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Chivalry, Valiance, and Gallantry
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Posted 6/11/12
I personally despise chivalry. I was raised to truly believe men and women are equal and deserve equal treatment. Not by my family, mind you, but that's how I was raised.

Around the 1700's and 1800's, I think it was, douchbags came up with the idea to actually treat women well, as opposed to treating them badly like they had for so, so very long. They made a game out of it. Respect for women has absolutely no place in chivalry as we know it. Worse yet, it ultimately just feeds the princess mental syndrome mentality that society readily seems to shove down the throats of most young women.

What's so bad about splitting the bill? What's so bad about regarding women as being equal to men? What's so bad about telling them to open their own damn car door and to stop being a self-entitled lazy prick?

I remember when I was on my third date with my old girlfriend that my sister, my mother, and her ALL got angry at me at the same time when I didn't open the car door for her. It was a totally foreign concept to me to behave in such a way, and I found that the three of them were incredibly disrespectful to me for no real reason.

Chivalry has left a bad taste in my mouth ever since.
Posted 6/11/12

Winterfells wrote:


NyuBoom wrote:

For example this guy sent my friends flowers every week in the beginning of the relationship. She actually didn't like it and thought of it as creepy. I thought it was nice but these days seeing anyone being constantly that way seems almost fake and we dismiss it as a guy trying too hard. Its kinda sad how things turned out this way isn't it? lol


The guys comes off as a bit eager, but it seems like he went above and beyond what was required of him in terms of treating a lady well. Sounds pretty judgmental of your friend to be honest. It's not something he had to do, but obviously he really liked her enough to put forth a lot of effort and money.

It's treatment like this that makes "sweet, nice" guys become jaded and bitter. Then women bemoan why the world is full of dicks and jerks.



Even for guys, if the woman isn't willing to put out they don't want anything to do with her in most cases.
So it can go both ways.
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Posted 6/11/12

NyuBoom wrote:


Winterfells wrote:


NyuBoom wrote:

For example this guy sent my friends flowers every week in the beginning of the relationship. She actually didn't like it and thought of it as creepy. I thought it was nice but these days seeing anyone being constantly that way seems almost fake and we dismiss it as a guy trying too hard. Its kinda sad how things turned out this way isn't it? lol


The guys comes off as a bit eager, but it seems like he went above and beyond what was required of him in terms of treating a lady well. Sounds pretty judgmental of your friend to be honest. It's not something he had to do, but obviously he really liked her enough to put forth a lot of effort and money.

It's treatment like this that makes "sweet, nice" guys become jaded and bitter. Then women bemoan why the world is full of dicks and jerks.



Even for guys, if the woman isn't willing to put out they don't want anything to do with her in most cases.
So it can go both ways.


Guilty as charged.
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I think of it as being a gentleman I try to treat those with respect. It's people that get offended by it that annoys me. I try to be nice, I will hold open the door for people and sure maybe I will pull out your seat for you, but when people are weirded out by it, I see that as rather selfish. It's denying a part of someones personality in the same exact way that you feel oppressed.

But there isn't anyone i give a flying crap about really that I would do anything chivalric for except for a few special cases out side of my family, so... (shrug)
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Chivalry is sexist now? WTF?
Posted 6/11/12
I feel it's attractive for both genders to be kind and well-mannered wherever they travel. I wouldn't say it's dead also, since there are probably guys who still practice it and/or teach it to their boys.
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I'm not exactly sure what chivalry would actually involve in a modern relationship.
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Pop Quiz, hotshot!

Anyone know what it means to "walk on the outside of her?"

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I think chivalry leaves a lot to say from a person. Some women might get freaked out by it while others might find it attractive. I, for one, can say that I treat every woman with respect and chivalry. Holding the door for them and paying whenever I go out with them is a good way of showing that chivalry. But I think most women expect men to do that already, and others could care less. Personally, I prefer the latter. Anyway, I think that there should be an appropriate level of chivalry in every men. Men should start with simple things and not go overboard. Of course, that is almost impossible to tell since every person thinks differently. Maybe the woman needs to study the man first if they feel freaked out or just talk to him about it. So I think chivalry is not completely dead; it just is somewhat common nowadays. Also, another thing is their cultural influence. Like for example, in Korea the woman is supposed to hold the door for the man. It's quite the opposite from here in the U.S.
Posted 6/11/12

Winterfells wrote:

Pop Quiz, hotshot!

Anyone know what it means to "walk on the outside of her?"

For 100 points.


It seems as though you would be referring to the idea that men should walk on the side of a woman that is between her and the street. It would just be a guess though.

As for the whole idea of chivalry...I will be respectful and nice if that is the kind of treatment I am getting in return. If a woman or anyone for that matter is rude and obnoxious then they are trash not worthy of my time. I do not make exceptions just because someone is female. I will also not go over the top with things like flowers all the time or opening car doors for them and such. I do however have the need to pay for all meals for women and pay for other things they want if I can afford it. I am not sure exactly why but if they pay or help pay it just makes me extremely uncomfortable.
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Winterfells wrote:

Pop Quiz, hotshot!

Anyone know what it means to "walk on the outside of her?"

For 100 points.


Isn't that the man should walk on the side/space between the woman and the street? I think if you do the opposite, it means like you're selling her or something. At least that's what I've heard.
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:


Winterfells wrote:

Pop Quiz, hotshot!

Anyone know what it means to "walk on the outside of her?"

For 100 points.


It seems as though you would be referring to the idea that men should walk on the side of a woman that is between her and the street. It would just be a guess though.


Ding ding! You got it right man.

I think it was an old practice. Back in the day, when roads were dirt and not concrete, it was common for people walking on the "outside" to get splashed with mud, so men commonly walked on the outside of the woman on the street to shield her.
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ChrisxDemon wrote:


Winterfells wrote:

Pop Quiz, hotshot!

Anyone know what it means to "walk on the outside of her?"

For 100 points.


Isn't that the man should walk on the side/space between the woman and the street? I think if you do the opposite, it means like you're selling her or something. At least that's what I've heard.


Hmm interesting, I hadn't heard of doing the opposite means you're selling her, but it would kind of make sense.
Posted 6/11/12

Winterfells wrote:


justanotherguy_2005 wrote:


Winterfells wrote:

Pop Quiz, hotshot!

Anyone know what it means to "walk on the outside of her?"

For 100 points.


It seems as though you would be referring to the idea that men should walk on the side of a woman that is between her and the street. It would just be a guess though.


Ding ding! You got it right man.

I think it was an old practice. Back in the day, when roads were dirt and not concrete, it was common for people walking on the "outside" to get splashed with mud, so men commonly walked on the outside of the woman on the street to shield her.


If I remember correctly women back then liked to be heavier because it was considered beautiful and showed that you were wealthy as well. I would think they would make for better shields. Not to mention it would just be a free mud bath for them.
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

If I remember correctly women back then liked to be heavier because it was considered beautiful and showed that you were wealthy as well. I would think they would make for better shields. Not to mention it would just be a free mud bath for them.


Well, when you put it that way...it sounds like a better idea.
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