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DeathKing97 wrote:

No love for Phi Brain season 2?


Phi Brain season 2 will most likely be on Hulu as well, so it is just a waste of a simulcast.
I watch Phi-Brain on Hulu so I'll stick to Hulu even if it is on CR.
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Phi Brain season 2 will most likely be on Hulu as well, so it is just a waste of a simulcast.
I watch Phi-Brain on Hulu so I'll stick to Hulu even if it is on CR.


I get that it's not a unique pickup, but I don't consider it a waste. No ads if premium, and a far better player than Hulu (video quality, speed (buffering) and navigating), I'm glad CR will have it.
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Kurokos Basketball looks interesting, so I will be checking it out. I'm a fan of basketball, so I'm hoping it turns out to be an enjoyable series.

I was originally planning on watching Phi Brain on hulu, but since its now on CR I might go ahead and watch it here instead.
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will u guys immediately put in all the episodes of season 1 or just do it on a weekly basis?
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So so happy that Phi-Brain is here at Crunchyroll! The player here works so much better and I loved season 1. Can't wait!
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hoping with all my heart u get Eureka 7 AO too
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PhoenixBlaze wrote:

Phi Brain season 2 will most likely be on Hulu as well, so it is just a waste of a simulcast.
I watch Phi-Brain on Hulu so I'll stick to Hulu even if it is on CR.


I get that it's not a unique pickup, but I don't consider it a waste. No ads if premium, and a far better player than Hulu (video quality, speed (buffering) and navigating), I'm glad CR will have it.


Definitely not. Hulu's video player is far better than Crunchyroll's. I have watched Inuyasha like 150~ episodes on Hulu without it once giving me an error or freezing. Each Crunchyroll video I play freezes multiple times during a video regardless of quality. Crunchyroll getting any show is good, but don't lie for their video player.

Video Quality: Crunchyroll > Hulu
Speed (Buffering): Hulu > Crunchyroll
Navigation: Crunchyroll > Hulu

However, in terms of viewing pleasure Speed (Buffering) is what overall determines the best video player. Unless you live super close or in California near their streaming servers Hulu is the definite winner. I just don't like Hulu because I agree their anime selection and navigation aren't that great.
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please try to get Eureka AO and maiden amnesia!! please! i don't want my membership to be wasted now that most of the good shows are over.
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Definitely not. Hulu's video player is far better than Crunchyroll's. I have watched Inuyasha like 150~ episodes on Hulu without it once giving me an error or freezing. Each Crunchyroll video I play freezes multiple times during a video regardless of quality. Crunchyroll getting any show is good, but don't lie for their video player.

Video Quality: Crunchyroll > Hulu
Speed (Buffering): Hulu > Crunchyroll
Navigation: Crunchyroll > Hulu

However, in terms of viewing pleasure Speed (Buffering) is what overall determines the best video player. Unless you live super close or in California near their streaming servers Hulu is the definite winner. I just don't like Hulu because I agree their anime selection and navigation aren't that great.


First, check your use of lie. Not many people will take kindly to that. I don't. A difference in opinion is not being dishonest.

Second, now who's targeting. (This comes from a comment you made on another thread.)

Third, to the issue at hand. Video quality of CR over Hulu isn't even funny even at similar rates. Comparing Hulu 360p to SD on CR isn't even close--Hulu smears, obviously skips frames, has jagged animation on motion. My guess is also their compression is optimized for real life shots/live action, not animation; linework on CR looks nice, while on Hulu it looks jagged at times especially during motion. Color on Hulu seems to pop more though, I'll give it that.

Speed of buffering isn't even funny. Watching the premiere of Zetman on Hulu, buffering on every navigation move took 3-5 seconds during prime time (around 10pm). Miss a subtitle? Find the mouse, find the timeline, try to pick the spot accurately, wait for the buffer, oh, wait, the bloody "preview" pic on the timeline is over the video, do it again, oops, went back to far, now watching 20 seconds when I wanted to see the last 5 seconds. CR's buffer is 3-4 seconds to do the initial video load and then a consistent 1-2 seconds on navigation moves for every show I've played unless there's some server problem going on (which is obvious at the time it's happening). On peak times in the evening, maybe 5-8 seconds at the start of a fresh load, but Hulu also goes up considerably too. I'm on the east coast. Buffering time for CR is hands down faster and quicker than Hulu. CR does freeze, but the vast majority of the time, you navigate back 10 seconds, it unfreezes. Unless older anime is exempt, compare that to watching ads (since you a premium member too) on Hulu for every episode, you're talking 1-2 minutes for ads per episode plus interruptions mid-episode versus maybe a 10 second page reload to get the video back on CR. I'll take CR any day.

There are no plus or minus 10 second jumps on Hulu that I could find (but I could be wrong on this and overlooked something). if you missed a subtitle or wanted to do a quick replay or adjust position because you were off after a general navigation jump, CR has it with the left or right arrow keys. When you account for buffering times when you select the timeline to jump to a spot in the show, CR is considerably faster, Hulu rebuffers fresh like it's a new video load _every time_ unless you're within the buffer gap; by the time you mouse to the timeline, it's usually discarded already. Even Youtube doesn't do it this way. Hulu also keys to spots on the timeline, so if what you're trying to replay is before an ad gap, sometimes it'll replay ads too right after you just watched ads (incredibly aggravating, though this "feature" has been somewhat fixed), wasting more time and a bigger delay. To me, that's far worse than a freeze.

I'm on circa 2001-2002 machine I built myself, with the mere system requirement of memory and a hard drive that's about to die (the bearings so fubar'd I flip it the hard drive to another side and knock it to the tabletop once to break up the polymerized spindle to start the machine up if I shut it down for any length of time). Any disk hit is slagged to heck due to fragmentation. The CPU speed is equivalent to an old netbook but with less memory and crappier drive access. Yet, I don't have video freezes near anywhere you seem to with CR. I've watched CR and Hulu with IE, Opera, and Chrome with this machine all with similar results. I would dare say there's something up with your configuration (machine, network settings, network setup/ports, ISP).

I have been in the past and remain critical of CR's player--it has unresolved bugs and UI issues. But compared to Hulu's for using and viewing, it's hands down better by a long stretch. I suppose we'll have to agree we disagree, again.
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Posted 4/5/12

PhoenixBlaze wrote:


DeathKing97 wrote:

No love for Phi Brain season 2?


Phi Brain season 2 will most likely be on Hulu as well, so it is just a waste of a simulcast.
I watch Phi-Brain on Hulu so I'll stick to Hulu even if it is on CR.


I guess I'll have to repeat something that agila61 keeps having to say: Crunchyroll bids on everything. Likely Sentai offered them both seasons of Phi Brain as a sublicense because A.) it brings the series more exposure(and let's face it, watching it in 1080p on Crunchyroll(if you are a premium member) sure beats the heck out of watching it in 480p on Hulu or 720p if you subscribe to Hulu+. Also no ads for premium members), and B.) Crunchyroll paying some sort of MG(Minimium Guarantee) helps Sentai towards paying their own MG towards Sunrise. So basically, Crunchyroll takes what it can get, and this is one of the ones they got. And them getting this has no negative effects towards getting other series.

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Posted 4/5/12 , edited 4/5/12

PhoenixBlaze wrote:
Phi Brain season 2 will most likely be on Hulu as well, so it is just a waste of a simulcast.
I watch Phi-Brain on Hulu so I'll stick to Hulu even if it is on CR.

I expect people in Canada would strongly disagree with you.

Also, it can't really be a "waste" of a simulcast as it isn't as if CR displaced something else to get it.

Personally, with TAN, CR, and Hulu offering the series, Hulu would be the last place I would watch it. When I can view it in 720p at either TAN or CR with no ads, why would I bother with 480p with ads? Even with my membership at TAN, I will still be viewing it at CR when I get around to it (TAN's player gives me some issues with any scenes with a lot of motion; I think they set their maximum bitrate too high above their average).




Khaltazar wrote:
Definitely not. Hulu's video player is far better than Crunchyroll's. I have watched Inuyasha like 150~ episodes on Hulu without it once giving me an error or freezing. Each Crunchyroll video I play freezes multiple times during a video regardless of quality. Crunchyroll getting any show is good, but don't lie for their video player.

Video Quality: Crunchyroll > Hulu
Speed (Buffering): Hulu > Crunchyroll
Navigation: Crunchyroll > Hulu

However, in terms of viewing pleasure Speed (Buffering) is what overall determines the best video player. Unless you live super close or in California near their streaming servers Hulu is the definite winner. I just don't like Hulu because I agree their anime selection and navigation aren't that great.

I rarely have problems with CR's player, but due to my work schedule most of my viewing is late at night or during the day.

I'm nowhere near California, and AFAIK, their nearest CDN servers are hundreds of miles away in either direction (or at least they were when they were using Limelight, which I'm not certain they still are).




rivencontrol wrote:

C'MON, let that last one be Hyouka!

Hyouka is the next to last anime to start this season, and doesn't start until April 22, so don't expect it to be announced soon. There is little benefit to CR in announcing a series over 2 weeks before it begins.

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Had an feeling that they would get this anime, Good job, Crunchy.
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Kuroko's Basketball, yes! THanks CR.

Phi Brain 2, really? Didn't expect that given Sentai licenced it. Nice unexpected news. Wish VIZ would let CR stream shows it's licenced too...
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2 more boxes added.
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Zhemos88 wrote:

2 more boxes added.


I'm guessing one of them will be Vanguard Season 2.
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