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Why don't people like fansubs?
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Posted 10/3/12
honestly, other than the fact that they are illegal, i do like fansubs. they usually add stuff that cr would never add "cultural notes" that the rest of the world wouldn't get. but yea im pretty much sticking with cr, gatta support the industry. and i love the 1080i.
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Posted 10/3/12
The need for them is admittedly much lower now, but they are still a necessary evil for older/obscure shows, as well as the occasional show that doesn't get a streaming release.

I certainly prefer streaming sites (like this one) when they are available, but if I wanted to watch, say, any of the World Masterpiece Theater shows, Future Boy Conan, later seasons of Precure and Doremi, Great Mazinger, Space Battleship Yamato, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Kaiji, and many other great shows, well, fansubs are basically the only option to watch it. Shows like this represent a lot of anime's history, and a lot if niches that simply won't sell. I'm very grateful that fansubs exist for these shows.

Also, legitimate streaming is a relatively recent phenomenon. It's easy to forget how limited one's options were for watching anime before then. Only so many shows would be licensed, they could take years to be released, and TV/rentals only had limited options. Remember waiting months on end to get disk 3 out of 6 from Netflix? More recently, I tried to find a place to rent Redline, a relatively big release, and was unable to find one.
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Posted 10/3/12 , edited 10/3/12
Madoka became famous cause of the subs (like Haruhi). Probably.

Yeah I appreciate them.
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Posted 10/4/12
and i just remember too that Crunchyroll started as a fansub streaming website back in its starting years, so ye fansubs has a great effect on promoting anime that even lead to a site like Crunchyroll that you can support the anime industry in a legal way
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Posted 10/4/12
People prefer Fansubs some don't. In my opinion, as long as I enjoy the anime I'm watching.. It's all good~ :"3
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Posted 10/12/12
01- Most of the time they translate it too literal to the point it gets awkward when read.
02- Flashy karaoke that you can't read.
03- Inconsistent names and terms. Especially when done by multiple groups.
04- They add foul language when there's no foul language to begin with just to say "anime is for adults because it's full of adult curses".
05- Annoying translation notes for cultural references or puns instead of adapting them or localize it.
06- The excuse of not translating words because they are "untranslatable" or "they'll lose their meaning if translated".
07- Not giving credit for the anime cast and instead they put "translator", "timer", etc. over the cast that actually worked on the anime.
08- The Fansub group logo that overshadows the the anime logo or title.
09- Inserting Japanese honorifics even if the setting is not Japan or even the real world.
10- The flashy jumpy fonts used for special attacks that you can barely read.

Now does that mean all fansubs are like this? No. There are groups that are as good as the official subs and they work on anime like professional translators and treat it with better respect than most of those armature translators who think leaving 75% of the script untranslated is the better way.
Posted 10/12/12
actually there are quite a lot of funsubbers i like...without fansub groups i wouldn't get to watch a lot of the anime that i do and have also seen...many times in blu-ray quality with better fonts than what would be on the dvd or blu-ray itself. not sure where some people are getting their subbed anime if it's anything like what the person ablove me described

most people don't like fansubbers for ethical reasons but that's another issue...i simply won't watch dubbed anime and i prefer my anime to be uncensored
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Posted 10/12/12
I have no problem with fansubbers and as others have said am grateful that they are there in cases where a series will never be made available through any other means for me to watch.
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Posted 10/12/12
The main reason is because they're killing the anime industry.
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19 / F / Louisiana
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Posted 10/12/12
I totally don't mind them.
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Posted 10/12/12 , edited 10/12/12
Modern fansubs are a dime a dozen. They helped pave the way for the industry as it is today and fansubs are sometimes even better than the commercial releases (example: Initial D).

The downside is fansubs also encourage leechers and piraters to go that route rather than support actual legal release.

Kind of why I like CR here, it's Legal.
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Posted 10/12/12
Well, I use Crunchyroll as a supplement to fansubs, as my university bans peer-to-peer file sharing networks.

For the most part, fansubbing translations are pretty accurate, with the occasional "trollsubs" from certain groups on certain shows. However, the best thing about them is definitely the video quality and library available. As much as I do like CR, their video quality leaves much to be desired. Their "1080p releases" are simply upscaled 720p TV rips. In fact, CR for the most part simply puts up completely unaltered TV rips while many subgroups take these same exact rips, clean them up, and even offer them in true 1080p quality. There are also clearly more shows available via subgroup downloads as well.

Now, I'm not trying to bag on CR or anything, since they have come a long way in some respects. Their translations are MUCH better than what they used to be, they are picking up a lot more shows per season, and they are also getting shows now that they didn't have previously (Dog Days S1 and Bakemonogatari for example). There's still the issue of video quality (Resolution, bitrate) and the amount of shows they don't get per season, but if they keep up the effort I don't see myself having to use subgroups as much in the future.
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Posted 10/12/12 , edited 10/12/12
I'm going to TL;DR my previous post... because it doesn't matter what anyone says, the people who believe fansubs are killing the industry etc are going to believe that no matter what, and I certainly don't intend to argue with anyone or even check this thread again... ever.... there are too many good "what age do you want your gf to be" threads out there to be posting in.

TL;DR... fansubs are the reason we have this site... one day they will be obsolete and that day is fast approaching, as long as you live in the US mainly.
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Posted 10/13/12

EvasiveAction wrote:
In fact, CR for the most part simply puts up completely unaltered TV rips while many subgroups take these same exact rips, clean them up, and even offer them in true 1080p quality.

Of course the only way those groups could offer "true" 1080p quality would be to do a rip from the Blu-ray disc, which rarely is issued until a series has finished airing.

Crunchyroll at least has access to the original material from the studio while the series is ongoing.

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Posted 10/14/12

Domayv wrote: The main reason is because they're killing the anime industry.

Its not clear that fansubs themselves are damaging.

What are clearly damaging are the bootleg anime streaming sites. They don't just stream series that are not available on legit sites and they don't just stream to countries that don't have licenses ... and they don't just stream fansubs.

They also (1) stream series that are available for free (2) to people in the country that have them for free on legit channels and (3) if they don't have a fansub, they'll just use the subtitles ripped off from the legit sites.

I don't see any real damage done by a fansub of a series that is not licensed for English language release, or downloaded by someone in Germany from a private tracker.

However, the legit streaming sites can only afford to pay low royalties per view, and need as many viewers as they can get in order to get more licenses to more countries. When the leech streaming sites divert viewers from the legit sites, they reduce the number of series that get a streaming license and the number of countries that they are licensed for.
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