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Why most people want to be slaves?
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Interesting that people are trying to tell the believers why and what they believe.

I have a a definitive point in my life when I knew there is a God.

I was 23 (now 29). I decided I wanted to know if there is a God. Being raised in a majorily Christian culture I turned to the Bible to investigate the claim. I was reading the new testament and was really trying to understand. What I was learning I couldn't match to any current religion I knew of. That is that the religions I knew of did not teach or practice everything I had learned, or that some was different. I was not too concerned as it didn't matter unless there is a God. At some point I decided to actually try what the Bible says and ask. For the first time in my life I got on my knees and asked God if He is there and if the Bible is true. I said "if you are there tell me and I will change to live the way you want me to live and if you are not there I am just going to keep on living my life the way I want". There! I had put God to the test. I kept on reading as I found the scriptures so interesting, I couldn't put it down. One night as I was reading and wondering if what it says was real. I had a revelation. God is there and the scriptures are true. I didn't form this opinion and did not convince myself that they are true. It was a very real experience where I was "told" in no uncertain terms that it is true. Like pure knowledge entered into me.
I knew!

I know that God is there. You can find out as well.


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For those of you wondering what happens to those who do not know of Christ or why are we here should read this site, it helps.

http://mormon.org/plan-of-happiness

You may not find it all on there first glance but I will briefly touch on this -

Your soul and your body are seperated at death. You will be given the opportunity to accept Christ in that state.
There is no death bed repentance (though I suppose there may be instances) as you are the same person you were during life. Saying a few words doesn't get you a free ticket. Being a better person is what this is about.

I have related this according to my own current understanding of the Church's teaching. It may differ from official teaching.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons) is the restored church of Christ.
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^Your kidding right?
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I opened this thread expecting something interesting and found a petulant antitheist rant(but I repeat myself). Why do people believe in higher powers? Ancient men did so because at least capricious spirits were influenceable, whereas the laws of physics can't be reasoned with. Why do such beliefs continue? Because people don't like to question what they learned as children or because people question their beliefs and decide there is a higher power. The only ones who seem to me that they truly fear there might be a god are people like you, who keep shouting that everyone who disagrees must be insane in the hope of convincing yourselves. Grow up.
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Thinking won't get you far. Our brains are only so limited, confuses and mislead us. Sooner or later you'll have to let your soul into lead. Our soul standing alone is weak, only through God are our souls strengthened. Repent and let the Holy Spirit dwell in you and trust me, your eyes will be truly opened.
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Best post in Months.
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We all secretly like it.
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We created God to appease ourselves. We created things to do to appease ourselves. Everything we do in life is to appease ourselves.

Some people need a bigger purpose in their life, some find it in religion, some find it in their career or passion. Slaving away for something you believe in makes you feel purposeful.

Others are free spirits who answer to no one, and are responsible to none but themselves.

Whatever makes you happy and fulfilled.
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negan wrote:

You make a simple world sound complicated.


Well, it's not that complicated if you see it in a BROAD perspective


Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work.[1] Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation. Historically, slavery was institutionally recognized by many societies; in more recent times slavery has been outlawed in most societies but continues through the practices of debt bondage, indentured servitude, serfdom, domestic servants kept in captivity, certain adoptions in which children are forced to work as slaves, child soldiers, and forced marriage

People, nowadays can be a slave for their country for some government constitution or nation view them as one a slave.
An individual can be a slave to someone in the name of love like how teenagers behave crazy justifying that they did it all for LOVE



Posted 7/12/12
I read the title and my mind went to something else entirely.
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Well if i have to be a slave or a master i would be a slave but hey i'm just saying. But all in all i dont want to be a slave or a master
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Dunno. I'm an atheist existentialist :D. Let them be "enslaved," if they are happier than you then it must be working. If somebody is ignorant but they're good people then there's no need to question them. May be they think that they need somebody to guide them to a happy life. Humans always want change and improvement, it's a driving force in our lives and it isn't really a bad thing.
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The main reason is so that they can be free of some kind of worry or fear that they have. For example you're afraid of dying, belief in a God with a ticket to a happy pleasure filled afterlife relieves the worry over what happens when you die. Of course it then adds the fear that perhaps you aren't good enough to get into heaven, etc, etc. People want to believe that their being alive serves a purpose other than, breathing, eating, sleeping, shitting and sexing. They want a set of morals to base their own off of and want something that will bring them together as a community with others. A lot of times I'm sure people go to church not for the religion, but to be around and socialize with people.

(When I first read the title I thought you were talking about the dominance/submission fetish stuff )
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People like following things like religion because it makes them feel that they have a purpose. Religion also tells people that there is always someone who loves and cares for them, which can be quite comforting. They can explain away the unexplained through religion, they can come together as a community, they can feel like they belong and that the world isn't as scary and out of their control as it really is. Knowing that someone or something is dictating their lives can ease people's minds, because then they don't have to worry about any other factors and things that they don't know and focus on one thing that they do know and understand.

People like to know things. They like to have a purpose, they like to be around other people, they like to love and be loved, they like to belong somewhere. Religion fills all these needs. Submitting oneself as a 'slave' to it seems like a small price to pay, once you count it all up. And it's logical, if religion is doing all these things for you, to integrate it as part of your identity and remain loyal to it.

It's the same as being loyal to your country. I love my country. It offers me protection, knowledge, community, love, and a sense of identity. I have no problems submitting myself to it, even if it's flawed. Though, a big difference is that with democracy, you have a chance to change the flaws -- with traditional religion, not so much. Which is why I don't particularly like it. But I can understand why people devote so much of themselves to it, and I'm in no position to judge, no matter how slave-like they seem to me.

Another factor is how people were raised. If someone was raised to believe in a religion, then chances are they will stick with it, because it is familiar and comfortable and has been burned into their minds from a young age. Sometimes people are just afraid to branch out, because then they'd have to acknowledge that what they 'knew' might have been false and open themselves up to other possibilities. People don't like admitting they are wrong, especially when they were so invested in their beliefs.

Anywho, that's just my two cents. I probably echoed what a lot of other people said already, but I find this kind of topic very interesting~
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Hmmmmmm...... I concur.......
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Aokidanza wrote:

People like following things like religion because it makes them feel that they have a purpose. Religion also tells people that there is always someone who loves and cares for them, which can be quite comforting. They can explain away the unexplained through religion, they can come together as a community, they can feel like they belong and that the world isn't as scary and out of their control as it really is. Knowing that someone or something is dictating their lives can ease people's minds, because then they don't have to worry about any other factors and things that they don't know and focus on one thing that they do know and understand.

People like to know things. They like to have a purpose, they like to be around other people, they like to love and be loved, they like to belong somewhere. Religion fills all these needs. Submitting oneself as a 'slave' to it seems like a small price to pay, once you count it all up. And it's logical, if religion is doing all these things for you, to integrate it as part of your identity and remain loyal to it.

It's the same as being loyal to your country. I love my country. It offers me protection, knowledge, community, love, and a sense of identity. I have no problems submitting myself to it, even if it's flawed. Though, a big difference is that with democracy, you have a chance to change the flaws -- with traditional religion, not so much. Which is why I don't particularly like it. But I can understand why people devote so much of themselves to it, and I'm in no position to judge, no matter how slave-like they seem to me.

Another factor is how people were raised. If someone was raised to believe in a religion, then chances are they will stick with it, because it is familiar and comfortable and has been burned into their minds from a young age. Sometimes people are just afraid to branch out, because then they'd have to acknowledge that what they 'knew' might have been false and open themselves up to other possibilities. People don't like admitting they are wrong, especially when they were so invested in their beliefs.

Anywho, that's just my two cents. I probably echoed what a lot of other people said already, but I find this kind of topic very interesting~


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