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Thoughts on people downloading Anime without giving a dam about the industry?
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Posted 6/25/12
Who gives a shit, i like how the US is not making Anime super popular. Besides most good Anime not on CR is easily torrentable/downloadable, so its easier for the person.
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Posted 6/25/12
I stream but I buy a lot of (fucking expensive) merchandise. Am I a demon :/?
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Posted 6/26/12

volcan_98 wrote:

@Tashfinz - I think most of the people who are downloading anime don't see themselves as doing anything wrong, sadly. It doesn't click that their actions could impact others. But I think they are a minority.


I wish I could say this were the minority, but sadly, I don't think that's the case. In an era where DVD (and Blu-Ray) sales are falling, but con attendance is up, it only points to more fans who must be stealing the stuff, via torrents or direct downloads. I believe that sites like here at Crunchyroll are helping to swing the pendulum back toward having more people actually supporting the industry; even the free streamers, while they don't pay money, they pay time- in the ads- which still generates revenue from the ad purchaser. I'm not privvy to the internal numbers, but I'd hazard a guess that after paying the serving costs, there's not much left on a per-episode basis from the ad income. But something, even if it's just a nickel, is infinitely better than those leeches not contributing anything.
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Posted 6/26/12
Illegal downloads and streams steal audience from legitimate anime providers like CR. Like dunno001 said, more audience gather at right place, more advertisement money flows in to support the costs associated with anime production. It's not that difficult to understand how illegal downloads and streams steal audience.

Speaking of production, it costs $100,000 to $300,000 budget to make one anime episode. Yes, one episodes. If you divide that budget among 50 people equally for 3 month production time, each person gets an average of...

$100,000~$300,000 ÷ 50 people ÷ 3 months = $666~$2000 per month. Smaller the budget, more difficult to make living.

Let's say that 10 million people illegally downloaded popular anime episode from torrent site. Does ad money associated with the torrent site goes to original copyright owners? The answer is no. It goes whoever hosted the site.

@Folks at England,
It's sad that UK fans can't get streaming access easily. Hopefully someone in UK creates legal site equivalent to CR soon.

@Zanga,
People care about anime because it speaks for them in unique way. Young people can emphasize with characters in anime while it entertains them.

@KleinerSkollexxx
If you buy legit merchandise, then that's awesome. It's the people who abuse downloads for personal gain is bad. Personal gain as in making money off from high number of site visits.
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Posted 6/26/12
Would you have a problem with it if you downloaded anime because you dont have the money to buy it legally?
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Posted 6/26/12
With the amount I watch I'd be in debt for just watching TV if I didn't use my CR membership, Hulu and torrent. I buy DVD's for about a quarter of the anime I watch. Shows not total episodes. Can you imagine buying all of One Piece, Bleach, Naruto, Yu-Gi-Oh, and so many 40 episode shows?
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Posted 6/26/12 , edited 6/26/12

arilando wrote:

Would you have a problem with it if you downloaded anime because you dont have the money to buy it legally?


Well you really don't need anime to survive it is a luxury item. That's like saying I can't afford that diamond ring but if I had the opportunity to take one out of a shipment it should be fine they have plenty of them

Posted 6/26/12 , edited 6/26/12


I think most of the people who are downloading anime don't see themselves as doing anything wrong, sadly. It doesn't click that their actions could impact others. But I think they are a minority.


That's probably because copyright is sparsely enforced, and laws that can only be sporadically enforced tend to have that effect, people do not seem to see it as breaking law or doing something wrong but more along the lines of bad luck when they're caught and not others doing the same thing. Traffic tickets are the same way. Of course there are those who know and don't care.









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Posted 6/26/12

arilando wrote:

Would you have a problem with it if you downloaded anime because you dont have the money to buy it legally?


The problem with that argument is that many people who use it actually can afford to buy anime, but choose not to. They claim to be poor, but at the same time they have an iPhone, iPad, new laptop, etc. They choose to buy overpriced products that they don't really need, instead of paying for anime that they are supposedly a fan of. These people can easily afford to buy anime, but instead choose not to because they see it as something that they can get for free.

There are some people who legitimately don't have much money left at the end of the month, but some of those actually can also afford to buy anime. It's just a case of budgeting and not being stupid with money. If you're poor you should be trying to save money as much as you can. You shouldn't go into a shop and buy a game at full price when you could easily buy it online for 40% off. That's just stupid, especially if money is tight.

There are also some who legitimately can't afford to buy entertainment goods though, but only a small number of the people who use the argument are those people.
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