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seanohara wrote: And you know, people do have different tastes. Let's say CR could've acquired PsychoPass if they hadn't spent money on Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun ...

Its not like Crunchyroll got the series by shopping at a bazaar, with a fixed number of gold shekels in their purse, and had to choose between Psycho-Pass and Little Monsters.

Funimation wanted Psycho-Pass, Funimation is a home video distributor, Funimation has released a reasonable number of noitaminA titles on home video in the past year, so Funimation got Psycho-Pass.

Of course, Crunchyroll expressed an interest in Psycho-Pass, but when Funimation decided to go for it, with their status as a home video distributor and with their history with FujiTV and the noitaminA block, that was about all she wrote.

Clearly, no home video distributor was interested up front in licensing Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun (My Little Monster). That's going to be the case with the majority of series each season, since only a minority will be able to refund the cost of a DVD or BluRay release. So the production committee accepted Crunchyroll's bid. They can still hope that as the season progresses, it will perform well enough to attract interest later, and having the demographics on the streaming audience will make it easier to sell. And if it does reasonably well, it will cover its Minimum Guarantee and generate a little bit of extra pocket change to boot.
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TotalPotato wrote:

So, uh... Anime On Demand have put the first episode of To Love-Ru Darkness up, but not the first episode of Magi...


Looks like whatever went on with TAN and the Japanese licensor got resolved, or the Japanese licensor just gave AoD the green light.

I at least hope this is a sign that TAN will start streaming those TBS shows if they are still able to.
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TotalPotato wrote:

So, uh... Anime On Demand have put the first episode of To Love-Ru Darkness up, but not the first episode of Magi...

Thanks for the info. Per their Twitter feed, Magi is to go up early Thursday morning.

I am hoping that is a one time schedule slip, as they had it scheduled for 6:00 PM GMT today. Since AoD doesn't appear to list their schedules on their site, I am uncertain how reliable they will be in adhering to any announced schedule. (It is far easier to get away with posting episodes late when you don't have a constant reminder for when they should be available).




Updates to initial post:

Updated information to reflect premiere of Anime on Demand (UK and Ireland) simulcast of To Love-Ru Darkness.
Updated information on scheduled premiere of Magi on Anime on Demand.


Interestingly, Darkness still doesn't appear in the listing on their Free Zone page for this season's simulcasts.

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So apparently someone managed to rip Psycho Pass off Funimation's site before it aired. They didn't upload it to the net, but there are screenshots for proof...
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I'm hoping Crunchyroll is foolproof
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Posted 10/11/12

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Avenz255 wrote:

I think every recent anime show (since mid 2000, min 12 episodes) has been fansubbed or with CR/Funi/TAN/etc. CR has the advantage over other streaming content providers for other media devices like PS3, Android/Apple/Windows/other internet devices along with 720/1080 HD streaming which is the main reason I bought my yearly membership.
CR has so much potential (their design/layout/interface + HD stream and ability to watch anime with any screen) but not able to achieve better than average programs. I would want quality programming to go with the HD streaming. For example, no point in watching Ixon Sego in 1080p, I consider that as a filler for lack of content this season.


There's still stuff that doesn't get translated -- Gyrozetter's been out of a week without anyone subbing it, and I doubt anyone will pick up Nanafa or Aikatsu if CR doesn't do it; last season Joshiraku only got subbed because one guy in the entire fansub community was interested, and the group doing Gakkatsu gave up after ten episodes.

And you know, people do have different tastes. Let's say CR could've acquired PsychoPass if they hadn't spent money on Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun -- well, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun is my second favorite series so far this season. I'd much rather have both shows legally available, even if they are split between two different services, than to only get one streaming.


I think there needs to be a minimum of interest for a show to be fansubbed or based off pre-hype or have a cult following. Fansubbers get donations from shows they subbed, only good shows (unless it involves ecchi) would subbed because who donate X amount for subbing a weak show that will be time consuming as well?
I donate roughly $3-$7/completed series if the fansubbers used great detail (ie like how Naruto was fansubbed by Dattebayo before CR subbed it) or if they also included in depth translation (usually on top of the screen and reg translation on bottom) of Japanese jargons that most English speakers wouldn't understand.

Also I agree My Little Monster is a great show really, it had a huge cult following when the manga came out. I knew CR had to get at least 2 Romance genres a season for attracting new subscribers, was surprised that CR got it. But CR should have let Ixion Saga DT slide than waste money acquiring it, could have put that money into getting other titles from earlier seasons or future programs.
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agila61 . They can still hope that as the season progresses, it will perform well enough to attract interest later, and having the demographics on the streaming audience will make it easier to sell. And if it does reasonably well, it will cover its Minimum Guarantee and generate a little bit of extra pocket change to boot.


What's the/a mimium guarantee ?

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Hopefully the next 2 boxes are Sukitte ii na yo and Little Busters!
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agila61 . They can still hope that as the season progresses, it will perform well enough to attract interest later, and having the demographics on the streaming audience will make it easier to sell. And if it does reasonably well, it will cover its Minimum Guarantee and generate a little bit of extra pocket change to boot.

What's the/a mimium guarantee ?

Minimum guarantee refers to a flat sum payment that the distributor (ie CR) must pay to the licensor regardless of how well the anime does. So a series that doesn't bring in enough money to cover its minimum guarantee would be a failed investment and have resulted in a net loss for the distributor. Beyond that, the contract may additionally specify that the distributor pay some fraction of the profits earned.

The following ANN articles ("The Anime Economy" Parts 1,2, 3) are very informative. The 3rd is the one that covers licensing and minimum guarantee.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-07
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-09

Edit: Late, but correcting my usage of licensor and distributor.
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My guess for today's reveal would be - Sukitte ii na yo (even though I really hope it's not)

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I love the 2012 fall anime lineups so many of the old animes of 2007-2008 are back yeah
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am i the only one who is not that interested in this season's anime?

honestly, i was surprised gintama is back real soon with that awesome Kintama arc. lolol
I'm still waiting for Robotics;Notes though. It seemed that it would be the only anime that would rock my boat for this season.
2012 offered me a few gems, but I don't think 2012 had the best anime lineup. I like 2004-07's much better, honestly.
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icecreamsnow wrote:

agila61 . They can still hope that as the season progresses, it will perform well enough to attract interest later, and having the demographics on the streaming audience will make it easier to sell. And if it does reasonably well, it will cover its Minimum Guarantee and generate a little bit of extra pocket change to boot.

What's the/a mimium guarantee ?

Minimum guarantee refers to a flat sum payment that the licensor must pay regardless of how well the anime does. So a series that doesn't bring in enough money to cover its minimum guarantee would be a failed investment and have resulted in a net loss for the licensor. Beyond that, the contract may additionally specify that the licensor pay some fraction of the profits earned.

Those ANN articles are great ...though they do focus on DVD and Blu Ray distribution, which is still the largest part of the total market by far.

You promise royalties to the licensor on a per view basis ~ either a flat rate per view or a share of revenues. But you also promise to pay at least a certain amount per episode, say, $1,500. So if the royalties the episode earns are $750, you pay $1,500, and if the royalties the episode earns are $2,000, you pay $2,000.

You pay the Minimum Guarantee up front (the ANN articles say its often 1/3 on signing, 1/3 on delivery of materials and 1/3 on release, but streaming might not follow that exactly), so when a hit passes its Minimum Guarantee, you start paying the extra royalties earned on an ongoing basis.

But the economics of subscription streaming is more like the economics of subscription cable. If having the series as part of the selection helps attract new subscribers and helps keep existing subscribers on board, it can be worth its Minimum Guarantee even if its views don't "earn back" the Minimum Guarantee.

So its not really a loss for every series that doesn't hit its Minimum Guarantee ~ its more like book publishing, where most authors receive the "advance against royalties" and nothing more. Only the big best-sellers generate extra royalties for their authors.


mangosky wrote: am i the only one who is not that interested in this season's anime?

honestly, i was surprised gintama is back real soon with that awesome Kintama arc. lolol
I'm still waiting for Robotics;Notes though. It seemed that it would be the only anime that would rock my boat for this season.
2012 offered me a few gems, but I don't think 2012 had the best anime lineup. I like 2004-07's much better, honestly.

After being disappointed with what I saw on the season card, and then seeing two of my "like to watch" series end up on Funimation, I'm happier with the Crunchyroll season than I thought I'd be.

Of course, I hadn't caught Bakemonogatari when I came out, so that is a bonus for my Crunchyroll season, like the season I skipped Sora no Woto and then the next season watched it and loved it. Between Bakemonogatari, From a New World, maybe Blast of Tempest and the ongoing Space Brothers and Polar Bear Cafe, I'm quite pleased.

(Though I'd be even more pleased if one of the remaining boxes ended up being JoJo's Biazarre Adventure. C'mon NISA, grab it and share it with Crunchyroll!!!)
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So apparently someone managed to rip Psycho Pass off Funimation's site before it aired. They didn't upload it to the net, but there are screenshots for proof...

This is now confirmed. The rip has been now been uploaded, but luckily for Funi the series has now aired (technically it's still airing as I post this, but oh well).
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llamaben wrote:

llamaben wrote:
So apparently someone managed to rip Psycho Pass off Funimation's site before it aired. They didn't upload it to the net, but there are screenshots for proof...

This is now confirmed. The rip has been now been uploaded, but luckily for Funi the series has now aired (technically it's still airing as I post this, but oh well).

I'm shocked, shocked, that a group with the programming skill that they display on their streaming site and with their (outsourced) Roku channel and (outsourced) Android app is having trouble locking down their website.

(Ummm ... I hope people can tell I'm being sarcastic?)

{sigh} ... I hope this doesn't interrupt the noitaminA block streaming ~ Psycho-Pass and Robotic;Notes ~ but I'm afraid that it will.
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