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The One Person Who Ruins EVERTHING
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Posted 7/17/12

Tri-BorgDog wrote:

I've had a couple of students and even adults that needed to keep their comments themselves....


Gotta love when students can't figure out where they are. I had one asshat tell me not to lecture him, while he was sitting in, of all places, a lecture hall. I pointed it out and then told him that if he wanted to debate someone, he should head north across campus to the debate hall, where there were plenty of other people, who just like him, had also abandoned research and scientific inquiry for the chance to explain everything with emotional appeals and meaningless conjecture.
Posted 7/17/12

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I pointed it out and then told him that if he wanted to debate someone, he should head north across campus to the debate hall, where there were plenty of other people, who just like him, had also abandoned research and scientific inquiry for the chance to explain everything with emotional appeals and meaningless conjecture.


Are you talking about philosophy?
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some people just don't know when to STFU i know a lot of them on Facebook that's why i don't even go on their at all anymore
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Posted 7/17/12

negan wrote:


AshRandom wrote:

I pointed it out and then told him that if he wanted to debate someone, he should head north across campus to the debate hall, where there were plenty of other people, who just like him, had also abandoned research and scientific inquiry for the chance to explain everything with emotional appeals and meaningless conjecture.


Are you talking about philosophy?


You're thinking too logically.

Logic tells us that when it comes to debate -- we can only debate that which is debatable. Sounds obvious doesn't it? So philosophy being chock full of unproven propositions, would immediately come to mind and perfectly fit the bill of debatable subject matter.

But that's not the case. People try to debate things which aren't debatable, every day of the week. They outright dispute proven, testable, repeatably verifiable facts, which is to anyone in a scientific discipline: completely unacceptable.

Furthermore I would be willing to go as far as to say there's literally nothing functionally useful that has ever come out of the bullshit which gets tossed around in a debate hall. Even if two scientists were to be the ones debating, they still wouldn't accomplish anything because in the end, if they ever want to prove anything, they still need to lay hands on some empirical data.

Though, thinking about the statement I just made. I suppose you could make the case that lawyers are a functionally useful product produced by debate halls. That's technically true, but if the job lawyers perform consists of going around the country doing nothing other than trying to explain away everything their clients did, using emotional appeals and meaningless conjecture on a group of 12 people uneducated in the full meaning of the word evidence........ I think we may have run into a closed loop.

Either way, be it Legal burden of proof, or Philosophic burden of proof, debaters use the same exact bullshit tactics. They sure as fuck don't use the scientific method, thus leading me to disparage and condemn the practice entirely. When there's no definable difference between the tactics used by lawyers and used car salesmen, I think it can be said that they both contribute to the betterment of mankind equally. Which is to say: NOT AT ALL.
Posted 7/17/12
I don't know if this falls under this topic, I am an adult student along with 10 more students in the class. There's always 1 or 2 people who asks questions that's sooo fuckin unrelated and makes me wanna break my pen. Also there are things that people blurt out stuff and the professor just nods the hell along with it, lol. Every damn day I feel really badly for the teacher gettin' hit with ignorance all the time. So I step in to try to make it up by asking questions that are related to the subject of area, I mean no shit, I am here to gain knowledge and graduate, it's effin common sense...
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Trolls
I could be having a good day then a troll walks up to me and says you suck
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Posted 7/18/12
That would be me... I somehow ALWAYS hurt myself, lose something, freak out, make things awkward... yes... thats me

OR my friend

because he's been SOOO protected and shielded all his life, it seems like he's unable to emphasize with others.
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I will be honest and say I know where the line is, but there will be times where I ignore it and make the jokes or comments, only around my brother though...will not do it around anyone else. Still trying to figure out why that is...funny thing is even when he gives me that look like I am going to Hell for what I said he stills laughs...
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Posted 9/19/12 , edited 9/19/12

FalafelJoy wrote:

I don't know if this falls under this topic, I am an adult student along with 10 more students in the class. There's always 1 or 2 people who asks questions that's sooo fuckin unrelated and makes me wanna break my pen. Also there are things that people blurt out stuff and the professor just nods the hell along with it, lol. Every damn day I feel really badly for the teacher gettin' hit with ignorance all the time. So I step in to try to make it up by asking questions that are related to the subject of area, I mean no shit, I am here to gain knowledge and graduate, it's effin common sense...


This might be a bit late, but I love you for saying it, believing it and acting the way you do.

In the course of my career I've learned to lay into students who ask off-topic questions. I verbally berate them tersely on the subject matter and then outright attack them on a personal level. Though it is never wise to resort to ad hominem attacks in a debate, I slip past that hook without being caught since I have absolutely no fucking intention of debating morons in the middle of a lecture.

I didn't start out thinking that way, but after having an extremely detrimental experience -- namely failing to get through all of the material required for the first half-semester of a course as a direct result of assholes asking off topic tangential nonsense -- I realized I had no choice but to go on the offensive. I started throwing people out. Literally, I'd just ask them for their name, find them in the list and draw a line through it. Then I'd say: "I've drawn a line through your name, if you do not leave I'm going to fail you, so head to the registry office and get a withdrawal slip, or suffer the devastating impact an F will have on your grade point average."

I threw out thirty people from a class that started with less than three hundred. Another hundred people withdrew on their own. And I had enough of those unreasonable assholes go complain about me, that I was pressured by administration to change tactics.

Now, like I said, I just verbally abuse the shit out of them and scare everyone else into obedience. I don't actually know if the morons who ask stupid, off-topic questions are doing it to intentionally screw with the curriculum, my agenda, me personally, or just to screw with my ability to teach, but they are whether they know it, or not, and I act accordingly.

I simply can't afford to waste time with idiots asking philosophical questions in the middle of class because they think their head full of religious mumbojumbo is being threatened. Fuck mumbojumbo. And fuck students who sign up for classes which conflict with their religious brainwashing. Fuck them right in their fucking faces. That's exactly what I'm thinking every single time and I unleash a torrent of caustic acid on anyone and everyone like that. They're the most horrible examples of human beings I can think of and have no understanding whatsoever of how poisoned their minds are. It's not my job to spend half an hour explaining the philosophical truth of the universe in the middle of a lesson on molecular chemistry. Especially when their knee-jerk reaction is to just refuse to accept it anyway and then turn hostile and start taking everything I teach as a verbal challenge. Like I'm targeting them personally, or some such nonsense.

The level of anger and frustration I've built up over the years is.... hard to describe. There have been times where I actually broke down into tears. Thinking about how insane it is to be EXPECTED to reason with people, who are hostile to every method and approach to reason, just makes my whole body shake. I tremble with terror and morbid fear at the prospect even now, I'd rather jump off a bridge. Like, I'm going to have to fight them, but they won't allow me to win with words and by law I can't physically attack them. What the fuck is that? The invisible force field of dogma?

Ugh.... I can't do it. I won't do it. I refuse to even debate, or discuss, or nod my head and play along. No. No fucking way. Ad hominem is the only way to go. Just blast the morons directly out of their fucking seats and scare everyone else shitless. I didn't break my back to get tenured just to have to compromise my lesson plans. Displaying an angry face is the only logical thing to do with people who are unmoved by logic and unpersuaded by evidence. Full-on, hostile, primate styled displays of body language. Show them an angrier face than an angry bird. I haven't quite gotten to the point of pantomiming defecating in my hand and pretending to throw it, but I've thought about it!

Ugh... I wish I had that perspective gun from Hitchhiker's guide, blast them in the brain and make them see reason instantly. As it is now, I have to give up on them. But, I don't want to give up on them! I want them to learn! I want them to grow! I want them to think clearly! UGH!!!! Fucking world full of fucking asshole parents abusing their own kids critical thinking faculties until their minds are worn out and left looking like bruised bleeding nubs.... Why not just hit the kid in the head with a hammer and make it obvious you brain damaged them? Disgusting people.

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I make it akward sometimes, because I'm blunt and just say what's in my head, I don't really have boundaries. I mean I don't go making random rude comments about people, I just have a weird mind and when I say shit, people be all like "The fu?"
Posted 9/19/12
I usualy say whatever I want I don't care who it is I told my mom she is old and has an ugly ass dress to(which it was)
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Posted 9/19/12

Zeta-Nu wrote:

the only one person who ruins everything is Carbokill, so that`s why many people in crunchyroll got pissed.

also people who hate me, please do not reply to this post because i haven`t done anything against you.


Umm can we not have you going around advertising for CarboKill? It is NOT allowed to insult a particular user in the forums anyway. Give me a break, Zeta. -> Site Rules


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Posted 9/19/12

gaara579 wrote:


Oh yes that was me. But I couldn't help it so I made another account because I was bored.


You know what helps against boredom? Workout.
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My sister meddles in everything she is a Bitch
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