Is there any way to fully load a video before watching?
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As the title says, I have noticed Crunchy doesn't work like other video streaming sites such as Youtube. In Youtube, it doesn't really matter if your connection sucks because you can choose to leave a video to fully load while you go to the bathroom or get some food. When you come sit back down on the PC, the video is fully loaded and ready to watch, skip forward or rewind to your pleasure. The way Crunchyroll videos load resembles LIVE streaming sites such as Twitch TV or Justin TV which are mainly used to watch LIVE events in which the content that matters is the content streamed in the instant, as no one wants to rewind and going forward is impossible because it hasn't happened yet.

I don't know if this is something intended in this site, or if it is just some configuration that I need to change in my browser or the Flash Player plugin. It is really bothersome because, for example, if I can't read a subtitle fast enough and say, I want to quickly rewind to be able to read it. If I click the slider a few seconds back, there is a considerable delay before the animation can resume playing. It is as if my computer immediately deletes the stored portion of the video that I was just viewing 3 seconds ago, and it buffers only 2 seconds of the video at a time. This is even more true for 1080p videos. My connection is pretty good, I can download stuff at 1 Megabyte per second most of the time, so it is not like I can't watch at all, but it still bothers. If I have momentary lag in the connection, the video stutters for a few frames and then continues as normal. I have consulted with the friend that recommended this website to me and he says he has always had the same problem and he just learned to live with it.

So then, I don't really like to live with a status quo that bugs the heck out of me, and therefore open this thread in the hopes that I can find a solution. My main questions are the following:

-Is there a way to fully load a video and be able to fast forward, rewind, etc. INSTANTLY in Crunchyroll? If so, how?

-If not, why has the site chosen to adopt this kind of streaming method, instead of a better method like Youtube's? Are there plans to improve to this method in the future? Remember that this method would enable tons of users with slower internet connections to watch HD videos by only opening the video, pausing it, waiting for it to load, and happily watching it later.
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They really need to make this change for the video player!
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MCast92 wrote:

-If not, why has the site chosen to adopt this kind of streaming method, instead of a better method like Youtube's? Are there plans to improve to this method in the future? Remember that this method would enable tons of users with slower internet connections to watch HD videos by only opening the video, pausing it, waiting for it to load, and happily watching it later.


The reason for this is because it's more "secure." It's harder for people to rip streams for illegal use (such as ripping groups like Horriblesubs). Even though it appears that it does nothing whatsoever to stop groups from using Crunchyroll content in that way, CR came to an agreement with the various people who they license their shows from to do this, and would possibly lose a lot of series if they were to adopt a more friendly streaming style again.

It didn't use to always be like this, there was a time when those of us on slower connections could actually enjoy the high definition content here, but sadly it's something that they had to do.
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Oh, alright. It makes complete sense. I would have to disagree with the excuse of it being more "secure". At any rate, I do understand if the licencers insisted on Crunchy adopting this streaming method. It should, at the very least, buffer a little bit more, just so that the connection doesn't need to be 100% jitterless and perfect the whole half-hour of the videos.

Thank you for your response.
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MCast92 wrote: Oh, alright. It makes complete sense. I would have to disagree with the excuse of it being more "secure". At any rate, I do understand if the licencers insisted on Crunchy adopting this streaming method. It should, at the very least, buffer a little bit more, just so that the connection doesn't need to be 100% jitterless and perfect the whole half-hour of the videos.

Thank you for your response.

Its not extremely secure, but rtmp is more secure than http ~ with http streaming you can just open your browsers temp directory, sort by time modified, and the most recent big video file is your stream, which you can copy and rename. So its literally possibly to rip a standard http stream with nothing but Windows File Explorer ~ or equivalent.

Last summer, there were hints that Crunchyroll was working on getting DLNA certification, which would allow people with DLNA file storage and a DLNA player to buffer. Its no surprise that the process takes a while, since its a combination of both technical and legal challenges to get that set up, but that seems like the best hope for something that Japanese licensors might be willing to go with. Sony is one of the hardware companies behind DLNA, and Animax probably gives Sony a bit of clout with anime makers.
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