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I never suggested any solutions or stated that it was possible to come up with one. Firstly I wasn't talking about the average person's greed, I more meant greed that causes people to kill or ruin people's lives for example weapon manufacturers, pharmaceutical companies, medical insurance companies. some examples of people manipulating people for their gain are: the American government convincing it's people that communism is so bad and you should hate communists ( I don't think communism is a viable option btw though nor do I think capitalism is the right way), rich land owners convincing people to hate the slaves for taking away their jobs rather than them for getting in slaves and using the fact that they were a different skin colour to rally people behind them. I realise that to have no suffering is completely impossible and even problems that humans have the capacity to fix such as extreme poverty, will probably never be fixed. Secondly I myself believe that education is the only way make things better though reaching the amount of people to make any change is difficult. Just to reiterate I was merely saying it is a shame so many have to suffer.
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I never suggested any solutions or stated that it was possible to come up with one. Firstly I wasn't talking about the average person's greed, I more meant greed that causes people to kill or ruin people's lives for example weapon manufacturers, pharmaceutical companies, medical insurance companies. some examples of people manipulating people for their gain are: the American government convincing it's people that communism is so bad and you should hate communists ( I don't think communism is a viable option btw though nor do I think capitalism is the right way), rich land owners convincing people to hate the slaves for taking away their jobs rather than them for getting in slaves and using the fact that they were a different skin colour to rally people behind them. I realise that to have no suffering is completely impossible and even problems that humans have the capacity to fix such as extreme poverty, will probably never be fixed. Secondly I myself believe that education is the only way make things better though reaching the amount of people to make any change is difficult. Just to reiterate I was merely saying it is a shame so many have to suffer.


I'm glad we agree on the same educational approach. And... Yes. I understood the rhetorical uselessness of your original statement, I agreed with the sentiment, it was heartfelt. But it's in my nature to give your suggestion due consideration for the sake of conversation, and also because you contradicted my assertion.

I wish it was possible to curtail the same greed and selfishness found in all men, which springs to life when they reach positions of power. Perhaps best elucidated by the adage "power corrupts," it is a historical and present day reality as our genetic profile hasn't changed for over a hundred thousand years. We're greedy by nature because we have to feed ourselves. I'm not even sure if it's possible to remove such an ingrained factor without destroying the species.

As you pointed out, the problems with industry and government aren't the result of a few people being bad, it's the result of all people expressing the same kind of human nature. So the idea that we could curtail it by targeting a few people "acting out," is still utterly impossible, unworkable and unethical. You can't infringe on people's rights until they've broken the law. We can't attack the corrupt people you're describing because they haven't broken the law as it stands. You're not making a worthwhile suggestion, or statement. But, I still agree with the overall sentiment. It's just beyond impractical and bordering on delusional to even imagine it as a possibility. Still, daydreams are a lot more fun than pragmatism, so I can't fault you there either. I agree. I wish I had a magic lamp to make it happen.
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Been a while since I cried, does watching "The Boy in Striped Pajamas" count as weird to cry to?


I wish it was possible to curtail the same greed and selfishness found in all men


That is an idiotic statement. Not all men are greedy and selfish
Posted 9/5/12
This isn't weird..
But...

READ:

Her hair was up in a ponytail, her favorite dress tied with a bow. Today was Daddy's Day at school, and she couldn't wait to go. <br /><br /> But her mommy tried to tell her, that she probably should stay home. Why the kids might not understand, if she went to school alone. <br /><br /> But she was not afraid; she knew just what to say. What to tell her classmates of why he wasn't there today. <br /><br /> But still her mother worried, for her to face this day alone. And that was why once again, she tried to keep her daughter home. <br /><br /> But the little girl went to school, eager to tell them all. About a dad she never sees, a dad who never calls. <br /><br /> There were daddies along the wall in back, for everyone too meet. Children were squirming impatiently, anxious in their seats. <br /><br /> One by one the teacher called, a student from the class to introduce her daddy. As seconds slowly passed, at last the teacher called her name, every child turned to stare. <br /><br />Each of them was searching, for a man who wasn't there. 'Where's her daddy at?' she heard a boy call out. 'She probably doesn't have one,' another student dared to shout. <br /><br />And from somewhere near the back, she heard a daddy say, 'Looks like another deadbeat dad, too busy too waste his day.' The words did not offend her, as she smiled up at her Mom. <br /><br />And looked back at her teacher, who told her to go on. And with hands behind her back, slowly she began too speak. <br /><br />And out from the mouth of a child, came words incredibly unique. 'My daddy couldn't be here, because he lives so far away. But I know he wishes he could be, since this is such a special day. <br /><br />And though you cannot meet him, I wanted you to know. All about my daddy, and how much he loves me so. <br /><br />He loved to tell me stories, he taught me to ride my bike. He surprised me with pink roses, he taught me how to fly a kite. <br /><br />We used to share fudge sundaes, and ice cream in a cone. And though you cannot see him, I'm not standing here alone. 'Cause my daddy's always with me, even though we are apart.<br /><br /> I know because he told me, he'd forever be in my heart.' With that her little hand reached up, and lay across her chest. Feeling her own heart beat, beneath her favorite dress. <br /><br />And from somewhere in the crowd of dads, her mother stood in tears. Proudly watching her daughter, who was wise beyond her years. <br /><br />For she stood up for the love of a man not in her life. Doing what was best for her, doing what was right. <br /><br />And when she dropped her hand back down, staring straight into the crowd, she finished with a voice so soft, but its message clear and loud. <br /><br />'I love my daddy very much, he's my shining star. And if he could he'd be here, but Heaven's just too far! <br /><br />You see he was a fireman and died just this past year. When airplanes hit the towers, and taught Americans to fear. 'But sometimes when I close my eyes, its like he never went away.' <br /><br />And then she closed her eyes, and saw him there that day. And to her mother's amazement, she witnessed with surprise. <br /><br />A room full of daddy's and children, all starting to close their eyes. Who knows what they saw before them, who knows what they felt inside. <br /><br />Perhaps for merely a second, they saw him at her side. 'I know your with me daddy,' to the silence she called out. <br /><br />And what happened next made believers, of those once filled with doubt. Not one in that room could explain it, for each of their eyes had been closed. <br /><br />But there on the desk beside her, was a fragrant long-stemmed pink rose. And a child was blessed, if only for a moment, by the love of her shining star. <br /><br />And given the gift of believing, that: Heaven is never too far.
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Seeing Initial D completely slaughtered for the U.S. release.
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That was a great read, Candy, didn't make me cry, but wonderful none the less
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I'm glad we agree on the same educational approach. And... Yes. I understood the rhetorical uselessness of your original statement, I agreed with the sentiment, it was heartfelt. But it's in my nature to give your suggestion due consideration for the sake of conversation, and also because you contradicted my assertion.

I wish it was possible to curtail the same greed and selfishness found in all men, which springs to life when they reach positions of power. Perhaps best elucidated by the adage "power corrupts," it is a historical and present day reality as our genetic profile hasn't changed for over a hundred thousand years. We're greedy by nature because we have to feed ourselves. I'm not even sure if it's possible to remove such an ingrained factor without destroying the species.

As you pointed out, the problems with industry and government aren't the result of a few people being bad, it's the result of all people expressing the same kind of human nature. So the idea that we could curtail it by targeting a few people "acting out," is still utterly impossible, unworkable and unethical. You can't infringe on people's rights until they've broken the law. We can't attack the corrupt people you're describing because they haven't broken the law as it stands. You're not making a worthwhile suggestion, or statement. But, I still agree with the overall sentiment. It's just beyond impractical and bordering on delusional to even imagine it as a possibility. Still, daydreams are a lot more fun than pragmatism, so I can't fault you there either. I agree. I wish I had a magic lamp to make it happen.
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personally I don't think all people have that level of greed as there are plenty of people that would sacrifice their life for a loved one and in some cases even a stranger, but there are also people that will sacrifice others for gain.

Big organisations are constantly breaking "laws" but money speaks so to speak. Also laws can infringe on people's rights especially as a lot of laws that still stand today are based on christian values (in the west) and even in a democracy people still don't have a real say in what laws get passed.
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If anyone yells at me angrily.
I just start tearing up so bad.
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Last few minutes of Naruto Shippuden's Episode 249...never fails
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This is going to be kind of strange, but...

Background music for piano (accompaniments) that they usually have everywhere here in Japan. I don't know why, but the tunes always make me sad, even if their original counterpart does not.
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When people praise me, or say they like me. I don't really understand why, it's like I feel "unworthy" of love. I'm usually so mean to everyone that stuff like that just catches me off guard.
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Hmm I don't really cry about weird stuff so umm.
I cry on the inside when I try to do a new 1RM but FAIL
"Max out in a certain workout squat,deadlift,bench,clean"
Makes me feel all week and then I give up working out for the day.
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quaser666 wrote:
personally I don't think all people have that level of greed as there are plenty of people that would sacrifice their life for a loved one and in some cases even a stranger, but there are also people that will sacrifice others for gain.

Big organisations are constantly breaking "laws" but money speaks so to speak. Also laws can infringe on people's rights especially as a lot of laws that still stand today are based on christian values (in the west) and even in a democracy people still don't have a real say in what laws get passed.


Ohhhh, well in that case you are simply just deeply confused as to the human condition. We are all greedy by nature, if we weren't then the old adage "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" wouldn't have such universal purchase. Also, we don't draw the majority of our laws from "christian values" that isn't even a well defined concept much less a historical source for U.S. law. But the new fundamentalist movement is indeed doing its best to change that, that's undeniable, however things like prop8 still got shot down as unconstitutional, so aside from a few obscenity laws, they don't have much of a batting average for sticking their biblical garbage into our legal rationales.

As to your observations, as I said, there are some docile cows we could select if we wanted to breed a race of simpeltons, but they couldn't survive with any of the rest of us still alive on planet earth. Actually I'm not even sure if they could survive on their own either. For that matter, even if they did survive, chances are they'd eventually breed a normal person who would rule over them all like a king and whose line of descendants would wipe such pacifists out and inherit the earth.

Also, don't get confused between barely functional people who are genetically disposed to be selfless, from those who are far different but equally selfless. The otherwise functional but deluded people who live their lives in ways that might give one the feeling that they are above such pettiness, aren't without it, they're just suppressing it. These are never the people who lead us. These are never the entrepreneurs. These are not the go getters who would ever rise to the level of CEO, instead they're almost always just some poor deluded fool drawing lifestyle choices from some religious dogma, or other, to the point that they're more focused on their imaginary next life than this one. You can tell the difference by talking to them, the latter group always thinks of their selflessness self righteously. The genetically disposed group is in comparison often drooling on itself, so they're usually super easy to spot.
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quaser666 wrote:
personally I don't think all people have that level of greed as there are plenty of people that would sacrifice their life for a loved one and in some cases even a stranger, but there are also people that will sacrifice others for gain.

Big organisations are constantly breaking "laws" but money speaks so to speak. Also laws can infringe on people's rights especially as a lot of laws that still stand today are based on christian values (in the west) and even in a democracy people still don't have a real say in what laws get passed.


I failed to explain the why part... I only focused on how. Please forgive me and allow me elaborate. The things you named are the direct result of a lack of education.

Selfishness is a good thing, it motivates us, but unless it is tempered with advanced knowledge, the individual will fail to be selfish in the best ways. It's a good thing to act on behalf of your family, but it is far better to work on behalf of your neighborhood. It's a good thing to act on behalf of your nation, but it is far better to work on behalf of the world. I'm deeply selfishly motivated to save other people, that's why I volunteer as fire rescue, and I'm deeply selfishly motivated to educate young people too. But why? Simple. Because I know that doing these things will improve my world. At a minimum it keeps the property values of my neighborhood up, and keeps gangs from forming out of uneducated and disenfranchised youth, not to mention the long term implications of having half-burned, smoke inhalation damaged people on disability, or having local businesses driven out by high crime.

I'm deeply selfishly motivated to invent new chemicals, because I know new medicines won't be possible if I don't and it might be my family, or my loved ones, or even myself that I save. I'm deeply selfishly motivated to create new life-changing products, because I know the positivity of the end result and I want them for myself as much as I want to make a buck. I get credit, and acolades, and a feeling of pride, and at the same time I build a better future for all of us. People who have not spent the time to absorb the knowledge of our ancient ancestors are vulnerable to propaganda and a kind of self-defeating self-centeredness which poisons the wells of the individual's own community and sickens his own offspring. These are not things which dogma teaches us, these are the results of higher education alone. To simply go after people's base emotions is a fundamentally bankrupt assault.

It is best to guide the flames of our hellish engines in positive directions than attempt to put them out.

You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free. I can only live well, if I ensure that you live well. These are not biblical, or otherwise dogmatic attacks on emotional motivations, they aren't meaningless platitudes about what is good & evil... They consider far more than that. The great minds of history show us how the snake eats its own tail when it thinks such muddled thoughts. Please don't think like that. Expand your understanding of reality and embrace the things which superstition says are bad. Superstition is delusion, it sows confusion and is the greatest source of pain and suffering in our world.
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