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Judge Sentences Honors Student to Jail for Missing School
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tortoiseshell wrote:

Do you guys have any faith in the law in your country? I mean... if I lived in America I would be pretty worried.


No faith at all. There are people in law enforcement with good intentions, but rules/regulations restrict anything and everything we think say and feel.

Believe me when I tell you, the imprisoned have more freedom than the free. I worked in a prison for 2 years, I would know.
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Hmmm....Lots of corruption when it comes to that type of stuff...
(Like cops accepting their share of the goods and letting them go)
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What was she arrested for? is truancy even punishable by law?
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Well at least the judge changed his mind though.
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neumaus wrote:

Don't they have better things to do? Or rather, far more serious criminals to apprehend?
Although really, that girl is no criminal. She should be commended for the massive responsibility she holds.

Yes yes, lets bother with an honors student who misses school, instead of sex offenders and murders. Yup, that sure makes sense.


Correct me if i'm wrong but judges aren't the ones riding in cop cars. Those would be police officers.
Plus the fact that you think sex offenders and murders would just waltz into a courtroom and admit that they commited a crime. They have to be caught, just like this girl was in order to be prosecuted.


AsuraCryin wrote:

Cruel and unusual punishment - the judge needs to study law again. He even admitted he didn't know the full circumstances yet he jumps into action - look before you leap.

He proved himself to be a failure of a judge.


A night in jail and a 100$ fine is not Cruel and Unusual Punishment for breaking a law. True, he should have looked at her situation before issuing a verdict, but that does not warrent an accusation, especially one that's false.


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This is what's wrong with the world. Judges would rather arrest KIDS IN SCHOOL than a drug dealer, and cops would rather setup a bike/car sting(police leave a bike/car unattended and wait for it to be stolen) than to raid a known drug/gun dealer's house.


Except for the fact that she wasn't attending school on a regular basis which is why she was arrested in the first place.
Just as with neumaus, you seem to think the wrong thing. Do you really think judges are refusing to issue warrents because they feel like it and not because they're presented insufficient evidence to fully convict convicts? Do you know how many dealers are let free because the police botched an attempt or failed to provide concrete evidence during trial?
Sure, stings are deceitful, but you're not exactly in the right if you take advantage of the situation.


indri3269 wrote:

Why? What? *looks to the sky*
What's the world coming to ?!?
I couldn't even do what she's doing! If they're going to make an example of her, then they need to make an example of the students who go to class drunk. Or better yet, those students whose grades are horrid and are on MASS amounts of drugs. No wait. Those poor students just need counseling right?
It doesn't make any sense!!!!
I'm going to sit here...with my head against the desk...*faceslam*


You seem to think that they don't punish those that do show up to class drunk or on drugs (Hint: They do, they just don't get the same punishment due to being a minor). They also punish students who skip class for x amount of days. The only reason you guys are up-in-arms about this story is because the student's situation is different than a typical case like staying at home to play video games or going to the mall.


toxxin wrote:

What was she arrested for? is truancy even punishable by law?


Google it instead of asking people who pull stuff out of their ***es.

I'm wondering why everyone is putting the blame solely on the judge and not, if partially, the school administration who most likely reported the incident to the police in the first place. Am I the only one who sees the school at fault for not handling the situation internally such as agreeing on a resolution that benefits both? Am I the only one who may place part of the blame on the girl if she did not disclose her situation to the school administration which kept them in the dark about why she wasn't coming to class?
Granted I didn't read the article so feel free to point them out to me.
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... this sounds like the plot of a Seinen series. One of those "Crushing something good over and over again, no hope, forever" kinds of stories ...

THIS is an example of why Judges, police, and the people in power (including the school administrators, the hell guys?) are no longer trusted. This is the lowest thing I have heard related to United States Law in a long time.

You MIGHT try to get the arrest expunged from this severely distressed 17 year old honor student's record? Oh, that's so kind of you! Thank you for doing her that favor.

You FUCKING MONSTER!!
(the judge stated after he had done this that he did not know any of the details surrounding the girl's situation. So, you ruled on a case you did not have all the facts for? Really?)

The judge was convicted in 2009 of Ethics violations, as well.

Anyone want to throw out of race card? The girl is Asian!

I'm not saying that has ANYTHING to do with it!! But ...
Anyone want to make a wager?
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FallenYmir wrote:

Correct me if i'm wrong but judges aren't the ones riding in cop cars. Those would be police officers.
Plus the fact that you think sex offenders and murders would just waltz into a courtroom and admit that they commited a crime. They have to be caught, just like this girl was in order to be prosecuted.



You completely misunderstood. What I meant to say, is that with all the problems in this country, they felt the need to focus on something so obscure. I'm well aware judges are not police officers, however, that's not the point. Additionally, a court case of any kind costs tax payers. Why should tax payers pay for something so ridiculous? I'd much rather them tackle real offenders, not some pseudo-offender.
I consider her a pseudo-offender, because although skipping class is punishable by law (and I thought it wasn't punishable for high school kids..?), it's really not a real crime, like theft or other things. Basically, I'd rather have honor students skipping classes all over the country, than thieves or rapists. I think most people would agree.
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Right, a sob fest for some kid who had to pay $100 and spend a night in jail. She's an honors student, but High School education is a joke. If you give even half a shit about doing well, it's pretty easy to do so. "But OMG, working two jobs is SO HARD." Yeah, getting paid to do laundry is really difficult, I can see why she's so exhausted afterwards.

Regardless of the difficulty, though, it was her choice. This story is bothersome to me because of the lack of responsibility people have for their own actions. I think we can mostly agree that high school classes are near useless to attend, and the law in question sucks. Cool, whatever. What discomforts me, however, is that most of you seem to think that what she is doing is hard, and even worse, that doing something hard exonerates you from doing things that are easy, like going to class. Shit, you don't even need to be awake to be in class.

"Nobel prize winner fined for parking in handicapped zone." I could just imagine this headline, and a similar reaction. "I was so exhausted from all the research, It was just too hard to walk the extra distance." And all of you dunces agreeing with him -- "handicapped spots are always open anyway, it's sad that cops are arresting Nobel Prize winners instead of lazy douches that park in handicapped spots because they're lazy."

With every job I've ever worked, it seems as though all the workers there bitched about how hard they had it. Some even decided to skip out on some of their duties out of some feeling that "they work hard enough already." Keep in mind, I've worked in the fast food industry. People actually complain about being paid to make a sandwich, or cut up some vegetables, or talk to customers without cursing their existence (even though customers seem to bitch as much as employees do). Take some responsibility for yourselves. It seems like most people here are trying to make this story seem like the "downfall of society," or the "corruption of the law." You all seem to think that life should be easy, or that you have it hard. The law is shitty, but it's not like she didn't deserve the punishment. She made a miscalculation about the extent to which she could handle a given amount of work, and doesn't seem to attribute her failings to her own error in judgement. She made a decision, failed, and denies the consequences. Yeah, she's so admirable. Then again, I've never met the girl, so I guess I can't really comment meaningfully on her particular situation. Nonetheless, the comments in this thread mirror most of my experiences with co-workers -- deluded and full of shit. The saddest part of it all though, is that I've been trying to ween myself away from pointless internet arguments for a while now, and I only made it a couple of months before I caved to this thread. Pathetic.
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And she had to be Asian. LMAO!
Posted 5/27/12

FallenYmir wrote:


neumaus wrote:

Don't they have better things to do? Or rather, far more serious criminals to apprehend?
Although really, that girl is no criminal. She should be commended for the massive responsibility she holds.

Yes yes, lets bother with an honors student who misses school, instead of sex offenders and murders. Yup, that sure makes sense.


Correct me if i'm wrong but judges aren't the ones riding in cop cars. Those would be police officers.
Plus the fact that you think sex offenders and murders would just waltz into a courtroom and admit that they commited a crime. They have to be caught, just like this girl was in order to be prosecuted.


AsuraCryin wrote:

Cruel and unusual punishment - the judge needs to study law again. He even admitted he didn't know the full circumstances yet he jumps into action - look before you leap.

He proved himself to be a failure of a judge.


A night in jail and a 100$ fine is not Cruel and Unusual Punishment for breaking a law. True, he should have looked at her situation before issuing a verdict, but that does not warrent an accusation, especially one that's false.


Phsyco_1 wrote:

This is what's wrong with the world. Judges would rather arrest KIDS IN SCHOOL than a drug dealer, and cops would rather setup a bike/car sting(police leave a bike/car unattended and wait for it to be stolen) than to raid a known drug/gun dealer's house.


Except for the fact that she wasn't attending school on a regular basis which is why she was arrested in the first place.
Just as with neumaus, you seem to think the wrong thing. Do you really think judges are refusing to issue warrents because they feel like it and not because they're presented insufficient evidence to fully convict convicts? Do you know how many dealers are let free because the police botched an attempt or failed to provide concrete evidence during trial?
Sure, stings are deceitful, but you're not exactly in the right if you take advantage of the situation.


indri3269 wrote:

Why? What? *looks to the sky*
What's the world coming to ?!?
I couldn't even do what she's doing! If they're going to make an example of her, then they need to make an example of the students who go to class drunk. Or better yet, those students whose grades are horrid and are on MASS amounts of drugs. No wait. Those poor students just need counseling right?
It doesn't make any sense!!!!
I'm going to sit here...with my head against the desk...*faceslam*


You seem to think that they don't punish those that do show up to class drunk or on drugs (Hint: They do, they just don't get the same punishment due to being a minor). They also punish students who skip class for x amount of days. The only reason you guys are up-in-arms about this story is because the student's situation is different than a typical case like staying at home to play video games or going to the mall.


toxxin wrote:

What was she arrested for? is truancy even punishable by law?


Google it instead of asking people who pull stuff out of their ***es.

I'm wondering why everyone is putting the blame solely on the judge and not, if partially, the school administration who most likely reported the incident to the police in the first place. Am I the only one who sees the school at fault for not handling the situation internally such as agreeing on a resolution that benefits both? Am I the only one who may place part of the blame on the girl if she did not disclose her situation to the school administration which kept them in the dark about why she wasn't coming to class?
Granted I didn't read the article so feel free to point them out to me.


I couldn't agree more. I was actually going to be quoting most of the same things and responding almost the same way. Now I guess I don't have to.
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How can any of you think that this is fine, when the legal age to drop out of school is 16? Seriously WTF???? How the fuck can a minor be put in jail over something like this? It says she's 17. There's worse things kids do and they don't go to jail. The judge should be in jail

I've had enough with this country infringing on our rights and trying to arrest everyone. Private prisons etc etc etc etc. all the same. The government should be afraid of the citizens, not the other way around. it's for the people. wake up
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This guy is a moron. She's working two jobs and supporting a family because her parents left. She's doing more at 17 than most people do in their lifetime. Judge definitely in the wrong for this
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Truancy with a note from a doctor is not punishable. Though, he should've looked furthered into it. They're trying to get kids into school. I still think public education is a joke.
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Actually she is underaged and was abandoned by her parents apparently so why are they not in jail? She should have not been forced into this situation in the 1st place.

Even so, if she had applied for emancipation, which she has grounds for, she would have been able do as she wills, and the truancy charge would not have stuck because she wouldn't have been a minor. Also, she would be able to drop out and do her 6 weeks of GED classes and still be able to have a decent college career.

I have to disagree with most of you on here about the Judge, he was put in place to do a job, sometimes the job is a tough one. All he is required to do is hold up the law, regardless of the circumstances of that law being broke or his or her own personal opinion, in other words, he did what he was supposed to do.

It's easy to "judge" people from behind the comfort of a keyboard though, isn't it?
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Ridiculous
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