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Are Asians who are new to America scared of black people?
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Well I'm a 5'11 and 195lbs -Very athletic Black Male. I am very nice, Handsome and approachable I think and I've noticed that of course some people of any race would fear me a little I have an imposing figure, but I have noticed that some Japanese and other Asian races (sorry I don't want to say every one) that are kinda new to America are much more how can I say apprehensive of my presence especially when I walk by them or sit next to them on a train or bus. Don't get me wrong I am in no way saying that they hate black people of something that harsh, I'm just honestly asking If in most Asian countries there are no black people or if there is something taught that might make them scared or maybe even my height and size? If anyone might know something I would appreciate it a lot . I have Asian friends and dated 2 Asian girls in my life time. I like people of all cultures and backgrounds.


Let me ask, are you specifically looking to date an Asian girl?

Because once you're tagged as an American with an "Asian girl fetish" this might be the reason they shy away from you. Also, at least out of the dozens of Japanese friends I have they seem to think blacks are too pushy. But then you'd also have to understand that back in Japan the only blacks they really ever see are Nigerian immigrants (aw, lets face it they're the illegal aliens of Japan) who always want to scam people.


Well I do like women who are Asian a little more than other races, but its just a preference and not a necessity basically I'm an equal opportunity dater. I don't have any problems with dating women of any race( not trying to be arrogant or anything like that) especially Asian women because I'm a "nice guy" and that seems to work well with Asian women, but I am talking more about just being next to of walking by some one who is just obviously uncomfortable with my presence be it male or female.


A "little more" could be totally obvious to the girl, and I'm really only passing on something I've heard about the topic. There's also this idea I've developed based on a friend of mine's experience, the concept of "polite anger". She's an attractive woman, very mannered and extremely nice. Occasionally she comes across a guy who is too aggressive or too forward even though they think of themselves as a "nice guy" too (just a general statement, not aimed specifically at you) but they annoyed her to the point where she would politely brush them off but quietly to herself she's cursing them out. And it's not just her, it's a trait I've seen in many Japanese women and some Taiwanese and Korean ones too. Sort of a defense mechanism, and not to defend the fact that the person may be black but one to defend against the barrage of "nice guys" who view them as whores.

What Japanese girls like, and I know this from experience, is that you let them approach you. Allow them to make conversation and it goes a lot further than shameless flirting, cause they can flirt right back with absolutely no potential for sex associated with it.


I have an ability to tell when a girl is being nice or flirting most of the time and with Japanese women I agree it is the hardest to tell....one has to be very careful in flirting with women who are so hard to read. I usually wait for a woman to show interest in me first before I make any move, that way I wont come off as an aggressor or face rejection LoL trust me I do my home work about the nice cultural set up of japan or any country for that matter, yet you have gave me more material to note thank you for your info. For my original question there would be only 5% of it to do with the dating factor...it's mostly me wanting to understand the reactions I get on a almost daily basis.


Six years with the same Japanese woman in my life and I learned all her dirty tricks.

Thankfully she uses them on other guys. XD
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Yes. I just got back from Vietnam and they say that black people look intimidating. Tbh they do. no offense
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Who the hell wants to be in a room filled with black guys?
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kay I'm chinese... ehhh I guess it's just because we're not used to black people and there's this social stigma that black people are menacing... I guess. Like black people will steal from you, hurt you.. etc. I know this stereotype is not right, but it's still what people believe.
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I''ve gotten the complete opposite:

I'm black, 6'4, though not built but bulky, and usually when I'm in town I usually get approached by asian tourists asking directions, to take pictures...hell I even gotten a couple a pictures with them

when I was in high school...we had several exchange students from japan,china, and korea...a couple of them were in my science, math, and history class and they considered me a friend and took some pictures with them before they left. me and the exchange kid from japan really bonded because he was an anime fan.
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The reason why a lot of Asians who are new to the U.S. may seem fearful or uneasy around African Americans is because in some homogenous societies the only image they have of other groups of people is through media and entertainment but of course this is starting to change.
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It seems people that are not familiar with black people fear them. And it seems that fear is mostly reinforced by false stereotype due to social media.
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Actually im mixed asian and black.



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On-topic, IDK, but im pretty sure they're ok with foreigners.


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lol. gave me such a scare /sarcasm.

andd idk really. I guess I'm just used to it .____.

The first time I saw black people I freaked out inside.
They're just... tall and, foreign @.@

I can only take people who are like 170cm tall and below @.@
I am veeeeery short, tbh TTwTT
and I guess Asians are known to being short?
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marcel20 wrote:

I have noticed that some Japanese and other Asian races (sorry I don't want to say every one) that are kinda new to America are much more how can I say apprehensive of my presence especially when I walk by them or sit next to them on a train or bus. Don't get me wrong I am in no way saying that they hate black people of something that harsh, I'm just honestly asking If in most Asian countries there are no black people or if there is something taught that might make them scared or maybe even my height and size?


Studies conducted that majority of Asian people fear the colour tone of black in general. Asian cultures like China takes the colour black as a symbol death and mourn. Thus, they discourage mostly people wearing black. Sighted example, if there's a birthday and other special occasions one is invited to attend, one must wear a festive and vibrant colour. Wearing black may give the wrong impression. Black have been connoted to some of the negative attributes in the society to name a few, black magic, black knight, black death, black water, black Saturday often times figuratively aligns it self to negativity. In nature of being human, the black seems to be the unknown. Night time, is most feared time by humans for we can not see properly and we believe that the absence of sunlight dark creature roams around mostly in stories like ghost, demons take a look of the one mammal that feast at night and have been feared for the wrong side of it's nature the BATS. Most the same in dogs. If you have a white doberman most like to see it roaming and feel it is harmless and cute. In the contrary, if you have a black doberman majority stay away from it.

It's a social stigma that black is feared much more if it's black or dark people. To add to it Hip hop or Hollywood contributed to another downgrade factors of it like most of the gang or bad wild people they portrayed it as black people saying fucking and shitty foul words. One can say that Hollywood have a bigger impact on the planet than Jesus it self





Although the case can be made for these factors, I think it bears mentioning that there have been studies done on infantile response which point to an even deeper root factor. They found that a vast number of stress responses increased, most notably blood pressure, when a black nurse would come in and change them as compared to a white nurse, or even a black woman with a lighter skin tone. It should be noted that the infantile response group was uniform -- in other words even black babies responded that way.

Furthermore, infantile responses to hair color fell into the same exact pattern. Lighter colored hair tones, blonde, white, silver, grey, etc, were responded to with the least stress. Black hair with the most stress.

The conclusion was that as primates, we're conditioned to respond with fear to adults with dark hair / skin tone. This may have been the result of the natural dynamic between infants and young adults within a primate troop. Young adults are highly sexually active and thus an enormous threat to infants (as rogue males always are among all mammalian groups). Killing a mother's baby makes her receptive to mating, so infanticide is extremely common.

The elders among the troop have aged and with age their hair naturally turns white (or silver), but the youth still have their dark black coats of hair. This is where the big issue pops up among primates, within many primate families it was originally noted that it seemed the oldest apes were relegated to taking care of the babies while the crazy teenagers partied. In fact this was not the case, it's the exact opposite. The elders can actually be witnessed stealing the young away from their mothers by force and then fighting them off savagely if they try to take them back. Why this is, is unknown, but in the words of Jane Goodall: "Perhaps it's jealousy, perhaps it's wisdom."

So, we come from a family tree where we're used to being raised by our white-haired grandparents and used to being terrified of the black haired adults running around. The resulting trust issues with dark complexions and dark hair remains to this day and is seen within our own human family with the universal preference for blondes and the universal stress response to those with black hair and black skin tones.

...That said, we all grow up eventually, and the vast amount of negative reinforcement and negative imagery supplied by Hollywood and world media does nothing to reassure people. Still, the question remains, how did such extreme prejudice against dark men form thousands of years before Hollywood and world media, much less the printing press, even existed? I think the studies into infantile response and primate family dynamics is a strong indication as to the source of our fears. I only hope that one day we can actually
overcome our bad programming and end the suffering.




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When I was new to America I was not scared of black people specifically and I am Asian. I am just scared of scary people. Anybody can be scary.
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kajisawa wrote:


marcel20 wrote:

I have noticed that some Japanese and other Asian races (sorry I don't want to say every one) that are kinda new to America are much more how can I say apprehensive of my presence especially when I walk by them or sit next to them on a train or bus. Don't get me wrong I am in no way saying that they hate black people of something that harsh, I'm just honestly asking If in most Asian countries there are no black people or if there is something taught that might make them scared or maybe even my height and size?


Studies conducted that majority of Asian people fear the colour tone of black in general. Asian cultures like China takes the colour black as a symbol death and mourn. Thus, they discourage mostly people wearing black. Sighted example, if there's a birthday and other special occasions one is invited to attend, one must wear a festive and vibrant colour. Wearing black may give the wrong impression. Black have been connoted to some of the negative attributes in the society to name a few, black magic, black knight, black death, black water, black Saturday often times figuratively aligns it self to negativity. In nature of being human, the black seems to be the unknown. Night time, is most feared time by humans for we can not see properly and we believe that the absence of sunlight dark creature roams around mostly in stories like ghost, demons take a look of the one mammal that feast at night and have been feared for the wrong side of it's nature the BATS. Most the same in dogs. If you have a white doberman most like to see it roaming and feel it is harmless and cute. In the contrary, if you have a black doberman majority stay away from it.

It's a social stigma that black is feared much more if it's black or dark people. To add to it Hip hop or Hollywood contributed to another downgrade factors of it like most of the gang or bad wild people they portrayed it as black people saying fucking and shitty foul words. One can say that Hollywood have a bigger impact on the planet than Jesus it self





Although the case can be made for these factors, I think it bears mentioning that there have been studies done on infantile response which point to an even deeper root factor. They found that a vast number of stress responses increased, most notably blood pressure, when a black nurse would come in and change them as compared to a white nurse, or even a black woman with a lighter skin tone. It should be noted that the infantile response group was uniform -- in other words even black babies responded that way.

Furthermore, infantile responses to hair color fell into the same exact pattern. Lighter colored hair tones, blonde, white, silver, grey, etc, were responded to with the least stress. Black hair with the most stress.

The conclusion was that as primates, we're conditioned to respond with fear to adults with dark hair / skin tone. This may have been the result of the natural dynamic between infants and young adults within a primate troop. Young adults are highly sexually active and thus an enormous threat to infants (as rogue males always are among all mammalian groups). Killing a mother's baby makes her receptive to mating, so infanticide is extremely common.

The elders among the troop have aged and with age their hair naturally turns white (or silver), but the youth still have their dark black coats of hair. This is where the big issue pops up among primates, within many primate families it was originally noted that it seemed the oldest apes were relegated to taking care of the babies while the crazy teenagers partied. In fact this was not the case, it's the exact opposite. The elders can actually be witnessed stealing the young away from their mothers by force and then fighting them off savagely if they try to take them back. Why this is, is unknown, but in the words of Jane Goodall: "Perhaps it's jealousy, perhaps it's wisdom."

So, we come from a family tree where we're used to being raised by our white-haired grandparents and used to being terrified of the black haired adults running around. The resulting trust issues with dark complexions and dark hair remains to this day and is seen within our own human family with the universal preference for blondes and the universal stress response to those with black hair and black skin tones.

...That said, we all grow up eventually, and the vast amount of negative reinforcement and negative imagery supplied by Hollywood and world media does nothing to reassure people. Still, the question remains, how did such extreme prejudice against dark men form thousands of years before Hollywood and world media, much less the printing press, even existed? I think the studies into infantile response and primate family dynamics is a strong indication as to the source of our fears. I only hope that one day we can actually overcome our bad programming and end the suffering.


So basically the study that you are talking about says that humans are genetically afraid of black or darken skin people? That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.
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