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The Wise Wizard
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Rito2Ru wrote:

And there is no "official wait time" for wanting another season of a show.

For example, The World God Only Knows II came out in Spring 2011 season. The World God Only Knows III came out in Summer 2013 season. More than 2 years between seasons where we only got OVAs packed in with the manga for the most part.

I think it is safe to say that the longer the period of time that passes with no activity, the lower the probability for a continuation. As you noted in your example, OVAs were released during that interim period.

Mushi-shi would have probably been a better example. Unless you count the live action film (March 2007), there was apparently nothing between when the original series ended in June 2006 and the special earlier this month and subsequent announcement of a new series starting in the spring.

That gets back to the matter of probability. I believe you'll find examples similar to Mushi-shi to be few and far between.

In general, if something that isn't a major title ongoing in other media doesn't have a sequel of some type within 3 years (including OVAs, OADs, or a movie), one can probably stop holding their breath for a sequel. As an example, I believe even the most ardent fans of Skip Beat have given up hope of any second series (despite the ongoing manga), as I used to see wishes expressed for that often, but rarely any more.
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TheAncientOne wrote:


Rito2Ru wrote:

And there is no "official wait time" for wanting another season of a show.

For example, The World God Only Knows II came out in Spring 2011 season. The World God Only Knows III came out in Summer 2013 season. More than 2 years between seasons where we only got OVAs packed in with the manga for the most part.

I think it is safe to say that the longer the period of time that passes with no activity, the lower the probability for a continuation. As you noted in your example, OVAs were released during that interim period.

Mushi-shi would have probably been a better example. Unless you count the live action film (March 2007), there was apparently nothing between when the original series ended in June 2006 and the special earlier this month and subsequent announcement of a new series starting in the spring.

That gets back to the matter of probability. I believe you'll find examples similar to Mushi-shi to be few and far between.

In general, if something that isn't a major title ongoing in other media doesn't have a sequel of some type within 3 years (including OVAs, OADs, or a movie), one can probably stop holding their breath for a sequel. As an example, I believe even the most ardent fans of Skip Beat have given up hope of any second series (despite the ongoing manga), as I used to see wishes expressed for that often, but rarely any more.


Holy cow that show was gone for almost 8 years?! Wonder why they decided to bring it back?

I still want to believe in Oda Nobuna though



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Given it has only been a year and a handful of months... i'll still believe in more Oda Nobuna, like TheAncientOne said, there are other cases out there where there were many years in between one season and the next. But just as much to that is the more time that passes the less likely it will be.
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Yeah but didn't it not do so swell on sales?
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iblessall wrote:

I real question is how they could not see more screen time for a harem boasting 3+ lolis as a worthwhile investment.


Story driven anime with lolis seem to do really poorly with Japanese audiences. Even though they tend to like hystorical stuff, adding lolis doesn't help sales at all. Remember Sunday Without God and Dansai Bunri no Crime Edge? Their BDs sold horribly.
Slice of Lifes with lolis, on the other hand, almost always do well.
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Stonewolfe wrote:

Given it has only been a year and a handful of months... i'll still believe in more Oda Nobuna, like TheAncientOne said, there are other cases out there where there were many years in between one season and the next. But just as much to that is the more time that passes the less likely it will be.


Infinite Stratos took 3 years for a season 2, so Oda Nobuna still has a chance of continuing. The sales were decent, but as cautious as studios are today, you never know.
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I really enjoyed this series. I am hoping it will continue in the future.
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YuSooKey wrote:

Infinite Stratos took 3 years for a season 2, so Oda Nobuna still has a chance of continuing. The sales were decent, but as cautious as studios are today, you never know.

Don't forget that Infinite Stratos had an OVA in December 2011, so could be counted as resetting the clock a bit. I suspect the second series may have come sooner, had it not been for the issue that arose with the light novels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IS_%28Infinite_Stratos%29#Light_novels

The best hope for Oda Nobuna would be if the light novels and/or manga saw a circulation bump during the series, especially if that is now tailing off. At the very least that might prompt an OVA or OAD, which could spur some interest for another series.

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Posted 1/7/14 , edited 1/7/14

TheAncientOne wrote:
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The best hope for Oda Nobuna would be if the light novels and/or manga saw a circulation bump during the series, especially if that is now tailing off. At the very least that might prompt an OVA or OAD, which could spur some interest for another series.
In 2011, Oda Nobuna no Yabou does not appear on the top light novel charts. In 2012, the year the anime came out, it ranked #9 with 450,000 sales. In 2013 it is again absent. So it would seem that the anime gave it a good boost.

The anime itself got a steady 4,200 disc sales per volume which isn't Infinite Stratos levels by any means but it isn't bad and combined with the novel sales bump, dakimakura, other merchandise I'd say it was successful. The production committee has to think so for another season to come.

As for Infinite Stratos novels, in 2011 before it went on a 'break' it sold over 1.5 MILLION copies. After moving to Overlap Bunko, even though it is their flagship title (only one to rank so far) it sold only 358,990 copies in 2013. It was absent in 2012 while suspended.

Source: ANN searches...
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-01/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan-by-series/2013
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-02/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan-by-series/2012
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-30/top-selling-light-novels-in-japan/2011
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If only anime producers thought more outwardly towards getting support for sequels. In the west we have the exact opposite problem where people keep making the same crap over and over because it sells. This is the sort of reason why Kickstarter exists and why it's so successfull. It allows the fans to tell the producers directly how much the like and how far fans are willing to support their favourite shows. I would happily pay $10-$20 for season 2 to be streamed to Crunchyroll if they chucked in some concept art or whatever. If you are not making enough money in your current market, try a different one or at least try expanding your appeal.
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Atomic_Communist wrote:

If only anime producers thought more outwardly towards getting support for sequels. In the west we have the exact opposite problem where people keep making the same crap over and over because it sells. This is the sort of reason why Kickstarter exists and why it's so successfull. It allows the fans to tell the producers directly how much the like and how far fans are willing to support their favourite shows. I would happily pay $10-$20 for season 2 to be streamed to Crunchyroll if they chucked in some concept art or whatever. If you are not making enough money in your current market, try a different one or at least try expanding your appeal.


It might be a good future thing, Ani-start; a kickstart program where fans crowdsource an anime series they want. That way, if you like "Ambition" and are willing to pay for it; they will make it. Crunchyroll has more money since they have their new investor, perhaps they can innovate such a program? I know a few I'd do, including Ambition, such as Skip Beat and Sakurasou and Koihime Musou
But I would rather wait for more books to come out before the equal
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So I've just marathoned all 12 episodes and I loved them. An ending that's not really an ending, hoping for a sequel one day.
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sthrandom wrote:

So I've just marathoned all 12 episodes and I loved them. An ending that's not really an ending, hoping for a sequel one day.



gah choke thyself for bumping this thread and giving false hopes.
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thepaladin101 wrote:


sthrandom wrote:

So I've just marathoned all 12 episodes and I loved them. An ending that's not really an ending, hoping for a sequel one day.



gah choke thyself for bumping this thread and giving false hopes.


Oh well... *chokes*

At least I didn't bump http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-779860/oda-nobuna-no-yabou-season-2?pg=3
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