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OMG. EXACTLY THE SAME. I HATE BEING HUMAN.
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personally I don't think all people have that level of greed as there are plenty of people that would sacrifice their life for a loved one and in some cases even a stranger, but there are also people that will sacrifice others for gain.

Big organisations are constantly breaking "laws" but money speaks so to speak. Also laws can infringe on people's rights especially as a lot of laws that still stand today are based on christian values (in the west) and even in a democracy people still don't have a real say in what laws get passed.


I failed to explain the why part... I only focused on how. Please forgive me and allow me elaborate. The things you named are the direct result of a lack of education.

Selfishness is a good thing, it motivates us, but unless it is tempered with advanced knowledge, the individual will fail to be selfish in the best ways. It's a good thing to act on behalf of your family, but it is far better to work on behalf of your neighborhood. It's a good thing to act on behalf of your nation, but it is far better to work on behalf of the world. I'm deeply selfishly motivated to save other people, that's why I volunteer as fire rescue, and I'm deeply selfishly motivated to educate young people too. But why? Simple. Because I know that doing these things will improve my world. At a minimum it keeps the property values of my neighborhood up, and keeps gangs from forming out of uneducated and disenfranchised youth, not to mention the long term implications of having half-burned, smoke inhalation damaged people on disability, or having local businesses driven out by high crime.

I'm deeply selfishly motivated to invent new chemicals, because I know new medicines won't be possible if I don't and it might be my family, or my loved ones, or even myself that I save. I'm deeply selfishly motivated to create new life-changing products, because I know the positivity of the end result and I want them for myself as much as I want to make a buck. I get credit, and acolades, and a feeling of pride, and at the same time I build a better future for all of us. People who have not spent the time to absorb the knowledge of our ancient ancestors are vulnerable to propaganda and a kind of self-defeating self-centeredness which poisons the wells of the individual's own community and sickens his own offspring. These are not things which dogma teaches us, these are the results of higher education alone. To simply go after people's base emotions is a fundamentally bankrupt assault.

It is best to guide the flames of our hellish engines in positive directions than attempt to put them out.

You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free. I can only live well, if I ensure that you live well. These are not biblical, or otherwise dogmatic attacks on emotional motivations, they aren't meaningless platitudes about what is good & evil... They consider far more than that. The great minds of history show us how the snake eats its own tail when it thinks such muddled thoughts. Please don't think like that. Expand your understanding of reality and embrace the things which superstition says are bad. Superstition is delusion, it sows confusion and is the greatest source of pain and suffering in our world.


i agree with parts of what you've said but again i wasn't talking about selfishness as a base emotion but selfishness that harms others. Also you're implying that humans only ever act out of selfishness, so would you not do something for anyone without some gain for yourself? I have done good things for people that they don't know about it and gained nothing from it. It's impossible for humans to act soley on one of their traits as humans have conflicting traits and while it is true that all people have some things in common, people are different from eachother. fear is another base emotion but some people have very little fear while others have a lot.
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quaser666 wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


quaser666 wrote:
personally I don't think all people have that level of greed as there are plenty of people that would sacrifice their life for a loved one and in some cases even a stranger, but there are also people that will sacrifice others for gain.

Big organisations are constantly breaking "laws" but money speaks so to speak. Also laws can infringe on people's rights especially as a lot of laws that still stand today are based on christian values (in the west) and even in a democracy people still don't have a real say in what laws get passed.


I failed to explain the why part... I only focused on how. Please forgive me and allow me elaborate. The things you named are the direct result of a lack of education.

Selfishness is a good thing, it motivates us, but unless it is tempered with advanced knowledge, the individual will fail to be selfish in the best ways. It's a good thing to act on behalf of your family, but it is far better to work on behalf of your neighborhood. It's a good thing to act on behalf of your nation, but it is far better to work on behalf of the world. I'm deeply selfishly motivated to save other people, that's why I volunteer as fire rescue, and I'm deeply selfishly motivated to educate young people too. But why? Simple. Because I know that doing these things will improve my world. At a minimum it keeps the property values of my neighborhood up, and keeps gangs from forming out of uneducated and disenfranchised youth, not to mention the long term implications of having half-burned, smoke inhalation damaged people on disability, or having local businesses driven out by high crime.

I'm deeply selfishly motivated to invent new chemicals, because I know new medicines won't be possible if I don't and it might be my family, or my loved ones, or even myself that I save. I'm deeply selfishly motivated to create new life-changing products, because I know the positivity of the end result and I want them for myself as much as I want to make a buck. I get credit, and acolades, and a feeling of pride, and at the same time I build a better future for all of us. People who have not spent the time to absorb the knowledge of our ancient ancestors are vulnerable to propaganda and a kind of self-defeating self-centeredness which poisons the wells of the individual's own community and sickens his own offspring. These are not things which dogma teaches us, these are the results of higher education alone. To simply go after people's base emotions is a fundamentally bankrupt assault.

It is best to guide the flames of our hellish engines in positive directions than attempt to put them out.

You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free. I can only live well, if I ensure that you live well. These are not biblical, or otherwise dogmatic attacks on emotional motivations, they aren't meaningless platitudes about what is good & evil... They consider far more than that. The great minds of history show us how the snake eats its own tail when it thinks such muddled thoughts. Please don't think like that. Expand your understanding of reality and embrace the things which superstition says are bad. Superstition is delusion, it sows confusion and is the greatest source of pain and suffering in our world.


i agree with parts of what you've said but again i wasn't talking about selfishness as a base emotion but selfishness that harms others. Also you're implying that humans only ever act out of selfishness, so would you not do something for anyone without some gain for yourself? I have done good things for people that they don't know about it and gained nothing from it. It's impossible for humans to act soley on one of their traits as humans have conflicting traits and while it is true that all people have some things in common, people are different from eachother. fear is another base emotion but some people have very little fear while others have a lot.


My dear, everything I do to improve my fellow man, improves my world.

My assertion is that it is impossible to avoid coming to precisely that conclusion, otherwise all the greatest thinkers from all of history wouldn't have converged on the same point. The philosophies of deep thinkers bring us together, the dogma of deluded charlatans set us apart.

If we really wanted to solve the problems with corrupt government and industry, we'd fight for free university education for all. An educated populace is impossible to sucker. An educated population rejoices in enlightenment and even from the deepest darkness drives the demons of superstition out. We are in a world where less than 1% of the population has a PhD. We are in a world, where a fraction of the population looks at the rest and feels the pain of separation at the same time they feel the deepest of connections to all the great men of the past. Dragging everyone kicking and screaming into the future has not done us any favors. Their barbarism and ignorant bigotry is just as potent as before, only now they're armed with the power of the atom. If we can't bring their minds forward in time, out of the stone ages, they're going to continue to run amuck. For all we know, our generation might be the last.
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i cry when i see cats or hear really beautiful music
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AshRandom wrote:


My dear, everything I do to improve my fellow man, improves my world.

My assertion is that it is impossible to avoid coming to precisely that conclusion, otherwise all the greatest thinkers from all of history wouldn't have converged on the same point. The philosophies of deep thinkers bring us together, the dogma of deluded charlatans set us apart.

If we really wanted to solve the problems with corrupt government and industry, we'd fight for free university education for all. An educated populace is impossible to sucker. An educated population rejoices in enlightenment and even from the deepest darkness drives the demons of superstition out. We are in a world where less than 1% of the population has a PhD. We are in a world, where a fraction of the population looks at the rest and feels the pain of separation at the same time they feel the deepest of connections to all the great men of the past. Dragging everyone kicking and screaming into the future has not done us any favors. Their barbarism and ignorant bigotry is just as potent as before, only now they're armed with the power of the atom. If we can't bring their minds forward in time, out of the stone ages, they're going to continue to run amuck. For all we know, our generation might be the last.


but selfishness is based on intention even if it improves your world helping somebody isn't necessarily a selfish act. Part of the problem is these corrupt governments restrict education purposefully for fear of relinquishing control once the masses become enlightened.
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quaser666 wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


My dear, everything I do to improve my fellow man, improves my world.

My assertion is that it is impossible to avoid coming to precisely that conclusion, otherwise all the greatest thinkers from all of history wouldn't have converged on the same point. The philosophies of deep thinkers bring us together, the dogma of deluded charlatans set us apart.

If we really wanted to solve the problems with corrupt government and industry, we'd fight for free university education for all. An educated populace is impossible to sucker. An educated population rejoices in enlightenment and even from the deepest darkness drives the demons of superstition out. We are in a world where less than 1% of the population has a PhD. We are in a world, where a fraction of the population looks at the rest and feels the pain of separation at the same time they feel the deepest of connections to all the great men of the past. Dragging everyone kicking and screaming into the future has not done us any favors. Their barbarism and ignorant bigotry is just as potent as before, only now they're armed with the power of the atom. If we can't bring their minds forward in time, out of the stone ages, they're going to continue to run amuck. For all we know, our generation might be the last.


but selfishness is based on intention even if it improves your world helping somebody isn't necessarily a selfish act. Part of the problem is these corrupt governments restrict education purposefully for fear of relinquishing control once the masses become enlightened.


Yep, it's called the manufacture of consent for a reason. It's their business plan.

They know that when educated, nothing can stop the power of the people.

Either way, look -- every single thing you do is self motivated, unless perhaps you've got a gun to your head, but even then if you do it because you want to preserve yourself, it's selfish. Whether you're conscious of it or not, everything you do has selfish motivations. Making a "thought-crime" out of a subconscious emotion is no way to go about trying to control it. Nor should we even try to stop an unstoppable engine. Don't think shaming yourself or others is going to turn off the single most powerful impulse animals have. It's a fruitless venture, and the chastising of greed is just one of the brainwashing tools used by religion to abuse and extort people. Relinquish this superstition.

You know, it's not the only emotion they misuse to extort people, take pride for instance. It's a force for good in an enlightened mind. If a man doesn't care about awards, honors, respect and decoration -- why would he strive to earn it? If a community isn't proud of its neighborhood, what could motivate them to beautify it? Making "thought-crimes" out of emotions we can't avoid, seriously? And you don't see this for what it is? It's an underhanded trick used by con artists, not a method of improving people's character.
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i cry hearing i will always love you by whitney houston
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I dont know why but when i watch tv for a long time

i suddenly start crying i dont know why but the tears suddenly come
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I cried while watching Dumbo



HE'S NAME IS JUMBO ! ! ! they called him DUMBO ! ! !
Posted 9/6/12
I cry when I see things that are just too damn cute to be alive. It used to endear me to my ex's who were all animal lovers at heart but I never ever ever ever heard the end of it from my guy friends. I think my man card is officially still a few points low the last time I got misty eyed over a new born kitten I saw at the animal shelter I used to volunteer at. That was 2 years ago where I met my last ex GF.
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i cry hearing i will always love you by whitney houston


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Mass effect 3. when
.. brought a tear to my eye. it was pretty depressing actually.
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sometimes when i sing along to songs i know really well i'll start crying. not like real, sniffing and gasping crying, but just like tears going down your cheek.
weird, i know. and i like it that way~
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AshRandom wrote:


Yep, it's called the manufacture of consent for a reason. It's their business plan.

They know that when educated, nothing can stop the power of the people.

Either way, look -- every single thing you do is self motivated, unless perhaps you've got a gun to your head, but even then if you do it because you want to preserve yourself, it's selfish. Whether you're conscious of it or not, everything you do has selfish motivations. Making a "thought-crime" out of a subconscious emotion is no way to go about trying to control it. Nor should we even try to stop an unstoppable engine. Don't think shaming yourself or others is going to turn off the single most powerful impulse animals have. It's a fruitless venture, and the chastising of greed is just one of the brainwashing tools used by religion to abuse and extort people. Relinquish this superstition.

You know, it's not the only emotion they misuse to extort people, take pride for instance. It's a force for good in an enlightened mind. If a man doesn't care about awards, honors, respect and decoration -- why would he strive to earn it? If a community isn't proud of its neighborhood, what could motivate them to beautify it? Making "thought-crimes" out of emotions we can't avoid, seriously? And you don't see this for what it is? It's an underhanded trick used by con artists, not a method of improving people's character.


I'm not saying it's "wrong" to be selfish and we should all be selfless machines, I'm saying people shouldn't kill and make people suffer. I still don't believe that everything people do is self motivated otherwise there would be nobody that would sacrifice their life for others as our most basic instinct is to preserve our own life.
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I start to cry whenever I have a hilarious thought in my head. Kinda unusual.
I even start to cry (occasionally) when I am busy with something. Must be the fumes from my work.
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