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Why is it important that "Anime" is a product of Japan?
Posted 4/19/12
What dilutes the authentication of something out of Japan of it's status of "anime" Just because it's not made in Japan? Or it's not made by a Japanese person?

Anime is not a specific term, it is a general and including term of all animation. Why must we take and distort this word's focus because we are such fans of "anime" that it HAS to be different?

Look at early Japanese animations and you will see they're not much different than "cartoons" Do those look like "anime" to you? Yet they are "anime" in Japan.

Even using it to differentiate the style of the animation is incorrect.

Japanese kid sees a "cartoon", he's watching anime.

An American (or otherwise) kid sees an "anime", he's watching an "anime" and not a "cartoon"

When you break it all down to the core, it really doesn't matter which is which. I use to think so, but I grew out of that.

I tend to like Japanese cartoons more, but western anime isn't too bad.

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Posted 4/19/12
I personally don't think it matters either way if it's called 'anime' or 'cartoons', I think it's just people recognize the style of animation used in Japanese cartoons (big eyes, hair, body proportions) the most and lump it all under one category. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't anime originally used to substitute live action western films because Japan couldn't afford to make them?
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Posted 4/19/12
plenty of koreans do the actual work of making an anime >.> but they live in japan so i dono
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Posted 4/19/12 , edited 4/19/12
People get way too caught up in terminology and technicalities. I think a lot of that is just an attempt to feel smarter or special. To show that they love anime more than other fans or non-fans.

They are Japanese cartoons, and that's OK. It's not like something being "anime" automatically makes it superior to a "cartoon" anyway. I think that's the connotation and it couldn't be more wrong. Not all cartoons are mindless child-oriented pap and not all anime is brilliant emotionally mature <Insert Prestigious Award Here> material.
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Posted 4/19/12
Japanese kids actually call it anime, there is no person in Japan that call it cartoon. Because if you know, "cartoon" is an American word so, people in Japan actually call it anime. And I think there is no difference between "cartoon" and "anime". It's just that they have different showing with anime compared to cartoon. Like plotwise, cartoon does daily things like spongebob which is freaking annoying don't watch it. But anime it follows a story now, don't get me wrong some cartoon actually have a story I'm just saying they are not the same as how they tell the story of it. Some minor things, like art style and language.

In all fairness, I consider any animated show that has english voices a cartoon regardless if they are made from Japan unless the language of the show was Japanese and it was dubbed. That's just my opinion about and I know it is not clear but it is hard to depict because it matters on the person.
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Posted 4/19/12
I don't really mind who produces it. I see many Vietnamese names in ending credits of some anime produced on CR and don't doubt China wants to enter field also (besides doing illegal bootlegs). Disney could do it but Disney (Buena Vista) wants too much money for any of their stuff. That's why I opt toward Land of the Rising Sun instead. Good subject matter, different "take" on a topic.
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Posted 4/19/12
I think this arguement is only had by otaku and kids/adults who still call foriegners gaijin (as an insulting term). it's them acting uppity because it comes from japan and only cartoons from japan should be called anime, everything else should be labeled cartoons.

in otherwords they are being pretentious.
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Posted 4/19/12
Anime is a japanese word.
You should use the japanese word, anime, for japanese animations.
Why would you call a western cartoon anime when it isn't japanese?
The same thing goes for why you don't call anime cartoons but people who don't know what anime is say they are just cartoons.
Posted 4/19/12
I think that anime in general is different because of the way it's perceived.
Here in america if something is animated the response from the general public is "oh that's for children".
Even the more adult cartoons are still pretty stupid and pointless because it's hard to market animation as a "serious" medium in america.
America could never produce an Elfen Lied or a Ghost in the Shell, mostly because our free-market won't allow it.
However, in japan animation is seen as an equal medium to live-action and thus has a much larger audience.
As far as the wording goes, there's no point in arguing semantics.
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Posted 4/19/12
It's another problem of when a foreign word means something generic/umbrella but then English will butcher/shift/change it to meaning something specific. "Anime" is Japanese for "animation" overall the same way that "manga" is Japanese for "comics" overall.
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Posted 4/19/12

Thepoorfool wrote:
For example we would not have been the first nation to invent the (Nuclear bomb) or (Atom bomb) if we had not taken certain German scientists prisner in World War Two if not for us capturing these German scientist we could have been Nuked by the Germans and we would have lost World War Two effectively ending our nation,...

Apparently our education system hasn't done you any favors as you seem to be confusing the U.S. space program with the Manhattan Project.

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Posted 4/19/12
I agree with you fully. My opinion about the difference is mostly the content.
Most cartoons are childish and episode by episode. There are a lot of anime that are that way too, however, there are many great anime with serious storys and real feeling imbued into them. I tend to lean twards the story drivin series as thats what i want out of it a wonderful story ontop of some delightful artwork. I greatly enjoy the pixar and dreamworks CG movies because they have a fully story too them and arn't so stupidly simply. If they created more cartoons with real feeling in them and sad/tragic/epic stories, that you wouldent want your 5 year old to watch, I would be absolutely DELIGHTED to watch them.
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Posted 4/19/12
It matter because that's what anime is. I think people get upset about not calling cartoons anime because they have attach a negative connotation the word cartoon and feel that labeling a good cartoon as a cartoon is somehow an insult, thus any good cartoon should be called anime.
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Posted 4/19/12

SoulKanon wrote:

Anime is a japanese word.
You should use the japanese word, anime, for japanese animations.
Why would you call a western cartoon anime when it isn't japanese?
The same thing goes for why you don't call anime cartoons but people who don't know what anime is say they are just cartoons.


Anime, as used in Japanese, is a shortening of the word "animation" and, consequently, refers to any and all types of animated materials.
This is confirmed by "cartoon" and "animation" being used as the English counterpart to "anime" in the Berlitz Japanese-English Compact Dictionary and the Random House Webster's Japanese-English Pocket Dictionary, respectively. Wikipedia corroborates this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime#Word_usage, but also points out that "anime" and "cartoon" are generally considered distinct in Western cultures (particularly in the use of "anime" in English).

I honestly don't plan on picking sides, but I will suggest that you take more care in continuing this discussion, because the above argument doesn't really work too well.
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