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I havent had any system lockups since the patch, I will say that, so I do believe they have made some progress.
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Well the main issue now is why does the update only fix some ps3's. Right now its 60/40 the high number being problems that havent changed. Then again this is a sony problem which i like ps3 but its unfortunately known to have alot of issues. But yeah as of right now i cancelled my premium membership until this storm passes sorry guys. =(
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So Mr. Bjaker, any word on the next patch? ..has one been submitted, so we can expect one next week?=P
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reynoldszac wrote:

Well the main issue now is why does the update only fix some ps3's. Right now its 60/40 the high number being problems that havent changed. Then again this is a sony problem which i like ps3 but its unfortunately known to have alot of issues. But yeah as of right now i cancelled my premium membership until this storm passes sorry guys. =(


Why would it be a Sony problem? Isn't the hardware + software pretty much the same, except the size of the HD? I don't buy it..someone how the other streaming apps must done some kind of magic to make it work on all the other systems =P
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Suicidalducky wrote:


reynoldszac wrote:

Well the main issue now is why does the update only fix some ps3's. Right now its 60/40 the high number being problems that havent changed. Then again this is a sony problem which i like ps3 but its unfortunately known to have alot of issues. But yeah as of right now i cancelled my premium membership until this storm passes sorry guys. =(


Why would it be a Sony problem? Isn't the hardware + software pretty much the same, except the size of the HD? I don't buy it..someone how the other streaming apps must done some kind of magic to make it work on all the other systems =P


It would be highly illegal for those running Crunchyroll to steal someone's code, lmao. People develop it themselves for different companies. It's not like someone can steal copyrighted code or applications and just use it for themselves, something that had to be painstakingly developed. It's not like they can say to the people at Netflix; 'Hey guys! We're going to use everything you people have created yourselves and go into competition with you! It's cool, don't sue us or anything'.
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Suicidalducky wrote:


reynoldszac wrote:

Well the main issue now is why does the update only fix some ps3's. Right now its 60/40 the high number being problems that havent changed. Then again this is a sony problem which i like ps3 but its unfortunately known to have alot of issues. But yeah as of right now i cancelled my premium membership until this storm passes sorry guys. =(


Why would it be a Sony problem? Isn't the hardware + software pretty much the same, except the size of the HD? I don't buy it..someone how the other streaming apps must done some kind of magic to make it work on all the other systems =P


Those "other" companies you are referring too have A LOT MORE money than CR does and thus they are able to hire teams of programmers who specialize in making the app. They can afford to pay top dollar for the best developers for each platform. CR does not have a huge budget and thus are not able to hire as much help to create their apps and fix the bugs in the same amount of time as the "other" big companies that have millions to throw at a problem.

The dev kits are the same, but it is how you can use it. A video streaming app that has 10 very experienced developers is going to be better and fixed lot faster than a video streaming app that only has 1 or 2 less experience developers. You have to remember that CR is still in its infancy. Just be glad that CR is expanding as fast as they are. Hulu supports less devices than CR yet they have the financial backing of multi-billion dollar TV studios. Hell, I don't even think Netflix supports as many devices as CR.

Its not magic, its money.

I think CR is playing the saturation game by getting the service available on as many platforms as possible, however they may be stretching their resources a bit thin. The iOS app is a good example, it has not been updated in over a year (Although Bjaker says that there is an update awaiting Apple's approval). I think that CR has enough saturation now and they need to start focusing on getting what they already have working before expanding to more platforms.
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Hulu supports less devices than CR yet they have the financial backing of multi-billion dollar TV studios. Hell, I don't even think Netflix supports as many devices as CR.

I'll definitely have to disagree with you on Netflix. If a toaster had a video display and a network connection, Netflix would probably be on it. For Hulu, it depends on whether you are talking Hulu (essentially computers only) or Hulu Plus (more than CR).

Netflix devices supported (hover over each logo to expand the list):
https://signup.netflix.com/Watch

Hulu Plus devices:
http://www.hulu.com/plus/devices/

Crunchyroll devices.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/devices

One of the striking differences you will notice is that both Netflix and Hulu Plus are available on Apple TV (Hulu Plus being a recent addition there), while CR is not.

On the game consoles, CR is only on the PS3, while Netflix and Hulu Plus are also available on the XBOX 360, Wii, and, 3DS (although for some reason Netflix doesn't seem to list it on the page I linked to earlier, but Nintendo does list it). The Vita is also another one that is listed elsewhere by Netflix, but I couldn't find on the main page.

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-Chris311- wrote:

Those "other" companies you are referring too have A LOT MORE money than CR does and thus they are able to hire teams of programmers who specialize in making the app. They can afford to pay top dollar for the best developers for each platform. CR does not have a huge budget and thus are not able to hire as much help to create their apps and fix the bugs in the same amount of time as the "other" big companies that have millions to throw at a problem.

The dev kits are the same, but it is how you can use it. A video streaming app that has 10 very experienced developers is going to be better and fixed lot faster than a video streaming app that only has 1 or 2 less experience developers. You have to remember that CR is still in its infancy. Just be glad that CR is expanding as fast as they are. Hulu supports less devices than CR yet they have the financial backing of multi-billion dollar TV studios. Hell, I don't even think Netflix supports as many devices as CR.

Its not magic, its money.

I think CR is playing the saturation game by getting the service available on as many platforms as possible, however they may be stretching their resources a bit thin. The iOS app is a good example, it has not been updated in over a year (Although Bjaker says that there is an update awaiting Apple's approval). I think that CR has enough saturation now and they need to start focusing on getting what they already have working before expanding to more platforms.


Yes, I know they have more money. Obviously the money helps in hiring talent to fix the issue, but I was replying to the other guy to ask "how is this a Sony problem? =P Is this a Sony problem that the app is not working properly? don't see it as their problem because the others (with MORE money (MAGIC!) lol, due to the talent pool) have no issues..as you stated.. the lack of resources & saturation problemcaused this in the end ..


I wish they didn't release it in the form they have it in; it should have been "it will be released when its READY" =P. I'm not sure if i'm in the minority..or whatever but yeah it has left a bad taste in my mouth..and I'm hoping it won't get worse.
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I retract my previous statement, it has been a while since I have looked at either's device list and was not expecting them to grow so fast.


I was also thinking more along the lines of device platform. CR's list looks a lot smaller than it really is because they only list the platforms, and not individual devices. Even then I think platform wise CR is pretty close to Hulu, less so with Netflix but still has a much larger amount of platforms than one would expect considering CRs past.

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Suicidalducky wrote:
I wish they didn't release it in the form they have it in; it should have been "it will be released when its READY" =P. I'm not sure if i'm in the minority..or whatever but yeah it has left a bad taste in my mouth..and I'm hoping it won't get worse.

Crunchyroll had stated the app would be released in the summer, yet they had people asking "Where is it?" and claiming "Summer is almost over!" shortly before its release (despite the fact summer was actually only a bit over a month old at the time). They were clearly under external pressure to get it out the door ASAP, and given that this has been in the works since at least last fall, possibly there was internal pressure as well.

The fact that Viz's Neon Alley service will be launching on the PS3 in September was also likely a factor pushing the launch. While the two services are quite different, it wouldn't do to have publicity for it stealing the spotlight.

It would have been nice if CR could have done a public beta test first; sign up a limited number of people that already had premium memberships (so no laments of "30 day free trial going to waste"), and iron out any bugs there, expanding the beta as fewer bugs were found, and then going public. That said, for all I know, there may be something in Sony's terms of service that prevented them from doing it that way.

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I have the original Fat PS3 w/ 80GB HDD, and I am still getting the video stuttering issues here. @.@;
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The lag is better since the patch and I've had 90% fewer crashes but the main crash I'm gonna complain about is that when I start scrolling though the episodes of any given series very very fast(watching the numbers as it flys by) the app still blackscreens. I have a Model#CECHA01 which is one of the original two models but it's been upgraded to a 320 gig HDD.

The other issue is that if I add certain series to my queue on my PC that aren't displayed on the PS3's list you can't play then. If you do the app crashes and blackscreens. It'd be nice if there was some sort of message that said "This is not available on the ps3" if it won't play instead of crashing the app.
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Didn't really get to spend much time on it after it updated, but I would definitely say the "lag" problem is worse. Rather than missing a line or two I am now missing whole bits of dialogue between characters. The lag during "quick motion" scenes seems a lot better though.
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PS3 Fat, 20Mb/5Mb, wired connection.

The freezing went away for the most part, but the menu system still seems to have a bit of a problem where it slows down the device, like memory and CPU is being used and never released; more so in the queue area than the general browsing.

Video performance is still an issues, but seems to be better. It still delays the video while the audio is playing, then the video catches up and is sometimes out of sync. This happens anywhere from 3-11 times per episode and only on HD video streams so far.

Still not quite useable for me, but it was definately an improvement here.

I wish there was a way to set the max reslution/quality that an account can play on device, say 720p instead of 1080p when 1080p is available.

Switched back to my PC for now, I have this bookmarked and check back each day. =)

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jttt3 wrote:

PS3 Fat, 20Mb/5Mb, wired connection.

The freezing went away for the most part, but the menu system still seems to have a bit of a problem where it slows down the device, like memory and CPU is being used and never released; more so in the queue area than the general browsing.

Video performance is still an issues, but seems to be better. It still delays the video while the audio is playing, then the video catches up and is sometimes out of sync. This happens anywhere from 3-11 times per episode and only on HD video streams so far.

Still not quite useable for me, but it was definately an improvement here.

I wish there was a way to set the max reslution/quality that an account can play on device, say 720p instead of 1080p when 1080p is available.

Switched back to my PC for now, I have this bookmarked and check back each day. =)



I'm having the same problems still, and I have the slim, wired connection, with 15mb/1.5mb speeds.
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