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As new animes come and go, we see a lot that have censoring in them. I understand that the diversity of the audience affects the anime received, but I thought we were here to get Anime exactly how Japan gets it, and if there are no censoring in Japan why not have a section where it is uncensored. Not saying we need hentai, but to be honest the new anime So, I Can't Play H! has scenes that is bothered by the censoring... the action scenes you can barely see due to the censoring and I know for a fact that this is not how its aired in Japan, since I have seen the raws. So please tell me why is there censoring
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Crunchyroll does not actively censor its content. The videos that we have on the website are what we are provided directly from the publishers.

Often times the publishers will censor the shows for TV so they can help boost DVD and BD sales.

I apologize for any inconvenience and please let me know if I can help further.
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angelitoseriv wrote:

As new animes come and go, we see a lot that have censoring in them. I understand that the diversity of the audience affects the anime received, but I thought we were here to get Anime exactly how Japan gets it, and if there are no censoring in Japan why not have a section where it is uncensored. Not saying we need hentai, but to be honest the new anime So, I Can't Play H! has scenes that is bothered by the censoring... the action scenes you can barely see due to the censoring and I know for a fact that this is not how its aired in Japan, since I have seen the raws. So please tell me why is there censoring



The censoring actually does occur on Japanese TV. In Japan they have the same anime airing on multiple TV channels at once in different parts of the country. All of these channels use the censored version, apart from 1 channel. This channel is a premium channel that viewers pay a lot of money to access, and the channel pays a lot of money to the anime company for the rights to air the uncensored version.


So Crunchyroll can't get the uncensored version either because:
1. The Japanese TV channel holds the exclusive rights meaning that no one else can show the uncensored version.
2. The cost of the license for the uncensored version is stupidly expensive so Crunchyroll can't afford it.
3. The Japanese company doesn't want to provide an uncensored version to Crunchyroll.
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I was rather disappointed by this too, but it can't be helped if its the japanese broadcasters who are making this decision...
Its a shame too. I'm willing to bet that if CR offered censored for none-paying members and uncensored for subscribers, they might well attract many more subscribers.

At least their are plenty of other anime here to enjoy.
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Posted 7/17/12

angelitoseriv wrote:

As new animes come and go, we see a lot that have censoring in them. I understand that the diversity of the audience affects the anime received, but I thought we were here to get Anime exactly how Japan gets it, and if there are no censoring in Japan why not have a section where it is uncensored. Not saying we need hentai, but to be honest the new anime So, I Can't Play H! has scenes that is bothered by the censoring... the action scenes you can barely see due to the censoring and I know for a fact that this is not how its aired in Japan, since I have seen the raws. So please tell me why is there censoring

So, I Can't Play H! (Dakara Boku wa, H ga Dekinai.) airs first on AT-X, a premium channel that costs approximately $23 per month when converted to U.S. currency. That is where the uncensored raws you see come from. The broadcast stations that air the program (Tokyo MX, Chiba TV, and TV Kanagawa) all air the same censored version you see at CR.

Perhaps if CR charged as much (or probably more) per month than AT-X, you could get some simulcasts uncensored. The question is, would you be willing to pay that much, and even if so, how many other people would?

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Just get the blurays when they are available.
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I'm not happy about this. The show itself was nothing to write home about, but the fact I'm paying CR to buy BADLY censored anime licensing isn't what I signed up for.

The fight scene had a massive black bar spanning the screen made it completely unwatchable. Hell the nudity in it was actually unnecessary. Plot would have been the same if she were fully clothed. Other shows do a better job of censoring, Demon King Daimao had big stickers but were usually funny. Sekirei integrated objects, clothing and steam well into the scene obscure the view. But blocking half the screen just reeks of apathy.

I don't like that CR is wasting money on this, I'd rather they pick a less popular anime then willing support censorship.
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Posted 7/23/12 , edited 7/23/12

Jim_86 wrote:
I don't like that CR is wasting money on this, I'd rather they pick a less popular anime then willing support censorship.

So if I understand correctly, you are advocating that CR pass on a show they can obtain, simply because the censorship doesn't meet your standards?

Keep in mind that if CR had passed on this show, your subscription fee wouldn't have been a penny lower, and it wouldn't mean CR could then license some other show in its place.

About the only reason CR passes on a show is if they think the revenue it would bring in wouldn't cover the required minimum guarantee. If the show brings in even a minor profit to CR, it is rather obvious it isn't "wasting" money.

Even if a publisher were willing to license the uncensored version of a show to CR, the license fee would be much higher. You need look no further than the prices viewers in Japan for for AT-X for evidence of that.

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So if I understand correctly, you are advocating that CR pass on a show they can obtain, simply because the censorship doesn't meet your standards?
Yes, well, mine about 130 other people commenting on the first episode. And it's not my own singular sentiment, others are saying CR should have skipped this simulcast, are angry they are paying for censored material, or advocating fan-subbers who are releasing the uncensored show.


TheAncientOne wrote:
Keep in mind that if CR had passed on this show, your subscription fee wouldn't have been a penny lower, and it wouldn't mean CR could then license some other show in its place.

About the only reason CR passes on a show is if they think the revenue it would bring in wouldn't cover the required minimum guarantee. If the show brings in even a minor profit to CR, it is rather obvious it isn't "wasting" money.

Even if a publisher were willing to license the uncensored version of a show to CR, the license fee would be much higher. You need look no further than the prices viewers in Japan for for AT-X for evidence of that.


I think you misunderstood the issue. It's not about money. If it was I wouldn't even be here, I'd be pirating. The censorship is the issue. It's POORLY done. It blocked the majority of the screen during a fight scene. I can condone censorship when its done well, seamlessly or adds to the style of the show. This was pandering for DVD sales. It was lazy and interfered with a show that already had a shaky premise.

They should pass, not buy the rights to the uncensored version, just pass on the premise that supporting bad censorship will hurt anime in streaming media.
Why pay for sloppy work, when you can get the real material elsewhere.
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Posted 7/23/12 , edited 7/23/12

Jim_86 wrote:

Why pay for sloppy work, when you can get the real material elsewhere.


By this do you mean CR? Where else can they get it from? While AT-X is a broadcaster they aren't the license holder. If you are talking about the consumer, then that is just a question for themselves to answer when it comes to the morality of fansubs, but that argument has been beat worse than any dead horse. I'm also just trying to understand the rational of passing on it. One of the major reasons for not streaming the uncensored version is to increase physical disc sales. So it is not to the licensor's best interest to do it, and if CR passes it would just be one less series. While it might be annoying it is better than nothing.
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Posted 7/23/12 , edited 9/30/14

batou01 wrote:


Jim_86 wrote:

Why pay for sloppy work, when you can get the real material elsewhere.


By this do you mean CR? Where else can they get it from? While AT-X is a broadcaster they aren't the license holder. If you are talking about the consumer, then that is just a question for themselves to answer when it comes to the morality of fansubs, but that argument has been beat worse than any dead horse. I'm also just trying to understand the rational of passing on it. One of the major reasons for not streaming the uncensored version is to increase physical disc sales. So it is not to the licensor's best interest to do it, and if CR passes it would just be one less series. While it might be annoying it is better than nothing.


No, I meant the average consumer could just wait for the DVDs or pirate better quality work. It will take 3 months to air the series(assuming 12 episodes), that's about $20 CR membership. That could roughly buy the series on DVD uncensored.

As I stated repeatedly I don't want CR to pay extra for the uncensored version, that's just as bad. That would support censorship. Publishers could then up the price on any bad anime by offering censored and uncensored version, like what they are doing right now. If the censored version was at least good quality then I would have no gripes.

I don't want CR to support bad censorship at all. They shouldn't buy this anime, it sending a bad message to the industry and consumers.
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