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SilverxButterfly wrote:

I actually plan to start smoking when I am of age.

My reasons is that I suffer through anxiety, and smoking helps the nerves relax. Frankly I find the smell attractive.

Although any smoker should understand that you should probably avoid smoking nearby children or elderly people. It is proven that the smoke can affect their health.


As others above have mentioned, nicotine is a stimulant - it does NOT help the nerves relax. It isn't the cigarettes that help people relax, it's the part where they take a 5 minute break to go outside, take deep breathes and chat with some friends. It would in fact be MORE relaxing if you did all of that without taking a stimulant.
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SilverxButterfly wrote:

I actually plan to start smoking when I am of age.


That is the weirdest thing. Also very unattractive. -.-
Maybe try out cigarillos instead of cigarettes because the smell isn't as bad for others around you.
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Taedrin wrote:


SilverxButterfly wrote:

I actually plan to start smoking when I am of age.

My reasons is that I suffer through anxiety, and smoking helps the nerves relax. Frankly I find the smell attractive.

Although any smoker should understand that you should probably avoid smoking nearby children or elderly people. It is proven that the smoke can affect their health.


As others above have mentioned, nicotine is a stimulant - it does NOT help the nerves relax.


Nicotine releases dopamine and serotonin, which I would call relaxing.

A nice cigarette after a long day of work -- very relaxing.
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No I don't, it's a disgusting habit that killed both of my parents
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Nope- never plan to start either - I just thinks its disgusting (my opinion)
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st1rn3r wrote:


Taedrin wrote:


SilverxButterfly wrote:

I actually plan to start smoking when I am of age.

My reasons is that I suffer through anxiety, and smoking helps the nerves relax. Frankly I find the smell attractive.

Although any smoker should understand that you should probably avoid smoking nearby children or elderly people. It is proven that the smoke can affect their health.


As others above have mentioned, nicotine is a stimulant - it does NOT help the nerves relax.


Nicotine releases dopamine and serotonin, which I would call relaxing.

A nice cigarette after a long day of work -- very relaxing.


Neither of which reduce anxiety or cause you to relax. Fortunately, nicotine doesn't actually increase dopamine and serotonin levels in your brain - it only increases your sensitivity to it. If it DID increase dopamine and serotonin levels, it would be more comparable to cocaine and methamphetamine - both of which increase dopamine and serotonin levels by preventing their uptake.

Symptoms of serotonin syndrome (too much serotonin):
-Agitation or restlessness
-Diarrhea
-Fast heart beat
-Hallucinations
-Increased body temperature
-Loss of coordination
-Nausea
-Overactive reflexes
-Rapid changes in blood pressure
-Vomiting

Notice how these are all characteristic of increased anxiety - not decreased anxiety. The reason why people think that a stimulant drug causes them to "relax" is because taking the drug is the best way to relieve withdrawal symptoms.

Trust me, it isn't the nicotine that causes you to relax, it's the taking a break for 5 minutes at regular intervals every day that does it.
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My father smokes and my boyfriend does too. I dont smoke cigarettes, but i do still smoke weed every now and then to relieve pain. When im 18 ill be on medical marijuana because i have arthitis, chronic pain, and joint damage from sports.
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funnyginsan wrote:

What is CBT? do I have to go to a doctor to get put in these magical "courses"? lol

I have had anxiety for my entire life and it has always been "see a shrink" or "take a pill" so I am pretty psyched to hear about something else.


Unless it's referring to a certain type of torture that uses the same acronym, I think this "CBT" is cognitive-behavioral therapy, a short-term structured therapy targeting specific conditions such as anxiety. I hope I can explain it OK and not lead you astray. It's supposed to work on the premise that a person sizes up a situation based on their thoughts and visual images, but those constructs or assumptions may be faulty, such as assuming "I will fail." The therapy hopes to correct these faulty automatic constructs by identifying and testing them. It is generally done by mental health professionals, may be individual or group therapy, and may or may not include a recommendation for medication. So you can't completely avoid the shrinks. And it frequently involves..."homework" (gasp). Some people do go at it alone using a manual like The Feeling Good Handbook that you can get at a regular bookstore. Just overlook the *cough* cheesy title.
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I like to ski, hike trails, swim, and run.

Would I want to fuck up my lungs by smoking? Hell no.
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Taedrin wrote:


st1rn3r wrote:


Taedrin wrote:


SilverxButterfly wrote:

I actually plan to start smoking when I am of age.

My reasons is that I suffer through anxiety, and smoking helps the nerves relax. Frankly I find the smell attractive.

Although any smoker should understand that you should probably avoid smoking nearby children or elderly people. It is proven that the smoke can affect their health.


As others above have mentioned, nicotine is a stimulant - it does NOT help the nerves relax.


Nicotine releases dopamine and serotonin, which I would call relaxing.

A nice cigarette after a long day of work -- very relaxing.


Neither of which reduce anxiety or cause you to relax. Fortunately, nicotine doesn't actually increase dopamine and serotonin levels in your brain - it only increases your sensitivity to it. If it DID increase dopamine and serotonin levels, it would be more comparable to cocaine and methamphetamine - both of which increase dopamine and serotonin levels by preventing their uptake.

Symptoms of serotonin syndrome (too much serotonin):
-Agitation or restlessness
-Diarrhea
-Fast heart beat
-Hallucinations
-Increased body temperature
-Loss of coordination
-Nausea
-Overactive reflexes
-Rapid changes in blood pressure
-Vomiting

Notice how these are all characteristic of increased anxiety - not decreased anxiety. The reason why people think that a stimulant drug causes them to "relax" is because taking the drug is the best way to relieve withdrawal symptoms.

Trust me, it isn't the nicotine that causes you to relax, it's the taking a break for 5 minutes at regular intervals every day that does it.


What does serotonin syndrome have to do with anything? You realize that is rather difficult to achieve with cigarettes, right? Now, if you dex every day for the next week -- enjoy your serotonin syndrome. But saying that you'll get those symptoms every time you smoke is just plain false. The fact that it modules dopamine causes pleasurable feelings, which itself is something that is relaxing, in the same way I'd say that I "relax" at an action movie or on a roller-coaster. Having your CNS slow down a bit is a rather shallow definition of relax.
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st1rn3r wrote:


Taedrin wrote:

Neither of which reduce anxiety or cause you to relax. Fortunately, nicotine doesn't actually increase dopamine and serotonin levels in your brain - it only increases your sensitivity to it. If it DID increase dopamine and serotonin levels, it would be more comparable to cocaine and methamphetamine - both of which increase dopamine and serotonin levels by preventing their uptake.

Symptoms of serotonin syndrome (too much serotonin):
-Agitation or restlessness
-Diarrhea
-Fast heart beat
-Hallucinations
-Increased body temperature
-Loss of coordination
-Nausea
-Overactive reflexes
-Rapid changes in blood pressure
-Vomiting

Notice how these are all characteristic of increased anxiety - not decreased anxiety. The reason why people think that a stimulant drug causes them to "relax" is because taking the drug is the best way to relieve withdrawal symptoms.

Trust me, it isn't the nicotine that causes you to relax, it's the taking a break for 5 minutes at regular intervals every day that does it.


What does serotonin syndrome have to do with anything? You realize that is rather difficult to achieve with cigarettes, right? Now, if you dex every day for the next week -- enjoy your serotonin syndrome. But saying that you'll get those symptoms every time you smoke is just plain false. The fact that it modules dopamine causes pleasurable feelings, which itself is something that is relaxing, in the same way I'd say that I "relax" at an action movie or on a roller-coaster. Having your CNS slow down a bit is a rather shallow definition of relax.


I apologize, I was not attempting to argue that you could get serotonin syndrome from smoking. I was merely trying to show that raising serotonin levels does the opposite of relaxing you. Just because a drug makes you feel good doesn't mean that it is causing you to relax or reduce anxiety. Likewise just because a drug makes you feel bad doesn't mean that it ISN'T causing you to relax or reduce anxiety (an example of this is Thorazine).
Posted 5/31/12
Yea I smoke. I started when i was 10 cause my gangster cousion gave me a weed smoke. ever since i would smoke cigarettes usually but not usual. yea i do smoke weed too
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Unless it's referring to a certain type of torture that uses the same acronym, I think this "CBT" is cognitive-behavioral therapy, a short-term structured therapy targeting specific conditions such as anxiety. I hope I can explain it OK and not lead you astray. It's supposed to work on the premise that a person sizes up a situation based on their thoughts and visual images, but those constructs or assumptions may be faulty, such as assuming "I will fail." The therapy hopes to correct these faulty automatic constructs by identifying and testing them. It is generally done by mental health professionals, may be individual or group therapy, and may or may not include a recommendation for medication. So you can't completely avoid the shrinks. And it frequently involves..."homework" (gasp). Some people do go at it alone using a manual like The Feeling Good Handbook that you can get at a regular bookstore. Just overlook the *cough* cheesy title.


Thank you very much.

The problem with shrinks is that each one has their own training and ideas on how to go about "treating" you. Still there are good ones ... that cost a lot of money. I wouldn't mind the homework at all to be honest.

I think I will check out that book .... never would have bought a book with that title tbh. lol

Anyways, thanks for taking the time to respond and help out a guy out that you don't even know.


as for the forum topic
Smoking was good for me while I was quitting ... other stuff ........ but I think now is a good time to quit. Still I do find it annoying when people go around sanctimoniously claiming how bad smoking is and then shove a burger down their throat LOL
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