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Episodes that have already aired don't need spoilers. The preview for next episode is another matter though since it's not aired on the broadcast.

(Note: this information is not specifically spelled out in the novel, inference only) Kayaba is the 100th floor boss so when he dropped his immortal status he switched from player to boss mode. Part of the boss encounter is that characters killed during the fight won't be automatically terminated, so if the final raid of 50 people on the 100th floor managed to defeat him but only 10 characters were left standing, all 50 players would still survive. This is evidenced by the fact that Asuna, Kirito, and Kayaba were all teleported to the 'cloud level' so he could have his final words to the raid that defeated him.

As for the impossible deux ex machina actions Kayaba programmed in an "over-assist system" which allows a player to go beyond the normal limits of the system. He had to use this to win the duel against Kirito before his health went yellow and triggered immortal status. The reason why Kayaba was shocked is because Asuna tapped into that system by sheer force of will to cancel the paralysis, and Kirito did the same thing to regain control of his avatar post-[You Are Dead] but prior to shattering. In a way, you could think of it as a hack, or cheat, or an exploit, but the ability to do it was put into the game by its creator, he simply didn't expect there to be another method to access it (See World of Warcraft mass server killings that happened recently for a current gaming example)

I do wish they had extended the 14 episodes into 20, because they did have to trim out a lot of details and game mechanics to cram the desired chapters into single episodes. But then that also encourages people to buy and read the novel for more background.
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Perhaps the details of how Asuna and Kirito did what they did, and why Kirito is still alive, and Asuna too presumably, since she was there after the final battle and was praised as one of the players that beat the game by Kayaba, will be explained in the next episode? If not, it is a flaw in the anime. It is nice that it is explained more in the book, but that doesn't excuse the anime for skipping details and leaving it as a "magical" occurrence. It isn't like they couldn't have done it in a voice over while he hobbled down the hallway looking for his girlfriend! (I half expected that it had to do with Yui, or something Kirito gleaned while hacking the GM system in order to save Yui's heart, or core programming really.)

Regardless of whether they correct the error of omission in the future episodes, this was a very good episode, with plenty of plot twists and some nice action scenes. I had figured out that there was something fishy about the guild commander, but not that he was Kayaba. I loved the revelation of the reason for Kirito's double-wielding ability, and the fact that, despite the cruel, twisted manner in which the game was created, Kirito was essentially correct: the system was inherently fair. Kayaba did not make a game that would unfairly punish the players and make it impossible to win, just very, very hard. The fact that, in his duel with the guild commander (why can't I remember the player-name of the guild commander now? I just can't think of hiim as anything other than the real identity!) the game seemed to do something that was unfair made a great starting point for Kirito putting two and two together to come up with the solution. That part, at least, was well written.
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Zen, it was never explained, but it is a case of will overriding system limitations, in other words it is a case of Aincrad reacting like a real world, where will can, to an extent, override what is possible, for a short time.

The Author's other work, Accel world, and the most recent SAO arc, Alicization, make it a bit clearer, basically the system responded to their overwhelming will and gave way to it. It isn't strong enough to make them or immortal, or to simply delete Heathcliff, but it let them do things that would normally be impossible by system limits, yet in reality might just be possible through sheer will. This was, in fact, the purpose of Aincrad, which is why he smiled in the end. His own system was surpassed, his world became real, and that was what he always was after, or at least part of it.

That can happen due to a, I suppose you could say, fault in the nerve gear. If someone believe something hard enough, then the nerve gear gets confused. Cardinal naturally tries to correct this, and falls in line with the players point of view to an extent. Asuna knew she would not be stopped from saving Kirito, and so she wasn't. Kirito didn't care he was dead, that just made him angrier, he was going to end the game and kill Heathcliff for killing Asuna, and that was that.
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theory: i think the cause of asuna breaking her paralysis is something like that "incarnate system" thing on accel world, same as kirito when his HP is already out,

that scene kirito breaking into fragments is like his imagination like "is it going to end like that" scenario, he didnt came back to life, he is just dont want to give up yet,, then that "incarnate system",

and i also dont forget the CARDINAL system of SAO, its a evolving system

and that deus ex machina scene, kayaba talk to them and congratulate them, kayaba said that "someone broke the law of his world" and the two who broke that rule is asuna and kirito, you see that Heathcliff when he was going to stab by kirito, he smile, it means kirito fulfill his objective, you'll see in the end of ALO arc what i mean, also after that arc and after those arc,...
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After thinking about it, even if you dont know Asuna lives, it's pretty obvious that she would simply because both of them were sitting on that shelf in the sky. That struck me as something like an end credits scene. You won the game, so you get to see the world dissolve around you.

What I am trying to say is, I don't think going to that little shelf in the sky is something that other people who died got to do. When they died, they just got a black screen and then flat-lined.
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Love the series, but the ending left a hole in me. Can't quite sum it up. I just wasn't satisfied. I haven't read the novels yet though.
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After thinking about it, even if you dont know Asuna lives, it's pretty obvious that she would simply because both of them were sitting on that shelf in the sky. That struck me as something like an end credits scene. You won the game, so you get to see the world dissolve around you.

What I am trying to say is, I don't think going to that little shelf in the sky is something that other people who died got to do. When they died, they just got a black screen and then flat-lined.


I agree to that. Its to obvious. BUT! there is still that smalll tiny unsure feeling the anime gives you . So right now at this point she could be dead OR she could have survived but being in that state for so long could kill her when she wakes. SOO!! look at that bacon sizzle for abit.
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Love the series, but the ending left a hole in me. Can't quite sum it up. I just wasn't satisfied. I haven't read the novels yet though.


Ohhs noes! That feeling should be fixed and all that jazz on the next episode :3 There are things that need to be answered first. I am expecting someone to die tho. Asuna or Kirito Due to their body condition. And they gave a hint to the watched that player where doing because of the hospitalization there bodies dieing off from all that.
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Kingrager wrote:

Love the series, but the ending left a hole in me. Can't quite sum it up. I just wasn't satisfied. I haven't read the novels yet though.


Ohhs noes! That feeling should be fixed and all that jazz on the next episode :3 There are things that need to be answered first. I am expecting someone to die tho. Asuna or Kirito Due to their body condition. And they gave a hint to the watched that player where doing because of the hospitalization there bodies dieing off from all that.


That's good. I didn't even check Crunchyroll, i just figured this was the last one of the season. I'm glad, I just don't know where the series is going to go from here.
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Kingrager wrote:

Love the series, but the ending left a hole in me. Can't quite sum it up. I just wasn't satisfied. I haven't read the novels yet though.


Read the light novels they are better than the anime. I love the anime but the light novels just go into more detail. I do think that maybe the story could have been longer but it was originally written for a contest but even then it was too long so he published on the web. This next arc is good as well, I don't think you will be disappointed.
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I hope so. I have been away from Anime for a long time, but this show got me back in. I can't wait to see more, and i look forward to picking up the light novels.
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Kingrager wrote:


BlueBerryPancakes wrote:


Kingrager wrote:

Love the series, but the ending left a hole in me. Can't quite sum it up. I just wasn't satisfied. I haven't read the novels yet though.


Ohhs noes! That feeling should be fixed and all that jazz on the next episode :3 There are things that need to be answered first. I am expecting someone to die tho. Asuna or Kirito Due to their body condition. And they gave a hint to the watched that player where doing because of the hospitalization there bodies dieing off from all that.


That's good. I didn't even check Crunchyroll, i just figured this was the last one of the season. I'm glad, I just don't know where the series is going to go from here.

I bet its going to fall out into another game. But this time they are a couple maybe even married in real life. But to be honest it feels like there will be tottaly different characters and the story of Kirito and Asuna ends after this. And a new setting happens in a game world. But if they do that then the anime become crap. Its like I came down there and pooped on it kinda crap. So Lets just hope the story moves on with there love story and all that jazz.
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woohoo the new character designs for the new arc !!!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/08/sword-art-online-fairy-dance-arc-character-designs-revealed

and I am going to cosplay for this one instead


anyway your bet is on the money BlueBERRY PancaK but it continues the story and you will know the reason why
and the new Op and Ed previews shows a lot of the next episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdFlcgX-08&feature=player_embedded
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did anyone else totally guess who the last boss was in SAO. I felt like they made it soooo obvious when kirito and "the guild leader" deual. It was not a surprise for me at all when they showed who the last boss was.
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iashakezula wrote:

woohoo the new character designs for the new arc !!!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/08/sword-art-online-fairy-dance-arc-character-designs-revealed

and I am going to cosplay for this one instead


anyway your bet is on the money BlueBERRY PancaK but it continues the story and you will know the reason why
and the new Op and Ed previews shows a lot of the next episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdFlcgX-08&feature=player_embedded


BAh I shouldnt have watched it. NOO!!!! tho after working up a brain storm I kinda figured those guys would be alive... dam... I hate ruining things for myself. But awesome!! Tho I wish i still didnt see it. I love the suspencion of not knowing if your theory is correct until it happens and you see it and then your just like ohh yeah!You get the "" I tottaly knew that was gona happen feeling"". Kinda like when you do some really cool thing like catch somthing before it falls on the ground and you feel so ninja about it you cant help but gloat to yourself but you somtimes wish people where around to see that Boss move you just did! Aahh!!! the sensation of all that is so rockin! LOVE IT! but this is fine too. I hated the fact I was peeling my eyes out at this other anime I just watched-.-..........Yaoi isnt my thing.. Thats the Last time I take a recommendation.. I might try again in the near future but comon -.- give a guy a warning...about it before he journeys off in to the unknown. I still predicted the love triangle but I hated the ending(the story was ok tho) GAWD!!!!!! No.6 -.-..........................


Anyways back on topic. The deal with this new arc now that theory I had about the next arc was right... then Asuna is chillin with kirito -.- I have some other thoughts now. WHY GO BACK IN A GAME AFTER ....caps off ......after crying about living in the real world and say I want babies and
I wana live in and grow old with you... and not to mention they spent 2 years in a game. So now they say .....Hey asuna... Yes Kirito ? Lets play another game now.. ...hmm..OK! Tho of course my thoughts on it right now is nothing more that dust for I have no more evidence on the new arc matter. There as you said before. must be a perfectly good reason to doit again. But it better not be the same reason.... ohh..noo noo noo..I dont like finding the loop in the anime. If I do I tend to become bord of it because I kinda start picking at it. So none the less Ill just have to wait and see. But I am excited to see the love story kick off alittle longer.(was hoping for a death) but I guess I could chill without it. Ohh but if everyone in that game did actually survive then(which still I am not sure but by the looks of it seems true but I wont no for sure yet)))

.. LOL!! that couple in episode 5 and 6 the husband well lets just say he is not going to be married when he gets off that game. LOL!! sutch a screw up in that. I hate when the guy freaks out and dose somthing so stupid he ends up ruining his life. And always the wife is mad beautiful. so lol lol and more lol I cant wait to see this all blossom. So me the goods baby!!
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