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why do people lie on forum topics?
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I lie to be kind and nice with people. I can tell your truth if you want.
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DesidusRyke wrote:


c4nnibalism wrote:

Omg.
No way.
People lie on da forums?!?!?!?!111?!?!1


No they never do. *says as straightfaced as possible*


Oh okay good.
I mean I wuz worried dere.
l0lz.
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ispy12 wrote:

I lie to be kind and nice with people. I can tell your truth if you want.


LOL that makes it sound like your really an A-hole your just covering it up.. but I know what you mean. Honesty is good to a point... and then it falls off a cliff and dies painfully.
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DesidusRyke wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


Amunat wrote:



In all fairness, reading ten thousands of books doesn't equal great wisdom... Did you ever consider that your hate towards people with beliefs is just as destructive as religous fundamentalism?

One more time....

The words hate & intolerance as used in regards to people of religious faith entails:
Genocide, the destruction of nations, and the torture of innocent men, women, and children.

The words hate & intolerance as used in regards to atheists and free thinkers entails:
Destroying bullshit arguments, and hurting no one.


Atheism and free thinking has never been the one with all the power, so that argument is kinda moot. I am sure that if atheism does gain the power of being the main idea (which I think is likely) I don't have too much hope in the fact that it won't follow in the same footsteps as religions have. It comes down to the very simplistic "My ideals are better than yours" taken to extremes whether or not because of a belief in God, Gods, or Goddesses.

Moral relativism trumps dogmatism. Of course it's better, don't be silly, free thinkers actually think things through before coming to decisions. They aren't handed dubious orders from on-high.

You sure that argument is moot because reasonable people will start doing unreasonable things just the same way deluded scripture following fundamentalists do? That's a bit of a leap. Especially when the most secular countries in the world also have the lowest crime rates.

Atheists don't follow dogmatic nonsense, in fact we are defined by the fact that we refuse to follow it.

Only fundamentalist brainwashing can lead to religious actions like: ritual child mutilation, murdering women as witches (still happening in radicalized Christian Africa today), murdering innocent men for being homosexual (same), murdering people in other denominations of the same faith (never ending), murdering people in denominations of wholly different faiths (never ending), murdering people with no faith (never ending), hijacking planes and flying them into buildings, blowing planes up with everyone on board, the deliberate targeting of civilians (never ending), the deliberate massacre of civilians in the form of genocide because of their religious affiliations (never ending), suppressing social equality, suppressing religious equality (you can thank free thinkers for the separation of church and state), suppressing sexual equality, suppressing marriage equality, suppressing reproductive rights, suppressing free speech, puritanical censorship of television, puritanical censorship of radio, puritanical censorship of the internet, puritanical censorship of artwork, child rape by trusted moral authorities of God, institutionalized child rape within the church, institutionalized child rape as protected by an oligarchy of priests who knowingly place pedophiles in churches around the world and then shift them across the globe when they're caught raping children and then the organization browbeats the parents of raped children into thinking they must not call the police, they must forgive child rapists and ignore the suffering of innocent children, encouraging the spread of AIDS in Africa by calling condoms evil, preventing the eradication of polio and allowing it to resurface because scripture dictates avoidance of modern medicine, allowing children with easily curable medical conditions to suffer and die because scripture dictates avoidance of modern medicine, shall I continue....?

None of those actions have motivations which free thinkers hold to. Atheists lack collective motivation, or willingness to enact any of it. So we can at least cross that stuff off the list of atrocities we're used to seeing in this religiously dominated world.
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yo man. Even though this thread is old, you gotta chillaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I'm sure you've lied at least once in your life so that just means you're hypocrite too. gawsh. SHEESH.
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People lie too much,wether it is to save face or make people feel better.I read some forum stuff,my boots are covered in brown stink from five seconds of reading.Especially in the guys only forum of do guys really care about woman's breast size.Only two people answered honestly. I hate liars and hypocrites.This guy actually dissed his girl for having glands,or that is if his girl is not imaginary.Why do people gotta lie so much?


Man - I'd take the time to calm you down, and try to convince you that people aren't complete liars, but I've got to go outside and clean up the meteoroid that just made a mess out of my back yard. Curse these meteor showers.
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Because why not? Why the hell do you want the truth anyway?
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The words hate & intolerance as used in regards to people of religious faith entails:
Genocide, the destruction of nations, and the torture of innocent men, women, and children.

The words hate & intolerance as used in regards to atheists and free thinkers entails:
Destroying bullshit arguments, and hurting no one.


Again, I respectfully disagree. It's not neccesarily like that. In some cases, true, but I would hesitate in claiming that it's fact. Atheists can be utterly terrible when trying to force their own lack of belief on others and their own hate towards people with belief will get them no where. They end up hurting as well, even though that may not be their intention.

Being a free thinker should also entail tolerance and acceptance of other people's beliefs. If people would stop looking down on each other for their choice of belief I think we would live in a better world, but as the world is now that's definitely utopia.
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Amunat wrote:




The words hate & intolerance as used in regards to people of religious faith entails:
Genocide, the destruction of nations, and the torture of innocent men, women, and children.

The words hate & intolerance as used in regards to atheists and free thinkers entails:
Destroying bullshit arguments, and hurting no one.


Again, I respectfully disagree. It's not neccesarily like that. In some cases, true, but I would hesitate in claiming that it's fact. Atheists can be utterly terrible when trying to force their own lack of belief on others and their own hate towards people with belief will get them no where. They end up hurting as well, even though that may not be their intention.

Being a free thinker should also entail tolerance and acceptance of other people's beliefs. If people would stop looking down on each other for their choice of belief I think we would live in a better world, but as the world is now that's definitely utopia.

Learn what the word intolerance means.

If it means respecting other people's rights to believe whatever they like, while exercising your own freedom of speech: ITS NOT INTOLERANCE.

Banning stuff, killing people, the kind of shit religious people do -- that's intolerance.

Free thinkers literally invented "religious rights" and forced the separation of church and state which makes it possible.
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Please don't lecture me on what the word intolerance means... It's like you don't realize that what you preach about on here is like the exact same thing as what "those religious people" is preaching.


the kind of shit religious people do
If that's not intolerance right there then I don't know what the hell it is... You are pretty much generalizing all religious people.
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WHY DO PEOPLE LIE? BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO OR TO SAY
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Amunat wrote:



Please don't lecture me on what the word intolerance means... It's like you don't realize that what you preach about on here is like the exact same thing as what "those religious people" is preaching.


the kind of shit religious people do
If that's not intolerance right there then I don't know what the hell it is... You are pretty much generalizing all religious people.

Yes I am generalizing, and I can get away with it becaues the generalization never applies to atheists, we don't bomb abortion clinics and kill women for not wearing a head scarf. Only religious dogma can motivate people en mass to do atrocious things like that. And that is all that I have criticized. You are defending their behavior, that actually makes you immoral and unethical.

And I'll stop lecturing you when you demonstrate a non-fictional understanding of the word intolerance as applied to religion and open discussion. You have utterly failed to do so. You can't accuse the lifeguards of being against saving drowning people. You can't accuse free thinkers of intolerance of religion when we are solely responsible for giving you your religious rights by fighting for the separation of church and state.
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What the? Just because you can get away with it doesn't mean that you should generalize, just makes you as bad as them. Believing that only religous dogma can make people do atrocious things is so out there... Everyone is capable of atrocius things.

And when on earth did I defend their behavior? That's the last thing I want to do, all I said was simply to have some decent respect for people with other views than yourself and not feel like they deserve to be laughed at. I have nothing left towards the fundamentalists and their sometimes sick behavior, but I don't generalize every single religous person out there. You are completely twisting my words.
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Basically, because they can, and it's easy to do so.

However, since it's the Internet, you can also be honest without too much worry about what others will think. Why? Because most of the people you meet online you will never see in person. It's a place where I can be as weird as I want to be.


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What the? Just because you can get away with it doesn't mean that you should generalize, just makes you as bad as them. Believing that only religous dogma can make people do atrocious things is so out there... Everyone is capable of atrocius things.

And when on earth did I defend their behavior? That's the last thing I want to do, all I said was simply to have some decent respect for people with other views than yourself and not feel like they deserve to be laughed at. I have nothing left towards the fundamentalists and their sometimes sick behavior, but I don't generalize every single religous person out there. You are completely twisting my words.


First I have to explain the definition of intolerance, now I have to explain generalization too? Look I understand that you're functionally illiterate but this is getting desperate. Just because you have heard the word "generalized" used with negative connotations does not mean it is always negative, nor does it mean it is equivalent to some swear word which can't be said, or allowed to occur.

Someone has made a "bad" generalization when they include a group which is in fact excluded from the subset they were naming. Calling out a group which is in fact the full set of all people who are motivated to participate in said activities vs a group which is never movitated to do so is exclusionary in the correct manner and perfectly fine. It's not a bad generalization. Atheists don't enact religious dogma. Only religious people enact religious dogma. That is a perfectly acceptable generalization. You demonstrate a lack of conceptual understanding by claiming otherwise.

And yes, believe it or not you are technically defending religiously motivated behavior by telling me that I'm being intolerant for my open criticism of atrocious, bigoted, murderous behavior seen around the world motivated solely by religious dogma. You are making a false assertion and you are attempting to defend the only side which has been attacked, for good cause I might add, which means you are defending immoral and unethical acts. Which side of this debate did you think you were on? The free thinker's side?
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