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Haha I love Chinese nationalists. They're all so funny.

However, this is nothing new. Chinese people have always done fucked up things so this doesn't surprise me at all. Also outsourcing is generally going more to Hong Kong and Macao than anywhere else if I'm right. Those areas are not subject to communistic ideals so I wouldn't say it's necessarily proof enough of a capitalistic shifting society.

Has anyone read Collapse by Jared Diamond? I thought he had a very interesting perspective of the future of China. I don't really want to sum it up for you, but you should definitely check out the chapter on the "Lurching Giant" to learn about its possibilities as a superpower or an utter failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_%28book%29


China is such a big country, it is difficult for the Chinese government to care about every little place. If it weren't for Mao ZeDong, China would be a better place. (no poverty communities and hunger)


Worst argument ever. China is a big country so if they can't handle it, they'll fail. That's not an excuse.

Whoever stated the one child policy being abolished is a dumbass.
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8757&size=A
http://english.sina.com/china/1/2007/0315/106515.html
It's changing, but it's not fully removed.
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Posted 6/15/07

skygod333 wrote:


noodles1631 wrote:


skygod333 wrote:

i didnt say it is dumb ass


go on then explain the term closer to perfection cos in my view, its fucked up, it american is wht u are talking about then wht is the war about?? did they find any fukcing nukes in iraq? and they had to fukcing get britian involoved as well and whts this about russia and america latley oh yeh don;t forget OBESITY...........



you cant talk about obesity, China has the most fast food restaurants in the world.
the war was to get saddam out of power and we stay to try and create a democratic government and a lasting peace.the brits got in on their own free will.ya youre right there are no nukes in iraq but oh well it doesnt matter, we got saddam out of power and we workin on peace even if its going badly. when i say our gov is closer to perfection i mean we're fairer than you guys.


Ohhhh arguing is so much fun. The war has nothing to do with Saddam. Its a "war against terrorism", well at least thats what congress declared... I guess Bush thought terrorism = Saddam as if he is Terrorism himself. China might have fast food restaurants... but we ain't overindulging like here. How did obesity come into play on a talk about government...

Anyways, what you described as "fair" is that you have freedom. Hell you have the freedom here to buy a gun and shoot someone. If you ever lived in china, beside some living conditions, it is no different than here. You go to school, compete into college, find a job. Of course it might be harder due to the overwhelming number of people in China, but its still the same. The government only censor stuff such as Chinese bashing media and....porn. I'm sure you can live without that. You prejudice against communism have blinded you and you need to see whats ACTUALLY happening before making remarks that are FAR from the truth.
Posted 6/15/07

happyxix wrote:


skygod333 wrote:


noodles1631 wrote:


skygod333 wrote:

i didnt say it is dumb ass


go on then explain the term closer to perfection cos in my view, its fucked up, it american is wht u are talking about then wht is the war about?? did they find any fukcing nukes in iraq? and they had to fukcing get britian involoved as well and whts this about russia and america latley oh yeh don;t forget OBESITY...........



you cant talk about obesity, China has the most fast food restaurants in the world.
the war was to get saddam out of power and we stay to try and create a democratic government and a lasting peace.the brits got in on their own free will.ya youre right there are no nukes in iraq but oh well it doesnt matter, we got saddam out of power and we workin on peace even if its going badly. when i say our gov is closer to perfection i mean we're fairer than you guys.


Ohhhh arguing is so much fun. The war has nothing to do with Saddam. Its a "war against terrorism", well at least thats what congress declared... I guess Bush thought terrorism = Saddam as if he is Terrorism himself. China might have fast food restaurants... but we ain't overindulging like here. How did obesity come into play on a talk about government...

Anyways, what you described as "fair" is that you have freedom. Hell you have the freedom here to buy a gun and shoot someone. If you ever lived in china, beside some living conditions, it is no different than here. You go to school, compete into college, find a job. Of course it might be harder due to the overwhelming number of people in China, but its still the same. The government only censor stuff such as Chinese bashing media and....porn. I'm sure you can live without that. You prejudice against communism have blinded you and you need to see whats ACTUALLY happening before making remarks that are FAR from the truth.


Saddam was funding terrorism dumb ass. obesity came into play when noodles brought it up.here we have the right to free enterprise, unlike in communism, the government owns everything. another thing, the chinese people cant hold free elections, its a communist country. our governement doesnt censor porn and any kind of media. and yes arguing is fun...if you arent enjoying yourself, quit arguing with me
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Oh arguing is fun because I thought you had some sort of intelligence instead of blasting out fiction. Did you forget how the United States funded Saddam? Or was that forgotten somewhere in history? And You have the right to free enterprise in China. There is such thing as competition hence why China has become more capitalistic. You are think of thinking of China = communism = bad. Thats like me saying America = Bush = retarded. Oh and you want media censoring? If you want to find out what REALLY happens in Iraq, don't look towards American news. They tell you the happy stuff. Now go to some other country such as France, England or even Canada, and they'll tell you a whole different story.
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Oh arguing is fun because I thought you had some sort of intelligence instead of blasting out fiction. Did you forget how the United States funded Saddam? Or was that forgotten somewhere in history? And You have the right to free enterprise in China. There is such thing as competition hence why China has become more capitalistic. You are think of thinking of China = communism = bad. Thats like me saying America = Bush = retarded. Oh and you want media censoring? If you want to find out what REALLY happens in Iraq, don't look towards American news. They tell you the happy stuff. Now go to some other country such as France, England or even Canada, and they'll tell you a whole different story.


i remembered that we had funded saddam but you have forgotten why:we did it because he was Iran's enemy and at the time the feeling was the enemy of the enemy is our friend. proved to be mistake so we fixed it. and what the fuck are you talkin about in american new?!they only talk about the death of the soldiers and if you thinks thats happy, youre one sick son of a bitch.the rest of the world will only show death too because thats the only place to get a good story. if i had a dollar for every time ive heard about a good thing thats happened in iraq, id owe money.
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Yes...the death of American soldiers... Oh my. What about the rest of the dead people? The death toll of Iraqis? The death toll of other countries? Or even the fact that Canada's only casualty of the war was due to a friendly fire by an American pilot. The only artical I've seen on this was in Time Magazine on how the states won't apologize for the mistake (which made Canada really angry btw)

American news censors so much of the bad stuff that the soldiers have done (Not the major things like abu grave or however you spell it). The minor things like mistaking civilians as terrorists and killing them. These things don't come from the American news because they don't want the country to lose moral but other countries don't give a crap and they post whatever they see as to be the truth.
Posted 6/15/07

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Yes...the death of American soldiers... Oh my. What about the rest of the dead people? The death toll of Iraqis? The death toll of other countries? Or even the fact that Canada's only casualty of the war was due to a friendly fire by an American pilot. The only artical I've seen on this was in Time Magazine on how the states won't apologize for the mistake (which made Canada really angry btw)

American news censors so much of the bad stuff that the soldiers have done (Not the major things like abu grave or however you spell it). The minor things like mistaking civilians as terrorists and killing them. These things don't come from the American news because they don't want the country to lose moral but other countries don't give a crap and they post whatever they see as to be the truth.


excuse us for being concerned about our people, unlike a certain country im thinking of... anyway, i hear about the death of iraqis all the time, they are frequently hurt or killed in the car bombings. in fact i bet you i could find the death toll of the iraqis on google. its not hard and the statistics are out there. only you just didnt bother to go see if it was out there before saying americans are only concerned about the death toll of the soldiers and not anything else.

Read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html

thats from an american news company
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Google is the internet. I was talking about American news. How about the death toll of Iraqis caused by American soldiers? Very rarely or none. The Chinese government care for their people too. You should see the relief effort they put in when the yang-si river flooded. They don't care for the individual there unless they are the extremely important but then again, neither does the states.

^ death toll in Iraq...Although its an good article, It wasn't quite what I was going for.... I need to think about this ...tomorrow after I wake up and...get my immunization shots ><
Posted 6/15/07

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Google is the internet. I was talking about American news. How about the death toll of Iraqis caused by American soldiers? Very rarely or none. The Chinese government care for their people too. You should see the relief effort they put in when the yang-si river flooded. They don't care for the individual there unless they are the extremely important but then again, neither does the states.


its still american news!!!youre just being thick for the sake of it!! that was the entire death toll for the iraqis over the entire war period!!! i watched a video provided by kenshin where i saw a bunch of chinese soldiers shooting tibetans on a religious quest, their own people, who were doing no harm to anyone, and than your precious chinese government censored it so it looked like they were on the offensive and that the soldiers were heroes.those soldiers are murderers and their goverment told them to do so.
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skygod333 wrote:


happyxix wrote:

Google is the internet. I was talking about American news. How about the death toll of Iraqis caused by American soldiers? Very rarely or none. The Chinese government care for their people too. You should see the relief effort they put in when the yang-si river flooded. They don't care for the individual there unless they are the extremely important but then again, neither does the states.


its still american news!!!youre just being thick for the sake of it!! that was the entire death toll for the iraqis over the entire war period!!! i watched a video provided by kenshin where i saw a bunch of chinese soldiers shooting tibetans on a religious quest, their own people, who were doing no harm to anyone, and than your precious chinese government censored it so it looked like they were on the offensive and that the soldiers were heroes.those soldiers are murderers and their goverment told them to do so.


Like I said I don't believe in that video. Its made by the people who often comes up with other bullshit. Although, I have to admit, its likely the Chinese government might do that, but thats more than likely the local government's decision and not the people who don't give a crap up in Beijing. Anyways BED TIME. Gotta control meself.
Posted 6/15/07

happyxix wrote:


skygod333 wrote:


happyxix wrote:

Google is the internet. I was talking about American news. How about the death toll of Iraqis caused by American soldiers? Very rarely or none. The Chinese government care for their people too. You should see the relief effort they put in when the yang-si river flooded. They don't care for the individual there unless they are the extremely important but then again, neither does the states.


its still american news!!!youre just being thick for the sake of it!! that was the entire death toll for the iraqis over the entire war period!!! i watched a video provided by kenshin where i saw a bunch of chinese soldiers shooting tibetans on a religious quest, their own people, who were doing no harm to anyone, and than your precious chinese government censored it so it looked like they were on the offensive and that the soldiers were heroes.those soldiers are murderers and their goverment told them to do so.


Like I said I don't believe in that video. Its made by the people who often comes up with other bullshit. Although, I have to admit, its likely the Chinese government might do that, but thats more than likely the local government's decision and not the people who don't give a crap up in Beijing. Anyways BED TIME. Gotta control meself.


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conveniently enough you dont believe in that video...God knows your government is perfect and has never done wrong....of course you dont believe in that video, it makes your precious country look bad i bet your government cencored that didnt they?
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Off-topic a bit, mayhaps.
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...such lovely care and love of each other! ... communism is bad its a bad bad bad system... its upstart in each country was a freaking fight each time...white guard vs red guard.... Finland was the only country i know of that won with the Good White guard... while russia china korea... vietnam is more or less happy though miserable... but the russia china and korea perahps a few more succombed to the red... and theyv suffered for it.... look at them now... then look at Finland who won from the begining and struggled valiantly as always... ( hey it is my Birthland... so im a tad overzealous about Finland ) and Finland is a bright beacon of love... although they pron problems abit now too.. oh well.. look at South Korea, thieve done fairly well with struggling.. look that island off the chineses coast Hong Kong i think where the losing whiteguard their resettled... HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS ... while comunism sucked world wide....seriously its caused offshooting problems everywhere... it also enabled what happened in the 1930s and wwII with germany... while the WHITE Guard where tehy won or survived and escaped too those countrys flourished and have done good for the world.

SERIOUSLY... communism sucks and is evil and is all but in ruins now... while where the White Guard was flourished where tehy won and provided bright beacons to the world.
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Posted 6/15/07

jamehze wrote:

Haha I love Chinese nationalists. They're all so funny.

However, this is nothing new. Chinese people have always done fucked up things so this doesn't surprise me at all. Also outsourcing is generally going more to Hong Kong and Macao than anywhere else if I'm right. Those areas are not subject to communistic ideals so I wouldn't say it's necessarily proof enough of a capitalistic shifting society.



Actually they're putting in factories pretty much anywhere, not just HK.
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