PREMIER, they would have said so. So assuming that is what they meant when they said no such thing is being silly.

Indeed, if that is from a web ad underneath a picture of Naruto and/or a picture from Bleach, then its entirely accurate: Naruto and Bleach stream one hour after their broadcast premier in Japan.

Second, olandril is right ~ there is a serious confusion here when it is assumed that there is a particular day and time that something is "broadcast" in Japan. But that's for America with all of our cable stations distributed by satellite and, before then, three, then four, national broadcast networks.

Japan only has one national television networks ~ most of its TV stations are city or regional superstations. So its highly unusual for any series to air at the same time all over Greater Tokyo, let alone all over Japan. For that anime, here's the entry at Anime New Network:
AT-X (2012-01-10)
Chiba TV (2012-01-11)
KBS Kyoto (2012-01-09)
Shin-etsu Broadcasting (2012-01-14)
Sun TV (2012-01-11)
Tokyo MX TV (2012-01-10)
TV Aichi (2012-01-09)
TV Kanagawa (2012-01-12)
TV Saitama (2012-01-12)

So it premiers on TV Aichi and in Kyoto, the next night it is on cable (ATX) and on Tokyo Metro TV (TokyoMX), the night after that it is on ChibaTV east of central Tokyo in Greater Tokyo, SunTV in Kobo in the southern part of the main island, then the next night it is on TV Saitama, south of central Tokyo and southwest of Chiba in Greater Tokyo, and TV Kanagawa in Greater Tokyo wedged between central Tokyo and Tokyo Bay ~ probably its big port cities of Yokohama and Kawasaki are better known names ...

... and then two nights later, it airs on Shin-etsu Broadcasting, in central Honshu centered on Nagano prefecture.

Wednesday morning 2012-01-11, listed as the episode 1 premier member's streaming date at the series page, was definitely after it was broadcast in some parts of Japan, quite possibly an hour or so after it was broadcast in some parts of Japan, and in fact before it was broadcast in some parts of Japan.

It would be a bit weird to deliberately search out Japanese anime and then flip out basically because the Japanese broadcast system works differently than the American one does.
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@olandril I copied that from when you log out and then click "Start my free 14 day trial", it lists those as being the benefits of being a premium member.

@agila61 I understand now that their broadcast system is different than ours, and I admit it was a little foolish of me to assume it's the same and that it could be predicted like clockwork, but when you make a big, bold claim as I quoted above: "Watch 1-hour after airing in Japan" <-- Direct quote. No asterisks, no small print. nothing. That's a lot to live up to and I hardly think I can be faulted too much for expecting them to live up to it.
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supercripple wrote:

@olandril I copied that from when you log out and then click "Start my free 14 day trial", it lists those as being the benefits of being a premium member.

@agila61 I understand now that their broadcast system is different than ours, and I admit it was a little foolish of me to assume it's the same and that it could be predicted like clockwork, but when you make a big, bold claim as I quoted above: "Watch 1-hour after airing in Japan" <-- Direct quote. No asterisks, no small print. nothing. That's a lot to live up to and I hardly think I can be faulted too much for expecting them to live up to it.


I'll see if we can get some 'fine print' put in.
Apologies for any confusion, but yeah it's on a show to show basis. All depends on the contracts we're able to work out with the publishers.
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Alright, thank you all for helping me understand. I feel better now.
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Bjaker wrote: I'll see if we can get some 'fine print' put in.

A bold print way to do it is "Watch Many Series(*) An Hour After ..."

... which feeds into a fine print of:
(* Some series have longer simulcast delays due to licensing limitations or production constraints)


supercripple wrote:
... but when you make a big, bold claim as I quoted above: "Watch 1-hour after airing in Japan" <-- Direct quote. No asterisks, no small print. nothing. That's a lot to live up to and I hardly think I can be faulted too much for expecting them to live up to it.

Like I suggested, the only times I've seen that boilerplate, it was under a picture of Naruto, and for Naruto its 100% true.

I know that they don't hit that for all series ~ for one thing, sometimes when Crunchyroll can't get the direct streaming rights, they sublicense from another streaming site, and that other site streams with a longer delay, or that site wants an exclusive week to itself first ...
... but for the one you mentioned, while its not within 1-hour of the premier airing, it seems highly likely that its close to 1-hour of one of the airings for some part of Japan.
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If you look at the Winter lineup, 18.1 of Crunchyroll's 22.2 anime simulcasts are within 2 hours of the first Japanese airing.
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