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Philosophy: The Existence of God
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If God didn't exist, we would invent him. See the circular logic there?
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RapeMonster wrote:

God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived
It is greater to exist and be conceived than to merely be conceived
Therefore God exist



Ok, I helped you by trimming it down.
I don't want to be mean or anything, but Philosophy is the understanding and reasoned attempt to search for knowledge. In this process you must make claims, and somewhere along the way your claims must support your conclusion- or bring other discussion into something pre-existing.

So what you posted...
Claim 1:God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived
Claim 2: It is greater to exist and be conceived than to merely be conceived

Conclusion: Therefore God exist

What? Sorry, that literally just makes no sense at all.

The question posed by the thread however is a long standing philosophical debate and there are tons of different views on how to interpret God. In the end though, most of the philosophical debates simply use God as a "stand-in" kind of variable. Mainly because when talking about "God" morality comes into issue, and when 2 different parties cannot agree on something that cannot be proven
(i.e: God is real so everything he does is "just", a common stance by those who stick to their religion, the debate cannot progress when what you are arguing about is not the same thing.) -> Default to, what is morality and how is it determined.

You won't get much of anywhere on a forums though, there are not many philosophy majors anymore :(
Most you'll get is personal opinion/subjective though! D:
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You know I don't really believe in God, but I'm afraid to say it out loud, because I'm a little into the superstition things.

I don't think God is real, yet I want God to be real. I don't think God really exists, but I'm afraid that If I was to say "God does not exists out loud" bad thing will happen to me or those around me.

Posted 4/1/12
Science Perspective: The earth was made right when the "BIGBANG" happened, it took millions and billions of years to create. What i'm trying to say is that there were different stages like the Dinosaur age, Ice Age, Miocene Age, etc... The earth evolve in a slower pace in the science perspective.

God Believer Perspective(i'm Christian :D) : God made the Earth in just 6 DAYS! 7th day, he rested from all his hard work to create this wonderful world and universe!
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"Science Perspective: The earth was made right when the "BIGBANG" happened"

Nope, the Earth (and all planets really) were created by smashing bits of junk together, lots of space rock crashing into each other in space making KABOOM sounds (except without the sounds as there wasn't any), the power of the crashing into things caused the bits inside the Earth to become as hot as the surface of the Sun (it's really quite warm down there, some may say Hellishly so....) and the rotation causing the eventual shape. It took a long time for the Earth to be created (a bit more than 6 days). Eventually stuff happened and the Earth got life.

The Universe was created about 12-14 billion years ago, Earth only 4 1/2, life (simple life) appeared about a billion years after Earth was formed.
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^Very easy explanation for those who don't know the conceptual/mathematical realities of it all, so bravo! xD

For everyone, keep in mind, the thread was based on philosophy, not science. I do think that clarification needs to be made as the only type of "physics" that has really any relation to knowledge/virtue/human thought is metaphysics... Although, if you know anything about metaphysics, you'd know physics is just in the name, and it's more about the pondering of creation/cosmos etc.
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No...God still doesn't exist. People may disagree but I don't think he does
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kyo7763 wrote:

So what you posted...
Claim 1:God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived
Claim 2: It is greater to exist and be conceived than to merely be conceived

Conclusion: Therefore God exist

What? Sorry, that literally just makes no sense at all.





Here's what OP and I have managed to conclude so far.
Maybe this will help clarify the question.

Also, I'm kind of surprised by how many people have decided to step away from the originally intended topic, as OP specifically asked for people to refute the argument that they presented, not present additional perspectives on the general issue that this argument tries to answer. Maybe we could try to get back on track, here?
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kyletkd wrote:

Well being Catholic I believe in the existence of God. I have to say that most people do give a sideways glance when you tell them this.


I usually do that because most of you are oblivious of the fact that your religion used to burn intelligent women in the past.


don't forget about people that could swim, anyone that believed in science(galileo is a good example), or anyone that didn't follow the church(like muslims and pagans), or people they just thought deserved it(the spanish inquisition comes to mind).
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What I interpreted from OP:

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Are you from Funnyjunk?
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We believe, what we want, to believe. The only truth we know is that we have the power to question everything.
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When you see a little kid playing with an imaginary friend, as the child grows you should get a bit worried.
When you see a little kid playing with an imaginary friend called God on which he puts the blame and clings to for support,
you should get a bit worried, especially when the person is no longer a kid.


side note: wonder if anyone takes Chuck Norris jokes seriously.
Posted 4/1/12
I chuckled and couldn't understand your cute 14 year old female logic. But in case it was deep and I overlooked something I shall read it again.
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