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Your thoughts on improving the human body with technology
Posted 6/29/12
first thoughts as i read this thread, cyborgs o_o
Posted 6/29/12
if i could turn mysself into an android i would with out second thought so im just waiting for the day when technology can make me into the ultimate human machine
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Posted 6/29/12
If you have a physical impairment the new technologies being developed or already coming out are wonderful and I can see where new technologies can be beneficial to all who wish to take advantage of them. Affording is a different story. That will depend on what your priorities are, possibly even who your connections are.

The dilemmas I see are subordinating an individual's free will for the intellectual conceit or contrivance of technological immortality and just that, lifespan. If everyone is capable of living for a century or greater I can't help but wonder where the food supply is going to originate and propagate to sustain this. And as for free will I suppose it might be possible to develop a scenario where no one has any. But if that happens I sure wouldn't wish to be around living a lie in this dimension. It's bad enough external forces (for lack of a better descriptor) consume most of my income (39% less buying power with today's USD than 4 years ago; yea, USA) but I feel they have no right to "own" my soul for the promise of a contrived illusion. That's not going to be surrendered freely or easily.

Law(s) of unintended Consequence: get ready! Here we come! Kicking and screaming!
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Posted 6/29/12

-Vega- wrote:

I don't need any technology to improve my body. My genetic programming is already turning me into a being that is higher than most of you.


Delusional thinking. If it were up to me, I'd have you pumped with anti-psychotics and a nice stay in a mental asylum.
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I'm imagining in the future we could also copy our memories into another body and if we did and the body still remains a dead shell. We would have proven that man is more than just a collection of memories and experiences, that means that we have a soul?



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Posted 6/29/12
Speaking as an actual cyborg, it's by no means as great as science fiction would have you believe. Artificial organs require almost constant supervision to ensure that they work properly, they're ridiculously expensive to both own and maintain, they're neither as compact, reliable or efficient as their natural predecessors, and good luck finding a medical insurance policy that'll completely cover installation, maintenance and replacement of the organs in question. Also, you can't go swimming with most of them.

So far, the only people who are cyborgs today became so out of necessity rather than desire to be augmented. Take me for example. I'm a type-1 diabetic with an insulin pump and a blood glucose sensor to replace the parts of my pancreas that don't work anymore. If my pump stops working for any reason, I need to contact the manufacturer and have them send me a replacement pump, and then go to the hospital so that I can have the insulin I need to stay alive until the new pump comes in the mail the next day. If my sensor stops working, I have to rely on my blood glucose monitor to see where I'm at, contact the manufacturer to make sure that I get a replacement, and hope that I don't have to be hospitalized or start having seizures because my blood sugar levels are all out of whack. I can't go swimming without having to disconnect my pump and remove my sensor first. If I don't get a regular supply of pump insertion sets, sensors, blood glucose test strips, pump refill tanks and replacement insulin, I will sicken and eventually die.

If I had the choice to be cured rather than live like I do today I would, but the manufacturers stand to make far too much money off of people like me to allow a cure for my medical condition to be developed. As a result, I will most likely end up spending the rest of my life a cyborg, paying vast sums of money I cannot afford to pay in order to stay alive. The only advantage to being a cyborg in this case is that when everything is working smoothly, I can at least live like a normal person for a time.

That said, I predict that widespread augmentation is inevitable, although a better term would be "replacement." We already have widespread technological augmentation; the only reason why our species has survived long enough to become the top dog on our little blue dot is because we were able to develop prosthetic technologies to make up for our own physical shortcomings, with the ability to upgrade them as better materials and designs were developed. Think about it; instead of having claws or sharp teeth, we have swords, knives and spears; instead of an exoskeleton or a thick hide, we have body armor; instead of a coat of fur, we have clothing and fur coats. Our entire evolutionary history has been one of technological augmentation, and we're only getting better at it. Now, we can strike at threats on other continents while staying safe at home, we are capable of flying higher than the highest-flying bird, and swimming deeper than the deepest-swimming fish, we can gather food on a scale no other species could even dream of. Now, we have machines to do much of our survival work for us, and so we squabble amongst ourselves because we have no other immediate threats. Most of our accomplishments as a species were done with little more sophisticated than Bronze Age technology. Eventually, augmentation will turn to replacement, although I don't think that we're quite mature enough as a species to use that technology properly.
Posted 6/29/12
How much longer do we really need to live?


meman887 wrote:


-Vega- wrote:

I don't need any technology to improve my body. My genetic programming is already turning me into a being that is higher than most of you.


Delusional thinking. If it were up to me, I'd have you pumped with anti-psychotics and a nice stay in a mental asylum.


I'll answer for you Vega: been there, done that.
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Posted 6/29/12
Are we there yet, cuz I can't wait to use the Icarus Landing system.
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Posted 6/29/12
Part of me thinks it would be cool, part of me things people would take it way too far. Plus I'm a bit concerned about the morality of it.
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Posted 6/29/12
The merger between man and machine is our destiny we already have cyborgs among us everyone who has a pace maker or a prosthetic limb are considered cyborgs. If you look at our technology its progressing more towards human integration, the IPAD for example requires only a hand to operate no external accessories like a joystick or a key pad are needed to operate it. Google is looking into glasses (http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/27/google-glass-future/) that will enhance our vision. A university professor implanted a computer chip in his arm and was able to control computers and electronics with it. (http://articles.cnn.com/1998-08-28/tech/9808_28_armchip.idg_1_chip-implants-computers-powerful-chip?_s=PM:TECH) We are currently looking into exoskeletons to enhance our strength, speed, endurance (http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/medical-robots/exoskeletons-are-on-the-march). these are just a few steps we are taking to try and improve humans as a whole, make them stronger, faster, smarter, better and while most of these technology's are not implanted in us I can almost garentee that if we could build a human heart and place it in the human body instead of relaying on organ transplants we would do it (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57457926-10391704/retired-teacher-gets-new-englands-first-total-artificial-heart-implant/). Heres a thought if you could implant a computer chip in your brain will all the knowledge you ever wanted and you could access it at your will wouldn't you take it?
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Posted 6/29/12 , edited 6/29/12
^I'd want all of those, except maybe for the chip unless there is a way for us to deal with our own emotions however we want. Having too much knowledge tends to make people depressed.

I'm all for it. Given that the technology is advanced enough, it would make maintaining our bodies a lot easier. Our bodies will also be more resilient and will last longer. We might even be able to make it so that everyone becomes highly knowledgeable by 'downloading' information from a large database into our brains. Perhaps our energy efficiency could also be increased in artificial ways so that we don't use up nearly as many natural resources as we currently do.
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Posted 6/29/12
I believe in Nano-machine technology, and a couple of other things
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Posted 7/1/12

Happencheese wrote:

Part of me thinks it would be cool, part of me things people would take it way too far. Plus I'm a bit concerned about the morality of it.


What morality issues do you see with it?
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Posted 7/1/12 , edited 7/1/12
Improving the human body with technology for medical reasons is helpful. Something like your consciousness is put inside a data storage unit would be horrible though.
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Posted 7/1/12
And then we would be a bunch of lazy fucks relying on computers to work for us. I'm not totally against it, but I feel like we'd lose something big. I mean, having an athletic, truly great body takes work and skill and discipline, but just using a computer to install all that would be like taking away a huge part of a person. I'm all for prosthetic limbs for the people who need it, but there's a huge line between technological advances and laziness. I think it sounds cool but not really something to be put to actual use.
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