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Eureka Seven: AO (Astral Ocean)
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Posted 6/1/12

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I gave up watching anime on Funimations site back when Last Exile 2 was still airing in Japan. Youre lucky if you can get the site to load the video at all.

If you're trying with Firefox, it is rather much a hopeless cause, and something they don't intend to fix until a major upgrade of the site promised for sometime in the "near future".

They report Chrome is the best to use, but since I don't want to install another web browser just for one site, I use IE for their website. It is workable, but I sometimes find I can play one video, but then have to close IE and re-open it to play another. I've recently found I can sometimes avoid this if each time I open a video I do it in a new tab, and then close it when it has finished playing. Add this to the overall sluggishness of moving about their website (another item they have promised to address in the major site update) and it doesn't make them very friendly.

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Chrome is the best, I use it, however, FUNimation's site is just crap.

It is actually sad how terrible their site. All the illegal sites are much smoother and accurate making it all the harder to believe that they would allow this to happen. Any news on when this supposed site update is to occur?
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Episode 8

Looks like Ao's pissed off that his friend got taken away. I don't blame him that especially since that freak of nature took on the entire base by himself and caused all that trouble.

Here's the secret of this episode:



It is also nice to see a little into Fleur's past in this episode and see the hate that she has for


Overall, I gotta admit that the teamwork and chemistry between Fleur and Ao was cute to watch this time around. That is all.





Yep this episode marks the birth a of personal relationship between Fleur and Ao, now the question for them is weather it'll grow or not
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Posted 6/3/12
Is it just me or do the characters in AO not feel as lively and realistic as those in its predecessor?
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Posted 6/5/12
Any thoughts or opinions on how Ao's relationship with Renton and Eureka will develop when he is reunited/meets them again?
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Any thoughts or opinions on how Ao's relationship with Renton and Eureka will develop when he is reunited/meets them again?


Well hard to say right now since Ao hasn't seen his mother in years and his first reactions if they reunite would be mixed with shock, rejoice, and happiness although also with confusion. If I were in his shoes, I'd have many questions that needed answers of the events that happened years ago. He is ostracized by the villagers and Eureka's former comrades in Team Pied Piper in the hope of finding her to answer his questions.

I would say that he would definitely be happy to see his mother again though if that's one reaction that comes to my mind.
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Izual wrote:

Any thoughts or opinions on how Ao's relationship with Renton and Eureka will develop when he is reunited/meets them again?


Well hard to say right now since Ao hasn't seen his mother in years and his first reactions if they reunite would be mixed with shock, rejoice, and happiness although also with confusion. If I were in his shoes, I'd have many questions that needed answers of the events that happened years ago. He is ostracized by the villagers and Eureka's former comrades in Team Pied Piper in the hope of finding her to answer his questions.

I would say that he would definitely be happy to see his mother again though if that's one reaction that comes to my mind.


I was thinking something along the lines of anger would be in there somewhere.

Saying Eureka was a member of Pied Piper is a stretch. All we know is that she might have been part of a young Generation Bleu or at least the forerunners for the modern Generation Bleu. Of course all that is taken at the face value of her attire when she feel from the sky. His relationship with Renton is the more interesting to me at the moment. Although he may feel some sympathy for Eureka due to the rumors that she was taken by the Americans and the fact she similarly suffered the harassment of the xenophobic islanders.
Ao has already said he hates his father. He is definitely having similar thoughts towards Renton that Renton had toward Adroc. At heart I really do believe Ao would simply break down forgetting about much of his anger. Ao from my understanding is lonely more than anything else.
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Posted 6/8/12
Episode 9

Some fan-service in this one with the pool ^_^

It also looks like Truth returns in a violent way:



Here's the secret of the episode:



It also looks like next episode debuts a powerful Secret. Also judging by the ending, I'm seeing another antagonist of the series. Can't wait to see what's next.
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Posted 6/8/12
If this is Truth's plan then consider myself disappointed.

Just senseless destruction all over again. Now suddenly that Japanese officer is going to ally with Truth to destroy Japan. This also sets in stone that Japan isn't all that much more powerful than The United Okinawan Archipelago. The Americans are obviously part of the Allied power, but who else? I'm guessing the French and other actual nations like the British given the path AO seems to be following.
Truth is the only named antagonist and the primary foe at that for AO, though. I'm presuming these two aside that the only other antagonist we have seen was that Tanaka guy from the Allied Forces. I've my suspicions that Truth is the leader of the Secrets as well and he is collecting Quartz for some reason.
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Posted 6/15/12
Unfortunately there will be no Astral Ocean episode this week.
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OK so I've just started watching this last week and here's what I think so far:

1. Ao definitely has Eurekas skin and eyes but has renton's face and a somewhat similar hairdo(I think they didn't do it exactly the same cos they wanted to have a slightly different appearance then rentons imo)

2. Naru is most likely Holland and Talho's daughter(I'm guessing from blue eyes from Holland, Face and hair of Talho + the need for skimpy clothing) she is also taller than Ao possibly hinting that she may be slightly older but this is just a guess but it makes sense considering the possibility of her being Holland's daughter right.

3. I'm sure in the very much later episodes after a fair amount of development and certain back stories of the current cast, it will be time for us to meet and find out what happened to Gekkostate and its former crew.

4. The world seems to have changed a lot in terms of certain technology, politics, ecology, I have no idea why its so drastically different though and so close to our worlds when the original series seemed so much more alien and unique to me. Could the world have changed this much in a span of 13-15 years??? If someone could help me with some thoughts on this one I would be very interested in some theories of this

5. I dunno if I haven't been able to connect with the characters yet but they seem to lack something that the original ones had, I don't know what it is but even bad guys like Dewey had that special aura about them. The characters just seemed so much easier to like in the original but maybe I need to give the series more time and see what the outcome is.

6. I hope this is definitely a direct sequel to Eureka 7 and not some parallel universe kind of thing because then I will be extremely disappointed seeing as how the Scubs were able to move across to separate universes in the last one and if the current series is based on a different level altogether but I'm hoping for best.

these are just my personal opinions and observations, I'd love to hear what the others are thinking
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Naru isn't Holland and Talho's daughter since you see her family.

Just as a precaution, I have to ask, "Did you watch the first Eureka Seven?"


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Frankly, as I've mentioned previously, BONES has left us hanging thus far. We've no idea whatsoever about the changes that have occurred to the world. True, the original cast were much more fleshed out, however, that in part may have to do with the absence of the original screenwriter, Dai Sato and the fact Astral Ocean will only as long as the first half of its predecessor. Dewey was a well designed character in both his appearance and his personality. He is one of the most interesting antagonists I've discovered simply because of his personality alone and his peculiar motivations.
According to BONES both the Astral Ocean anime and manga are sequels following the plot left by the anime. We have already seen parallel universes in the form of the manga adaptation by Jinsei, the novels by Sugihara, and the flop that was the Eureka Seven movie. I doubt BONES would try that approach again given how both the novels and manga were not received anywhere near as highly as the anime including their own failure with the animated film.

Considering we've also seen this parallel universe mix in one of BONES other popular animated films, Fullmetal Alchemist: Conqueror of Shamballa, it is very unlikely to happen again. I personally believe BONES has more integrity than to do something repeatedly in that fashion. It would make no sense to change the setting so drastically either, since we've no idea what that other universe was. It could simply have been a wormhole between universes or something so that wouldn't necessarily make it a parallel universe. The whole departure of the Scub Coral from the Earth would be pointless if the setting wasn't even going to be there any longer. As for my own thoughts, I could prattle on for ages, so if you want something more specific, feel free to ask.
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Lol yes, I have definitley watched and enjoyed Eureka 7 very much. Twice infact.

Ok but if we were watching the end of the original Eureka 7, it seems that the 3 kids are with Axel Thurston in Bell Forest and things havnt really changed much if you look in the background, everything was the same and that was one year later. I'm actually just very amazed at the increase in development in the world but maybe that wasnt really shown to us in the original Eureka 7 plus they obviously would want to give a better looking series to us in 2012 so I am working on that fact as well.

The Naru concept was just a personal opinion and observation but I hope its like that cos it kind of makes for a nice twist of fate thing going. I showed my bro the intro to the new series and he was like "is that Talho's kid?" so its a pretty strong hint at the least. It was just speculation
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Anyways some of your own thoughts would be quite interesting to hear so dont mind if you have some good concepts to share with me.

Posted 6/21/12
i really liked the show until Naru went with the bad guy it pissed me off just wait later on AO gonna need to save her i hope he doesnt she hell pissed me off but other than that its a great show
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Lol yes, I have definitley watched and enjoyed Eureka 7 very much. Twice infact.

Ok but if we were watching the end of the original Eureka 7, it seems that the 3 kids are with Axel Thurston in Bell Forest and things havnt really changed much if you look in the background, everything was the same and that was one year later. I'm actually just very amazed at the increase in development in the world but maybe that wasnt really shown to us in the original Eureka 7 plus they obviously would want to give a better looking series to us in 2012 so I am working on that fact as well.

The Naru concept was just a personal opinion and observation but I hope its like that cos it kind of makes for a nice twist of fate thing going. I showed my bro the intro to the new series and he was like "is that Talho's kid?" so its a pretty strong hint at the least. It was just speculation
from my part.

Anyways some of your own thoughts would be quite interesting to hear so dont mind if you have some good concepts to share with me.



I see.

Well, first I suppose I should start with saying I've seen Kōkyōshihen Eureka SeveN about 30 times. Part of my own analysis of AO is that is based on a combination of both Wish Upon a Star (episode 50) and New Order. (episode 51) It cannot be a prequel to its predecessor simply for the fact Eureka's existence and most certainly Ao's are completely out of the question. I originally formed a timeline where there was an estimated 17 years between the two, however, with each new episode of AO I've come to doubt my theory vigorously. Although the dates themselves match up without a sweat, the events that have been said to occur in AO could not reasonably develop within that time frame.
Recently another theory in addition to all the crazy parallel universes theories has popped up. Belief that AO takes places 2,025 years after Kōkyōshihen is simply not plausible. Although, Eureka could possibly live that long, Renton would not hence preventing the existence of Ao. Ao's design alone strongly supports that his facial structure was based on Renton's. I cannot see Eureka finding another lover to breed with, either. Living the timeline in shambles as a result of our inability to speculate a plausible solution.

I've already expressed my discontent towards time travel theories, as well. I'd not forgotten about the epilogue which was a plot contingency, in my opinion. Bell Forest did still exist, however, when you compare the Earth being revealed below the Scub Coral in Kōkyōshihen to the Earth in AO they are considerably different. This is the result of the passage of time and humanity's recolonization of the Earth. Various governments and people have taken up residence across the planet in AO something we never had the time to see in the previous Eureka Seven.
This brings us back to the fact that AO must take place many more years that anticipated. Either that, or there is some witty explanation BONES has devised to explain these mysteries which were undoubtedly intended. The production values for AO are much higher than Kōkyōshihen and they've had to re-imagine the world to a degree, but it is still has a familiar atmosphere...somewhat.

The antagonist, Truth has a very curious name. His namesake very well may be the key to unraveling the mysteries surrounding the series. However, his motivations seem both simple yet he is a bigger enigma than Eureka, currently. He is a curious character and one that'll baffle you at every corner. As a whole, the world just fills smaller due to those constraints of being a half-year series compared to its year-long predecessor.
In the end, all we can do is wait and see. I look forward to discovering what those mysteries are, but it does have me angsting about the direction AO may be taking. Although I do enjoy the deviation, some things just feel a little forced and unnatural in term of the development of the characters compared to its predecessor. Ao's development feels a little too rushed for my tastes. Furthermore I'm not seeing a strong emphasize of development for the rest of the cast.
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