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I get sick of hearing people whining about Suguha to be honest. I get it, you dont like her. Stop bringing it up in ever single comment, please. And I am not talking about anyone in particular, so dont get your knickers in a twist if you think Im talking about you. ;)


Yay if you like or even true wuv Suga. Doesn't mean those of us that don't, should not allowed to speak of it. Discussions often (and even hopefully) contain opposing opinions.
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I am glad this series is keeping so well to the light novel, at some points it almost seems to be word for word and the same for the actions.
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I just got Volume One! <3
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Yay if you like or even true wuv Suga. Doesn't mean those of us that don't, should not allowed to speak of it. Discussions often (and even hopefully) contain opposing opinions.


It's one thing to dislike a character, a show, or an entire genre for that matter, and carry on a discussion about it...but I find there's a greater amount of vitriol in this case, however. That kind of hate doesn't really foster discussion, but arguments. I'll take well reasoned arguments (even emotional ones, if well thought out) over "I hate this character, and everyone who likes him/her is stupid." type arguments. I saw an episode comment defending Suguha's reaction, and the first response to it was along the lines of, "So, you support incest?"

(Fact: 26 U.S. states have legalized marriage between first cousins. Six of those have specific conditions under which it is legal.) It may be taboo to many of us - I know I wouldn't want to marry one of my cousins - but before in the U.S. yells "WTF, Japan?" they should note that they have a decent chance of living in a state where it's legal.
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i just watched epi 22 and im impressed that girl that isnt his sister and knew it for 2 years didnt notice the tells from her {brother} sooner ...

as for her charecter in the show its a great supporting part


im looking forward to the next epi with great shagrin and getting the popcorn and soda ready !!!
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ChronicSmile wrote:

Yay if you like or even true wuv Suga. Doesn't mean those of us that don't, should not allowed to speak of it. Discussions often (and even hopefully) contain opposing opinions.


It's one thing to dislike a character, a show, or an entire genre for that matter, and carry on a discussion about it...but I find there's a greater amount of vitriol in this case, however. That kind of hate doesn't really foster discussion, but arguments. I'll take well reasoned arguments (even emotional ones, if well thought out) over "I hate this character, and everyone who likes him/her is stupid." type arguments. I saw an episode comment defending Suguha's reaction, and the first response to it was along the lines of, "So, you support incest?"

(Fact: 26 U.S. states have legalized marriage between first cousins. Six of those have specific conditions under which it is legal.) It may be taboo to many of us - I know I wouldn't want to marry one of my cousins - but before in the U.S. yells "WTF, Japan?" they should note that they have a decent chance of living in a state where it's legal.


My objection was more with being told, however indirectly, not to state an opinion in an opinion discussion. Personally, I don't harbor the kind of vitriol to which you refer, but I know that others do. My reasons for disliking Sugu aren't really even about her feelings for her bro/cuz. :P. I just find her grating, and i said as much. Still, if some or many are repulsed by the "incest" elements, (note that I never even referred to it) then that's to be expected with such a hot topic, one considered vey tabu in many cultures. Personally I also find it unappealing. But even more so I found the sighing, moping mooning and bed-flopping that Sugu does even less palatable, which is what prompted my own response to the above-referenced Sugu defense posts. :). I merely sought to point out that it's a little unrealistic to demand or expect that people cease and desist stating their conflicting opinions in a thread such as this.
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ChronicSmile wrote:


Spazticus wrote:


ChronicSmile wrote:

Yay if you like or even true wuv Suga. Doesn't mean those of us that don't, should not allowed to speak of it. Discussions often (and even hopefully) contain opposing opinions.


It's one thing to dislike a character, a show, or an entire genre for that matter, and carry on a discussion about it...but I find there's a greater amount of vitriol in this case, however. That kind of hate doesn't really foster discussion, but arguments. I'll take well reasoned arguments (even emotional ones, if well thought out) over "I hate this character, and everyone who likes him/her is stupid." type arguments. I saw an episode comment defending Suguha's reaction, and the first response to it was along the lines of, "So, you support incest?"

(Fact: 26 U.S. states have legalized marriage between first cousins. Six of those have specific conditions under which it is legal.) It may be taboo to many of us - I know I wouldn't want to marry one of my cousins - but before in the U.S. yells "WTF, Japan?" they should note that they have a decent chance of living in a state where it's legal.


My objection was more with being told, however indirectly, not to state an opinion in an opinion discussion. Personally, I don't harbor the kind of vitriol to which you refer, but I know that others do. My reasons for disliking Sugu aren't really even about her feelings for her bro/cuz. :P. I just find her grating, and i said as much. Still, if some or many are repulsed by the "incest" elements, (note that I never even referred to it) then that's to be expected with such a hot topic, one considered vey tabu in many cultures. Personally I also find it unappealing. But even more so I found the sighing, moping mooning and bed-flopping that Sugu does even less palatable, which is what prompted my own response to the above-referenced Sugu defense posts. :). I merely sought to point out that it's a little unrealistic to demand or expect that people cease and desist stating their conflicting opinions in a thread such as this.


I respect your opinion, and I apologize if it seemed I was directing that at you specifically. That was not my intention - I was agreeing with you about carrying on discussions; I just prefer people to be civil about it. The rest of my response was more of a general one, and the vitriolic comments I have seen have mostly been in the episode comments, and in one of the other SAO-related threads. I want more discussion, and less arguing.
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Since there's a dedicated hate thread now for the show (which is ridiculous), I don't know why people can't just relegate their criticism to that.

For a site that runs rampant with blatant fanboyism for what is quite often very mediocre anime, it is rather strange and annoying to slog through the same hate posts from the same people every day in regards to SAO. Some people are even admittedly watching it just for something to complain about, which I have a hard time wrapping my head around.

I guess when it comes to popular things, haters gonna hate.
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what is going on here... I just left to work on my Kirito Alfheim cosplay outfit and we got some heated discussions about Suguha chan?

...ooops my reply is too late ..

anyway i have noticed that too.

I can't figure that one out too for peeps to watch a show only to bash it. I was starting to do that with Shin Sekai Yori , so i stopped watching it all together, that anime was driving me nuts .I just cant get into the characters and the story was all over the place.

but I do feel the adaptation of this anime could have been better especially during the Aincrad arc , if they didnt rush that arc then the transistion to the Alfheim arc would have been better for a lot of folks. But overall I really liked this animea lot. I believe it was their focus on the main characters that got me hooked. If I dont connect with the characters , then i get bored with the show and I like the story too


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I still really want to continue liking this show though. I think I when you get to the point that you are bashing a show you watch, it's because you are disappointed in it. It makes you feel let down. I admit I don't love the direction SOA has taken, but the first part really captured my imagination in spite of a few flaws, so I want to keep supporting it. Aincrad just seemed so much more vivid and exciting. I miss the other characters. :3.
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You're doing a Kirito cosplay? That's pretty cool. Are you going to post pictures when you're finished?
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I will when its done at cosplay.com site

I am using my Full Metal Alchemist uniform design as the basis . Still working on the top but i am already thinking about that damm sword , its too big.

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Yeah it's like a Final Fantasy sword
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Posted 12/1/12 , edited 12/1/12
indeed lol

I sure hope I finish this one this month
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Spazticus wrote:


ChronicSmile wrote:


Spazticus wrote:


ChronicSmile wrote:

Yay if you like or even true wuv Suga. Doesn't mean those of us that don't, should not allowed to speak of it. Discussions often (and even hopefully) contain opposing opinions.


It's one thing to dislike a character, a show, or an entire genre for that matter, and carry on a discussion about it...but I find there's a greater amount of vitriol in this case, however. That kind of hate doesn't really foster discussion, but arguments. I'll take well reasoned arguments (even emotional ones, if well thought out) over "I hate this character, and everyone who likes him/her is stupid." type arguments. I saw an episode comment defending Suguha's reaction, and the first response to it was along the lines of, "So, you support incest?"

(Fact: 26 U.S. states have legalized marriage between first cousins. Six of those have specific conditions under which it is legal.) It may be taboo to many of us - I know I wouldn't want to marry one of my cousins - but before in the U.S. yells "WTF, Japan?" they should note that they have a decent chance of living in a state where it's legal.


My objection was more with being told, however indirectly, not to state an opinion in an opinion discussion. Personally, I don't harbor the kind of vitriol to which you refer, but I know that others do. My reasons for disliking Sugu aren't really even about her feelings for her bro/cuz. :P. I just find her grating, and i said as much. Still, if some or many are repulsed by the "incest" elements, (note that I never even referred to it) then that's to be expected with such a hot topic, one considered vey tabu in many cultures. Personally I also find it unappealing. But even more so I found the sighing, moping mooning and bed-flopping that Sugu does even less palatable, which is what prompted my own response to the above-referenced Sugu defense posts. :). I merely sought to point out that it's a little unrealistic to demand or expect that people cease and desist stating their conflicting opinions in a thread such as this.


I respect your opinion, and I apologize if it seemed I was directing that at you specifically. That was not my intention - I was agreeing with you about carrying on discussions; I just prefer people to be civil about it. The rest of my response was more of a general one, and the vitriolic comments I have seen have mostly been in the episode comments, and in one of the other SAO-related threads. I want more discussion, and less arguing.


No worries or need to apologize, at all! I usually don't even bother posting in discussion threads like these because I've got such a low tolerance for those ragey tirades you see all over, full of poorly worded, inflammatory op's. I was already on here though, posting my issue in support about CR constantly spanking my PS3 into a black screen, so I was checking out the forum. Your responses didn't offend in the least.
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