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Yes, I agree with those views and I do like that he found out that he wasn't invincible but I still think that they went over board with the harem king situation they I can imagine 1-2 girls falling in love with him but four girls I mean come on.also in the alo situation I can see him gettin frustrated but when he kinda dies he doent have to be so serious about it I mean learn from your mistake dont get all depressed overall how he reacts to"death"in alo is abit exaggerated but I mean you can expect that from anime Those are just some of my opinions I won't stop enjoying sao And I still agree with the general population about sword art being awesome but just wanted to say why sao is overrated ,I appoligize if my post implied that sword art online is not awesome
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Yes, I agree with those views and I do like that he found out that he wasn't invincible but I still think that they went over board with the harem king situation they I can imagine 1-2 girls falling in love with him but four girls I mean come on.also in the alo situation I can see him gettin frustrated but when he kinda dies he doent have to be so serious about it I mean learn from your mistake dont get all depressed overall how he reacts to"death"in alo is abit exaggerated but I mean you can expect that from anime Those are just some of my opinions I won't stop enjoying sao And I still agree with the general population about sword art being awesome but just wanted to say why sao is overrated ,I appoligize if my post implied that sword art online is not awesome
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cartoonchris wrote:
in the alo situation I can see him gettin frustrated but when he kinda dies he doent have to be so serious about it I mean learn from your mistake dont get all depressed overall how he reacts to"death"in alo is abit exaggerated but I mean you can expect that from anime


Given that he has a limited amount of time to save the woman he loves, and that he doesn't have the additional time to work his way back from a death penalty, he's now in a slightly worse position to save her. That's the reason why he's so determined to not die. If he didn't have the span of a week to save her, the death issue probably wouldn't be one...and the story would need something else to give it a sense of urgency.
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Since he relies so much on plot-armour, Gary Stue powers and Deus Ex Machina.


examples?


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Oh and the Harem Lure, which makes every female character with a name fall for Kirito.


not all of them do. just the ones who will later become main characters. except for Yui. and Sinon. which makes a whole of 4, and Sugu gives up on him. I do have to admit though, it's kinda dumb how it was worked that all those girls fall for him. even Kawahara-sensei admitted it was a mistake.


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Plus I feel like Kirito has so much potential, abilities he can use and he just squanders those abilities in favour of battle rage. In SAO it wasn't that noticeable, since he relied on his sword no matter what there. But in ALfheim he has so many illusions he can cast, to help him in combat - his race is even the weakest in combat! And yet, he time and time again prefers brutal attacks & Gary Stueing over finesse and smart manoeuvres.


there's a bit of misunderstanding on your part here. spriggans aren't the weakest in combat, they're the weakest with COMBAT MAGIC since they're focused on illusion and scouting. also, Kirito is what would be classified as a berserker. he loses himself to his combat instincts. can't remember if it was mentioned in the anime, but it's mentioned a few times in the LNs. after the battle in the lugru corridor, Kirito tells Lyfa how he can't remember what happens when he fights because he often blacks out during battle. it's also mentioned how he did something similar during the battle with Laughing Coffin in SAO, something that wasn't talked about in the anime yet.

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there's also a bit about the combat dynamics of ALO that are omitted from the anime that helps explain how Kirito is so strong right from the start, even with trash gear. the way it's explained how the combat works is that it's not only the parameters of the equipment that determine attack/defense, but also your reaction speed and neural connection speed. as was pointed out by Heathcliff, the reason why Kirito was chosen to have the dual blades unique skill, which he had created to give to the hero who he thought was going to defeat him, was because among all SAO players, he had the fastest reaction speed and neural connection. this explains why he was able to kill the salamanders in episode 16 & 17 with one hit, and how he was able to defeat Eugene.
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I know Kirito and Sugu are not really siblings, but they were raised that way. Even tho she started seeing him as not her "real" brother i find it weird for her to be "in love wit him." Personally, brother/sister just isn't my thing. She even said that he was mean until he woke up, which gave her only a few months of him being nice for her to say she's in love with him. I think she might just be severly confused. Maybe she grew to care for him while going to visit him in the hospital or something? Regardless of how her feelings may have developed, if I were Kirito I'd feel really awkward. That's my only qualm about the series tho. That and the fact that he can fuck shit up with a starter weapon, which I assume should be rather shitty unless Alfheim gives really good starters for some reason
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That and the fact that he can fuck shit up with a starter weapon, which I assume should be rather shitty unless Alfheim gives really good starters for some reason


That's because melee damage isn't just based solely on equipment, but reaction speed, momentum, and so on. Since those parameters were already so high for him during and after SAO, it'd be like giving starter equipment to a level 99 character in another game. The base stats are still going to be much higher than any starting player could be, and that's where the damage potential comes from. Granted, there are no levels per se, but the analogy works in this case.
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akerk7 wrote:
That and the fact that he can fuck shit up with a starter weapon, which I assume should be rather shitty unless Alfheim gives really good starters for some reason


That's because melee damage isn't just based solely on equipment, but reaction speed, momentum, and so on. Since those parameters were already so high for him during and after SAO, it'd be like giving starter equipment to a level 99 character in another game. The base stats are still going to be much higher than any starting player could be, and that's where the damage potential comes from. Granted, there are no levels per se, but the analogy works in this case.


actually, he was level 96.......

sorry
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That males sense, thanks! Why wouldn't the starter weapon break when it comes under the pressure of a stronger weapon, though? In my perception of MMO's weak weapons can break, but my perception of someone who doesn't play games like this so I may be misinformed. Are starters made with high endurance? That's the only thing holding me up with the weapon issue now
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Spazticus wrote:


akerk7 wrote:
That and the fact that he can fuck shit up with a starter weapon, which I assume should be rather shitty unless Alfheim gives really good starters for some reason


That's because melee damage isn't just based solely on equipment, but reaction speed, momentum, and so on. Since those parameters were already so high for him during and after SAO, it'd be like giving starter equipment to a level 99 character in another game. The base stats are still going to be much higher than any starting player could be, and that's where the damage potential comes from. Granted, there are no levels per se, but the analogy works in this case.


actually, he was level 96.......

sorry


Haha!


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That males sense, thanks! Why wouldn't the starter weapon break when it comes under the pressure of a stronger weapon, though? In my perception of MMO's weak weapons can break, but my perception of someone who doesn't play games like this so I may be misinformed. Are starters made with high endurance? That's the only thing holding me up with the weapon issue now


In many of the games I've played, the starter equipment often has plenty of durability, but its other stats are quite weak. That's the incentive to replace it as soon as possible. It can still be repaired in town, under most circumstances.
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Marked this as a spoiler for everyone who hasn't watched the newest episode yet. It is also funny that Leafa does not question Kirito's high stats even though he knows nothing about the game like someone that took the time to level up would.
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akerk7 wrote:

That males sense, thanks! Why wouldn't the starter weapon break when it comes under the pressure of a stronger weapon, though? In my perception of MMO's weak weapons can break, but my perception of someone who doesn't play games like this so I may be misinformed. Are starters made with high endurance? That's the only thing holding me up with the weapon issue now


In many of the games I've played, the starter equipment often has plenty of durability, but its other stats are quite weak. That's the incentive to replace it as soon as possible. It can still be repaired in town, under most circumstances.


Ahh okay I see, thanks a bunch you've been very helpful! :D

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I think it (Sugu and Kazuto/Kirito) was handled really well, it could have got horribly awkward and disturbing, but it was handled tastefully and made for a really great episode along with the cool fight scene.
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About damn time she found the truth. I'm not surprised at her reactions to it either considering the circumstances and all that drama. Now, I'm wondering what sort of role that card Asuna threw from the sky will play in the future. She's still trapped like a helpless little bird in a cage.

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the_song_of_anime wrote:

I read the light novels a somewhat long time ago. I think the anime is missing a big chunk of the story. If you've read the light novel here's what I mean:





The place they fell into was removed for lack of time. presumably if they need to show the Calibur Side story in the future they would have the original incident presented in a flashback.


But that's my favorite part. They wasted a lot of time with this arc. The SWO arc happened to quickly
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About damn time she found the truth. I'm not surprised at her reactions to it either considering the circumstances and all that drama. Now, I'm wondering what sort of role that card Asuna threw from the sky will play in the future. She's still trapped like a helpless little bird in a cage.



ok me being somewhat of a computer nerd i know what that card is and how its going to play a vital role. But seriously i don't see how she can be into Kirito like that. i mean they're cousins right? i just don't get how that works
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