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Hello fellow crunchyrollers! I have been meaning to make a post to discuss this for a good while, but i was too busy with work and other crap:(. Anyway here it is.

If anyone has netflix and watches anime on it you know that it seems to have many AAA anime titles that crunchyroll does not.

Some examples are gungrave,Ghost in the shell, darker than black,phantom requiem for the phantom(redundant name i know),gunsword,tokyo majjin,canaan,Jyu-oh-sei,tokko,Eden of the east,trigun,samurai 7,el cazador,Blassrettier,night raid 1953, and many other titles. Also their are titles that are not AAA but good anime that cr does not have.

Some examples would be sands of destruction,highschool of the dead,gurren laggen,needless,trinity blood,elfen lied,nabari,pumpkin scissors,Basilisk,burst angel, full metal panic and many others. My question is why has crunchyroll not licensed those titles?

I know it costs $$ to license those titles, but why does netflix charge 7.99 for all of those, and have many movies and tv series all for 7.99.

If they can afford to put out so much more content for almost the same price as cr, why does cr not get more titles as well. Every one of those animes that i listed are on netflix right now! I have it turned on and i was reading all the shows form my watch it again section on netflix.

To be fair know Crunchyroll has many animes that netflix does not have, but i feel that netflix has better anime for the most part. Pretty much all cr has on netflix is the new naruto and bleach. And those are not the best animes anyway. So what are everyones thoughts on this? I really look forward to hearing what everyone has to say!
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I think the key is whether a person prefers the original with subtitles or dubs. For those who like the original, such as myself, Crunchyroll is the choice. Most, if not all, of the anime on Netflix I think are English dubs, so that will appeal to those who don't like reading subtitles.

I will say, not all of those shows you listed are considered AAA titles (Blassreiter, Samurai 7, Night Raid 1953, to name a few) by many, if not most people. But to be fair, let's list some titles that are on Crunchyroll that I don't think are on Netflix (I don't have a Netflix subscription, so I'm just guessing) and, in general, are considered very good shows.
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Gosick
anohana: the Flower We Saw That Day
Bleach (I'm not a fan of the long shounens, but I know many are)
Naruto Shippuden (same as above)
Fairy Tail (same as above)
Another
Chihayafuru
Code GEASS
REBORN!
ERIN
Eyeshield 21
Fate Zero
Seitokai no Ichizon
Gankutsuou
Gintama
Shugo Chara!
SKET Dance
Soranowoto
Hanasaku Iroha
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
The World God Only Knows
Usagi Drop
Kids On the Slope
Wagnaria!!
Lucky Star
You and Me
I haven't even seen many of these titles either, and I'm sure others can add to this list. When you also consider the fact that many of the newest shows are also being streamed on Crunchyroll, I think that Crunchyroll actually has an edge on Netflix.
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Because Netflix is Gigantic compared to CR i guess.

For streaming stuff on the TV i use CR, Netflix, and Hulu Plus. Between the three i can pretty much find everything i want, and if i cant then i head to the computer, but its rare that i do nowadays. Sucks to have to use all three but i like watching anime on a 60 inch screen so thems the breaks i guess~
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Netflix is the 500lb gorilla in the internet streaming room. However, there are a few downsides to Netflix. For one, they generally only have stuff that has been released on home video. If it doesn't have a DVD or BluRay release, they will probably not have it. Some TV shows are an exception to this, but new stuff or stuff that was licensed, released online, and not released on video is not going to be found. (So you won't find shows like Gosick there until somebody picks up the ball that Bandai dropped when they took their DVD authoring systems and went home to pout!) Another is that you won't find many shows in their original language there. I like to watch dubs quite a bit, but sometimes it is better to watch a show with the original language. I don't know that they will be streaming shows like Zakuro or Anohana there, even though they have been released on DVD.

In general, Netflix is great. I have been streaming everything at home for several years now, ever since I got my Roku box. I now have two roku boxes, the old one on a 720p HD screen upstairs and the Roku 2 on the 1080p screen downstairs. I haven't paid for cable TV for several years and have Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Crunchyroll subscriptions. I also have a software solution for some other content called "Playon.TV". They also have a subscription system, but when they went to that I was already a user so they offered me a reduced price lifetime membership. It runs on your TV and provides a media server to any device that can recognize it. (Currently PS3, XBox, Wii, Roku, Android, IPad, Kindle Fire, and many others.) With Playon, you can watch internet streams from many sites, including Hulu (not Hulu Plus, but regular Hulu!) With these things combined, the only thing I really miss is football in the fall, since our local Fox station sucks huge rocks! (All of the other stations come in fine!) I need to check out what Playon has for the Olympics... I bet they have a bunch of stuff I could stream! :)

The other one I am thinking about is the Funimation premium service. I have downloaded their Android ap, but when they come out with their Roku ap, I may actually subscribe...
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Custom_1983_Z28 wrote:

Hello fellow crunchyrollers! I have been meaning to make a post to discuss this for a good while, but i was too busy with work and other crap:(. Anyway here it is.

If anyone has netflix and watches anime on it you know that it seems to have many AAA anime titles that crunchyroll does not.

Some examples are gungrave,Ghost in the shell, darker than black,phantom requiem for the phantom(redundant name i know),gunsword,tokyo majjin,canaan,Jyu-oh-sei,tokko,Eden of the east,trigun,samurai 7,el cazador,Blassrettier,night raid 1953, and many other titles. Also their are titles that are not AAA but good anime that cr does not have.

Some examples would be sands of destruction,highschool of the dead,gurren laggen,needless,trinity blood,elfen lied,nabari,pumpkin scissors,Basilisk,burst angel, full metal panic and many others. My question is why has crunchyroll not licensed those titles?

Most of those titles you mentioned are from Funimation (18 per a quick count), who doesn't and isn't going to license to Crunchyroll. Unless I missed something, all but three of the remaining titles (Ghost in the Shell, Gurren Lagann, and Tokko) are Sentai, which does have relationship with Crunchyroll, but has only licensed a few catalog titles to CR, including Night Raid 1931 (which is what I assume you meant when you typed "night raid 1953"). Crunchyroll also has Blassreiter, and had it long before Netflix ever did. (I think it was one of the original Gonzo simulcasts CR had shortly before they went fully legit).

Your definition of what is and isn't "AAA" seems sure to generate its own discussion that will detract from what you are asking.



I know it costs $$ to license those titles, but why does netflix charge 7.99 for all of those, and have many movies and tv series all for 7.99.

If they can afford to put out so much more content for almost the same price as cr, why does cr not get more titles as well. Every one of those animes that i listed are on netflix right now! I have it turned on and i was reading all the shows form my watch it again section on netflix.

To be fair know Crunchyroll has many animes that netflix does not have, but i feel that netflix has better anime for the most part. Pretty much all cr has on netflix is the new naruto and bleach. And those are not the best animes anyway. So what are everyones thoughts on this? I really look forward to hearing what everyone has to say!

Netflix has over 20 million streaming subscribers (about 23 million according to the most recent info I found). By contrast, Crunchyroll had 70,000 members as of late last year, according to TV Tokyo. Even Hulu (which you might notice has a lot of anime), has about 1.5 million paid subscribers to Hulu Plus.

Even given that, are you aware of how little anime Netflix has added during the past year? Very, very little. Most of the titles they have were added back in late 2010. Perhaps not coincidentally, it was not long after that Funimation launched their own streaming subscription service and Sentai began their current relationship with Crunchyroll.

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Most of those titles you mentioned are from Funimation (18 per a quick count), who doesn't and isn't going to license to Crunchyroll.



Actually, there are some Funimation titles on Crunchyroll, such as Fairy Tail, Ikkitousen, Level E, Gankutsuou, and not too long ago, it was announced that the 2nd season of Hell Girl was coming to Crunchyroll.
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Thanks for the input everyone! I have learned a few things from your posts. To start, i did not notice that netflix has not released many new animes in the last year, but now that i think of it that is true.

I had a feeling that the number of netflix subscribers caused netflix to be able to have more shows at a similar price to cr, but to see the numbers really answers my question. It looks like for the number of subscribers that cr has compared to netflix, proves that cr does have a lot of shows for how little subscribers they have.

I just wish that cr would have a spot on this site, that showed previews of all the animes i listed above. A list of where to watch those animes, would help as well. When i started watching anime on cr, i thought cr had all the good anime that had came out, and was coming out. When i got netflix i felt a little cheated that cr did not have all of these good animes that netflix had. To be fair the anime that the first poster listed are not on netflix and netflix does not list animes that are on cr either, but its just my opinion that most of those animes he listed are not nearly as good as ones like darker than black,gungrave,tokko,ghost in the shell,tokyo majjin and so on.

In the end i guess its just my opinion that netflix has better anime than cr, but thats just my simple opinion. The exception to that is cr having steins;gate, that was a really good anime that netflix does not have. But i cant seem to find steins;gate anymore on cr anyway?:(.

Well thanks again for your posts everyone, it taught me a lot! Oh and dont get me wrong i still do love crunchyroll, i just wish in a perfect world that they would have more anime that i like.
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Actually, there are some Funimation titles on Crunchyroll, such as Fairy Tail, Ikkitousen, Level E, Gankutsuou, and not too long ago, it was announced that the 2nd season of Hell Girl was coming to Crunchyroll.

The 2nd (and 3rd) Hell Girl series are licensed by Sentai, not Funimation.

Ikki Tousen is provided under Media Blaster's license, and Funimation doesn't have the second series (Dragon Destiny), which Media Blasters also provided to Crunchryroll.

Fairy Tail and Level E were licensed by Crunchyroll long before Funimation licensed them. Kadokawa is one of the few companies that terminates CR's license after Funimation licenses a title, which is why Level E is still here. (Technically, CR's license for Fairy Tale and Funimation's don't overlap, as CR is only permitted to stream episodes from the past 30 days, while Funimation only recently licensed the second season).

Gankutsuou was a Gonzo title. You'll find it isn't the only pre-2009 Gonzo title that is licensed to both companies. Blassreiter, which I mentioned, is another. As I recall, those titles appeared first at Crunchyroll. (I wasn't paying much attention to Funimation's site in those days as they didn't do much streaming, but I don't recall seeing them there until later).

You'll also find some other titles that both sites have, such as Asobi ni Iku yo! (Cat Planet Cuties at Funimation) that both sites have, but again, CR had the license to this one well before Funimation (it was licensed as a simulcast), and it isn't a Kadokawa series.


The key is, if Funimation licenses something first, you won't see at Crunchyroll.



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You guys over in the states are so luck, the Canadian netflix has barely any anime(or other movies for that matter). The only shows we have are--Hell girl, ghost hound, D.gray-man,Trinity blood, Darker than black,Ouran, Samurai 7, Gunslinger girls, FMA, Mushishi, Fruits basket, and a few others(plus all those marvel animes). This makes crunchyroll my main source, since I'm actually able to watch the shows.
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Custom_1983_Z28 wrote:
In the end i guess its just my opinion that netflix has better anime than cr, but thats just my simple opinion. The exception to that is cr having steins;gate, that was a really good anime that netflix does not have. But i cant seem to find steins;gate anymore on cr anyway?:(.

Steins;Gate was later licensed by Funimation, and as it was a Kadokawa series, removed from Crunchyroll (at the end of last year, as I recall). Unfortunately, Funimation has not posted it for streaming on their site yet. Given that they have already announced the dub cast and posted a trailer for the dub, however, it should not be long before it appears there.

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I watched HSOD on netflix, and I think that is pretty much all.
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noraa3812 wrote:
Actually, there are some Funimation titles on Crunchyroll, such as Fairy Tail, Ikkitousen, Level E, Gankutsuou, and not too long ago, it was announced that the 2nd season of Hell Girl was coming to Crunchyroll.

The 2nd (and 3rd) Hell Girl series are licensed by Sentai, not Funimation.

Ikki Tousen is provided under Media Blaster's license, and Funimation doesn't have the second series (Dragon Destiny), which Media Blasters also provided to Crunchryroll.

Fairy Tail and Level E were licensed by Crunchyroll long before Funimation licensed them. Kadokawa is one of the few companies that terminates CR's license after Funimation licenses a title, which is why Level E is still here. (Technically, CR's license for Fairy Tale and Funimation's don't overlap, as CR is only permitted to stream episodes from the past 30 days, while Funimation only recently licensed the second season).

Gankutsuou was a Gonzo title. You'll find it isn't the only pre-2009 Gonzo title that is licensed to both companies. Blassreiter, which I mentioned, is another. As I recall, those titles appeared first at Crunchyroll. (I wasn't paying much attention to Funimation's site in those days as they didn't do much streaming, but I don't recall seeing them there until later).

You'll also find some other titles that both sites have, such as Asobi ni Iku yo! (Cat Planet Cuties at Funimation) that both sites have, but again, CR had the license to this one well before Funimation (it was licensed as a simulcast), and it isn't a Kadokawa series.


The key is, if Funimation licenses something first, you won't see at Crunchyroll.




(in reference to Hell Girl) I was wondering why Hulu only had the 2nd and 3rd seasons of Hell Girl. I figured it might some business decision by Funimation to encourage people to buy a subscription to see the first season before watching the latter 2 for free. I didn't realize they only had the first season. It's unfortunate though, because I would like to see the first season before watching the latter 2. But unfortunately, I have no job right now, so getting a subscription is out of the question. I'm also waiting for Crunchyroll to post the first seasons of Moyashimon and Dog Days before I start the second seasons, which they said they would.

(in reference to Gonzo) Did something happen in 2009 where Gonzo stopped licensing to both companies?
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I really enjoy both Crunchy Roll and Netflix. Netflix has dub which I don't mind but I do find sub a lot more enjoyable. Both have good anime's like other people have said but Crunch Roll is specialized in anime meaning they are updating with more anime's where Netflix has a broad range of things to watch meaning that they don't really put a lot of anime's up. I like Crunchy Roll the best but that is my opinion
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I don't think Netflix has a bigger or better variety of anime. I think the people that subscribe to Netflix don't do it just for the anime. Those who like movies and tv shows just as much as anime or maybe a smidgen more will most likely choose Netflix. It almost seems unfair to compare Netflix and CR for that reason. CR is more of a specialty shop. On a side note: I am not ashamed to say that I prefer anime dubs when they're good. Inuyasha is a good dub in my opinion but it is subbed on Netflix. Jokes and dialog are just different in dubbed versions. That isn't due to just language but rather cultural differences. I appreciate that as a native speaker of English. But back to my point, I first got a CR membership for the anime selection. I do have a Netflix account. There's always something I can find to watch on Netflix. But on CR it can be a few weeks or more until I can find something else to watch. I thought of getting a Funimation membership but figured it'd be the same thing. So I can see why if people had to pay for only one thing they would choose Netflix.
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You guys over in the states are so luck, the Canadian netflix has barely any anime(or other movies for that matter).

Since the shows on Funimation's website are also available to persons in Canada, you may want to check them out. Like Crunchyroll, they offer a free 2 week trial (and like CR start billing you at the end if you don't cancel). If you view on a mobile device, you may want to consider purchasing their $10 app, which gives you access to many more episodes than viewing free on their website (although still with ads).

A tip: If viewing the Funimation videos on their website, use Chrome. It won't make navigating their website any faster, but it does seem to resolve login issues and issues with the video player either not appearing (some Firefox installations), or being slow to start (IE).




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(in reference to Gonzo) Did something happen in 2009 where Gonzo stopped licensing to both companies?

As I understand it, they were pretty much on the ropes financially around that time. As far as I recall, they didn't release any new anime after that time until mid-2011.

Apparently my recollection is correct, since if you check the Gonzo page on Wikipedia, you'll note the TV series listing skips 2010. The Wikipedia page also reminds me there were a three 2009 Gonzo series, all of which CR simlucast, but until this year, only The Tower of Druaga: the Sword of URUK was also licensed to Funimation, while they licensed Shangri-La earlier this year. (Saki was the third one, although it changed from Gonzo to another studio during production).




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I don't think Netflix has a bigger or better variety of anime. I think the people that subscribe to Netflix don't do it just for the anime. Those who like movies and tv shows just as much as anime or maybe a smidgen more will most likely choose Netflix. It almost seems unfair to compare Netflix and CR for that reason. CR is more of a specialty shop. On a side note: I am not ashamed to say that I prefer anime dubs when they're good. Inuyasha is a good dub in my opinion but it is subbed on Netflix. Jokes and dialog are just different in dubbed versions. That isn't due to just language but rather cultural differences. I appreciate that as a native speaker of English. But back to my point, I first got a CR membership for the anime selection. I do have a Netflix account. There's always something I can find to watch on Netflix. But on CR it can be a few weeks or more until I can find something else to watch. I thought of getting a Funimation membership but figured it'd be the same thing. So I can see why if people had to pay for only one thing they would choose Netflix.

I'll admit that even given a mediocre dub, if both it and the sub are available to me at the same time, I'll watch the dub simply because it makes for a better viewing experience. A case in point was Shiki, which I didn't watch originally when Funimation simulcast it, and kept putting off, and then by the time I considered watching it, the dub was available. (Great series, IMHO).

One difference about Funimation is that if you get the Elite membership, everything that gets a DVD release has a dub available to you online. They also make those dubs available the day of release. As I noted in my reply to Pengwee above, they offer a two week trial, so why not give it a shot? The biggest current negative about Funimation's streaming is not the content, but their website. Navigation is very sluggish, and their video player (at least the one for Elite members) has issues with many Firefox installations and also IE. It seems quite clear whoever coded their website did most of their testing in Chrome, as it works much better. I actually gave up after several months of Firefox not displaying their player, and problems with IE and installed Chrome just for using their website.

FYI, they have portable apps for iOS and Android, and a just introduced a tablet app for both that supports HD, and a Roku app that supports HD is also due within a couple of weeks.

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