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Getting rid of Gangs in America
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This is a topic ive been thinking about for awhile now. Ive done alot of research on the present gangs in America, or atleast the more prominent ones (I.E - Vice lords, Crip, Bloods, Black Peace stones, Latin Kings..etc) to seek out their original meanings..they all were originally formed with strong meanings and served for a good cause to help their communities.. but spiraled down after the leaders became criminals for what ever reasons. Now im sure most of you probably go to or went to public schools and you see kids throwing up gang signs and claim they belong to cliques and groups that in truth they have no idea what theyre in, they just following the foot steps of someone else - Because of that you have people killing, and fighting each other with little to no gain in the process, and more lost souls taking their place. Its a never ending cycle. I remember gang influence as far as when I was in the early grades of elementary and even kindergarten. Yep, Kindergarten..we was what.. 5..6 or 7? back then.

Me personally, I live now, in Belridge, St.louis MO, and its a cool neighborhood, quiet at times.. gun shots (the people here have a tendency for testing their weapons in the backwoods) every now and then , might see county police patrol maybe once or twice a week ..only problem? Its dominated by Bloods. :/ But ive associated with most folk over here thanks to family ties..and they know /I/ don't gang bang, and im not a part of that shit and honestly never will be, so I don't have any troubles if im walking around, but I still avoid wearing blue, gold, yellow, and several other colors.. Unless I have the car, then I wear what ever. and that sucks really, I have to limit and watch what kind of colors I wear to avoid any unintentional chaos from the people I don't know - esp at the metrolink station.. I watched a dude get beat down because he was wearing a shirt with a playboy bunny symbol on it (that symbol is recognized as the Vice Lords).. and he wasn't even part of a gang.. Just wearing the wrong thing in the wrong place noticed by the right people.. But for the most part, you don't mess with them or look for trouble, and you don't get in trouble. If you're a new face you will so very often be shouted at, or asked who do you belong too, and what you rep.. My best advice.. just shake your head keep walking and DO NOT LOOK DOWN at your feet or looked intimidated. As far as I can tell, the children will see this, and choose to believe its a lifestyle for them to live, and do it themselves. Sad.

I think we need more safety netting, and to label gang violence and membership as a act of terrorism. But, I leave for the airforce In november, so i'll be away from this shit for the next 20 or so years of my life. Its sad though to see, and to have watched as ive grown up.
Posted 6/15/12 , edited 6/15/12
Invest more in education and jobs. There's really no cheaper and more painless method. But it will take time, time they're already wasting.
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Well said man. And I do agree with you. They used to have a meaning. But now, it's just about.... "fitting in", I guess. It's supposed to be about brotherhood not some cliche meaningless crap.


Just wearing the wrong thing in the wrong place noticed by the right people.


I hate that. They act like they own the fucking place or something. It's like, they think they're better than everybody else and the whole fucking world owes them.
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The best advice I ever received was "Walk with confidence, be polite, and mind your own business and you can go anywhere." I've found that to be very helpful advice in life. Thugs get off on victimizing those smaller than themselves to feel bigger, so if you look confident, you won't be the target of thugs. If you're polite, you don't leave personal reasons for someone to attack you, and if you mind your own business, you don't create "professional" reasons for people to attack you.

It is civic virtue to take personal responsibility for one's community. Unfortunately, most people only know how to kneel or duck-and-cover. Without the citizenry being willing to stand up for themselves -- with force if necessary -- gang problems will not be removed so easily. Imagine if shop owners stopped selling food to those wearing gang colors. Imagine if mail didn't get delivered to crack houses. Imagine how difficult life would become if gas and power got turned off to known offenders. Imagine if pawn shops stopped buying stolen goods. Such a civilian reaction to gangs would make it very difficult for such groups to recruit new members. Gangs aren't irrational. Members may be easily swayed by the feelings of camaraderie or too uneducated to seek real work, but they wouldn't continue an action that there was no profit in. Not many people want to starve in the dark. If the citizenry stands up and removes the ability for gangs to profit, gangs will fade away. In the end, the people always have the power. Unfortunately, most people don't realize what power they have and such a coordinated effort will not likely ever take place.

I think the best way to reduce the gang problem is to reinstate the use of Letters of Reprisal. (http://www.progress.org/fold232.htm) . Give licenses to private citizens to go clean out hotspots of gang activity in exchange for a portion of whatever property is captured. Drug dealers like cash and other valuable items -- I'm sure there are some well-armed upstanding citizens willing to take it from them in exchange for cutting the government in on the loot.
Posted 6/15/12
i live in canada and there are some crips in montreal, but not alot of them so it doesn't matter what you wear here.I even once heard of a 9 year old kid who got beat up once because he was wearing a red shirt (bloods), now thats just messed up
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Posted 6/15/12 , edited 6/15/12
Mouse traps, with glocks as the bait.

Solved.
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Posted 6/15/12
I've never actually encountered a gang before. As for a solution, it seems like education and healthcare might help.

Or .. you could shoot back. But that never ends well ..
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Posted 6/16/12
Gangs and other underground organizations provide necessary resources for some of the lower-income neighborhoods. They are a necessary evil.
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Organized crime and senseless violence from gangs is two diff things. The latter isn't needed. The city I grew up in had a lot of gangs. Most of the gang related crimes and murders were coming from ppl between the ages of 18-25 who just had too much free time.

This one of the reasons I'm pro-gentrification.
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How many gangs are there in Sweden ? Norway ? Finland ? ........... If you provide good social security ( note - GOOD social security), free education, you will find that the concept you know as 'gang' vanishes before you can say 'vanish'.
Posted 6/16/12
Hey its a dog eating dog eating dog eating world, I don't think a problem like gangs which has gone by many names and forms throughout history could easily be solved overnight or even forever.
Posted 6/16/12
I think I've noticed gang activity/influences around 5th grade, but never Kindergarten, my word. o_0 I saw it in greater numbers in high school. Those ignorant boys thought they were big shots admitting they were apart of the Bloods and trying to recruit as many people as possible, including the children from other countries who didn't speak much English. My sister noticed the Blood/Crips feud at the school she attended years ago. She heard of a boy getting beat up for wearing the color red and he's not even in the Bloods. =T

What makes me scratch my head at gangs is one, how come those kids that joins/recruited do not see they're puppets that can be easily replaced and that their dreams of being a higher rank are just dreams. Two, why are you destroying your neighborhood and hurting other people over some inane and unimportant stuff? Why waste your life and time that you'll never get back doing such a thing that doesn't benefit you or the people around you? They have a brain and they're not even using it.

The world of gangs and their activities goes deeper than what most of us know anyway. The rich are a form of gangs in their own way to when you think about it. When it comes to Policemen and Politicians, they play a hand in it as well (in my opinion) since many of them have done little to nothing to break up that impudent population in certain neighborhoods. I remember one of those guys who were trying to be nominated for some title, promised to cut down the gang numbers and their actions, but never did.
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How about get rid of gangs all around the world? I'm sure not only America has gangs. x3
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Posted 6/16/12 , edited 6/16/12
St. Louis is a fun place to live is it not? Better than it was a couple of years back.
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Posted 6/16/12
Simple my compatriots. mass slaughter. Send elite tactical units into gang affiliated zones and kill em all. After the first couple they'd quiet down.
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