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Nerve Gear is completely infeasible as a technology. Sensory deprivation is a dangerous thing, and tapping directly into one's central nervous system even moreso. Let alone health risks involved in the technology, you have to consider how vulnerable you would be in such a state. With a complete loss of your CNS, you're forfeiting everything all sense of self, including pain receptors. Literally anyone who comes by could do whatever the hell they want to your body and you'd be none the wiser.

Even if the technology exists, good luck passing safety standards and then managing to find a market for it.

I can see perhaps some kind of incubation pod deal like an arcade; where you pay for an hour in advance and then are sealed in under employee supervision, almost like a lifehuard. However, that's about as far as it gets in the near future. No personal alternate dimension headsets.
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this is why it's an anime/light novel....-,- the same could be said for many other controversial subjective animes/manga/story lines such as battle royale, deadman wonderland, etc.
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Obviously it's a stretch and every Anime, regardless of setting, fails to follow real world logic to a T.

My post is directed to those immediately above it who are demanding/working toward real-world technology that emulates SAO's Nerve Gear.

Please pay attention to context before criticizing in the future. Kthxbai
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What I am looking forward to is the advancement of technology, It is without a doubt that the Nerve Gear is definitely something that is dangerous. I'm not looking to build something that dangerous, the technology and how it should be executed is still up for many consideration. Yeah people can basically do whatever they want to you while your on the Nerve Gear, but people can pretty much do whatever they want to you while your asleep on the bed as well. Marketing something like this will not take much effort, people now a days are all about what is new, just look at all the Iphone's we have now. It will be a controversy, but even now gaming in general is still considered a controversy.

If you are going to just look at the negative side, then let me point out some positive sides

- People in coma's can be communicated with/cured
- People who are not able to walk will be able to walk
- People who are unable to see will be able to see
- People who are deaf will be able to hear

You can't just always look on the negative side of things, if you do; well you'll just be stuck in the same place not having tried anything new.
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Nerve Gear is completely infeasible as a technology. Sensory deprivation is a dangerous thing, and tapping directly into one's central nervous system even moreso. Let alone health risks involved in the technology, you have to consider how vulnerable you would be in such a state. With a complete loss of your CNS, you're forfeiting everything all sense of self, including pain receptors. Literally anyone who comes by could do whatever the hell they want to your body and you'd be none the wiser.

Even if the technology exists, good luck passing safety standards and then managing to find a market for it.

I can see perhaps some kind of incubation pod deal like an arcade; where you pay for an hour in advance and then are sealed in under employee supervision, almost like a lifehuard. However, that's about as far as it gets in the near future. No personal alternate dimension headsets.


Actually, a lot of it is far easier than you would think. Sensory deprivation isn't much different than what we experience every night when we sleep, with only slight subconscious ideas about what we sense in reality coming through. There really aren't many health risks without a physical implant, since human nerves are just electrical signals and our brains already have a way to differentiate between voluntary and involuntary actions.

Yes, they could, but then again if you are engrossed in pretty much anything someone can walk up behind you and do something to you. Yes you would know in that case, but that doesn't matter much when they just stabbed you, etc. It is a degree more vulnerable, but that is why you only use it where you feel safe.

Finding a market? Easy, half the audience of this show would kill for it, some even with the whole "kills you" part intact, it isn't memory alteration, but it lets you do things you can never do, and experience things you could never experience first hand.

They could do that, but why would they? Much easier to sell it in mass to the consumer with a disclaiming stating they are not responsible for any harm that comes to you while using it (that is not directly caused by it- and that last part only because they have to).

Nothing in the real world would be the same, of course, but there is no reason for most of the main points to not happen, simply because it is just outside our current reach, once we know a bit more about how the brain functions everything else is a matter of putting together tech we already have in a viable way. And something like this would get a lot of funding, not because of games, but because a virtual environment is the perfect training grounds for... anything. You can feel like you are physically experiencing things, and get the same reactions in your body, without any of the real risk or real costs involved.
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All of your complaints are addressed. Some have already been, but only in the novel.

The beta-testers didn't have enough time to reach the end game content. And the end-game would be too revealing so I'm sure the GM's made it impossible at the time anyways.
The pain thing they don't mention, but the novel does. They're not suppose to feel pain, but their brains see their body getting hurt and add it in anyways. Also, there's a fatigue system which is why they get tired.

About the hack thing, I forget exactly but they do mention it later (probably 2 episodes from now). It's not really a spoiler. He just mentions that there was some fail-safe if they were hacked and everyone in the server would die.

Later on it actually gets closer to Ghost in a Shell then .hack, so keep that in mind. A lot of people have already mentioned that the animators are FLYING through the story. It's not just that, Volume 2 (which are side stories of volume 1) are already in the anime.

You'll learn about the food thing, I'm interested in how the anime will portray it, because with the novel it's easy to just write out. As a hint: the nerve gear has a back up battery that will allow no power for 2 hours before it fries your brain so the body can be moved.



Before I go into spoilers you have to realize 2 things.
First, SWO was the first VRMMORPG so the beta-testing doesn't have the follow the rules of general mmorpgs. The pain thing is probably for suspense, the author doesn't bother with a lot of description in the first place.
Which leads me to my second comment, it's a light novel. It's only suppose to be 120 pages and generally a lot of descriptive writing isn't able to fit in. In the author's note he mentioned that he wasn't able to find a publisher because he didn't want to cut out anything so he posted it online for free.

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They didn't mention a rating system. Which is odd because japanese porn is required to blur women's lady-bits.

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SWORD ART ONLINE! KYA!! O/////O
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The "pain" is a mental creation, sow hen Kirito knew there was no risk involved, such as that time those 7 attacked him, he felt nothing except probably some numbness he simply ignored. But as the situation gets riskier his subconscious causes the pain to register as "real".
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episode 11 just develop more the marriage XD
Posted 9/15/12
Looks like SAO episode 11 is out, gonna watch it tomorrow although i'm going to bed now first. Night

I still think this anime would've been great if they just had a higher budget, more focus on the frontlines and replace Asuna with Lisbeth.
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Ahhh~ things start getting pretty exciting after episode 11 :3 The light novels are pretty good! I recommend reading them the only downside would be you won't be as excited waiting for the next episode to air.

The reason why the anime doesn't go into depth as much as it should is because the light novels don't either >_< the novels are pretty fast paced too and the anime does a pretty good job of following the novels. Props to them!
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Episode 11



Slow episode with some action at the end. And speaking of ending, that is a strange one with Yui there.



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So anyone have any clue how they're going to stretch this into a 24 episode anime? I've read most of the light novels now, and with the pace they've blown through the first and second ones I only see the main story and the rest of the Yui storyline taking up till ep 17 or maybe 18 if they stretch it more then they have been. They can either add in fillers (which may or may not suck), use an anime ending rather than follow the light novels (which would be a big let down I'd think), or they could try and push into the next 2 light novels and that whole story (which I don't think would be possible with only 24 episodes of anime). If I had to choose between the three, I'd have to say fillers I guess, as I'd rather they just take the time and put out a second season if they felt like continuing into the next light novel grouping.
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So anyone have any clue how they're going to stretch this into a 24 episode anime? I've read most of the light novels now, and with the pace they've blown through the first and second ones I only see the main story and the rest of the Yui storyline taking up till ep 17 or maybe 18 if they stretch it more then they have been. They can either add in fillers (which may or may not suck), use an anime ending rather than follow the light novels (which would be a big let down I'd think), or they could try and push into the next 2 light novels and that whole story (which I don't think would be possible with only 24 episodes of anime). If I had to choose between the three, I'd have to say fillers I guess, as I'd rather they just take the time and put out a second season if they felt like continuing into the next light novel grouping. :huh:


well as discussed earlier in the thread, it would seem like they are gonna make volume 3+4 within the 24 episodes...
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Episode 11.

Slow and boring episode.
The 2 episodes before this one were simply amazing though.




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