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Posted 12/23/12 , edited 12/23/12
Most shows you don't notice it because the subtitles are placed fairly high up. I'll ask around in the shows and see if anyone else notices it.

But I did manage to fix it, if you can call it a fix lol.

I restricted the output of the PS3 to 480p and the subtitles showed up fine. At 720p and 1080i, the subtitles (half of them) are cut off at the beginning of Tower of Druaga. ( http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-tower-of-druaga-the-aegis-of-uruk-/episode-1-the-great-tower-of-druaga-317861 )

I have this Samsung TV ( http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/LN-S4692D ), and I think the overscan you're talking about is the Zoom function on the TV. That's the only thing I can think of that alters view area of the screen, but I can't "zoom" in HD. I can only mess with the aspect ratio, and that doesn't change the amount of picture I can view.
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Posted 12/23/12

alefin wrote:

Most shows you don't notice it because the subtitles are placed fairly high up. I'll ask around in the shows and see if anyone else notices it.

But I did manage to fix it, if you can call it a fix lol.

I restricted the output of the PS3 to 480p and the subtitles showed up fine. At 720p and 1080i, the subtitles (half of them) are cut off at the beginning of Tower of Druaga. ( http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-tower-of-druaga-the-aegis-of-uruk-/episode-1-the-great-tower-of-druaga-317861 )

I have this Samsung TV ( http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/LN-S4692D ), and I think the overscan you're talking about is the Zoom function on the TV. That's the only thing I can think of that alters view area of the screen, but I can't "zoom" in HD. I can only mess with the aspect ratio, and that doesn't change the amount of picture I can view.

As I expected, the subtitles for that episode hug the bottom of the screen (image reduced to fit forum limits):


There is one way I see you can check if the TV is cutting off the image: If you activate the PIP (picture in picture) function with the PS3 input as the small image, are the subtitles cut off in the small image? (You probably won't be able to read them, but you should be able to make out if they are cut off). The PIP will likely show the entire frame regardless of any other settings.

Frankly, it concerns me that this TV mentions more than once that the HDMI input does not support PC use. As any decent PC can output a HDMI signal that is fully electronically compatible with any consumer electronics device, the only reason I can see for that would be if the display were overscanned.

I also notice if you select the screen aspect ratio with the P.SIZE button on the remote, you can move the screen up or down. Moving it up the maximum might also reveal if the TV is cutting off the image.

You may want to check if these instructions work with your Samsung:
http://www.ehow.com/how_8738467_fix-overscan-samsung-hdtv.html

It appears with newer Samsung HDTV sets the non-overscan mode just appear as "Just Scan" when you cycle through the options with the P.SIZE button. This mode was sometimes added in a firmware update, although there doesn't appear to be one for your model.


FYI, from what I could find out in forum posts elsewhere from other owners of the LN-S4692D, it does overscan.
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Posted 12/23/12

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alefin wrote:

Most shows you don't notice it because the subtitles are placed fairly high up. I'll ask around in the shows and see if anyone else notices it.

But I did manage to fix it, if you can call it a fix lol.

I restricted the output of the PS3 to 480p and the subtitles showed up fine. At 720p and 1080i, the subtitles (half of them) are cut off at the beginning of Tower of Druaga. ( http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-tower-of-druaga-the-aegis-of-uruk-/episode-1-the-great-tower-of-druaga-317861 )

I have this Samsung TV ( http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/LN-S4692D ), and I think the overscan you're talking about is the Zoom function on the TV. That's the only thing I can think of that alters view area of the screen, but I can't "zoom" in HD. I can only mess with the aspect ratio, and that doesn't change the amount of picture I can view.

As I expected, the subtitles for that episode hug the bottom of the screen (image reduced to fit forum limits):


There is one way I see you can check if the TV is cutting off the image: If you activate the PIP (picture in picture) function with the PS3 input as the small image, are the subtitles cut off in the small image? (You probably won't be able to read them, but you should be able to make out if they are cut off). The PIP will likely show the entire frame regardless of any other settings.

Frankly, it concerns me that this TV mentions more than once that the HDMI input does not support PC use. As any decent PC can output a HDMI signal that is fully electronically compatible with any consumer electronics device, the only reason I can see for that would be if the display were overscanned.

I also notice if you select the screen aspect ratio with the P.SIZE button on the remote, you can move the screen up or down. Moving it up the maximum might also reveal if the TV is cutting off the image.

You may want to check if these instructions work with your Samsung:
http://www.ehow.com/how_8738467_fix-overscan-samsung-hdtv.html

It appears with newer Samsung HDTV sets the non-overscan mode just appear as "Just Scan" when you cycle through the options with the P.SIZE button. This mode was sometimes added in a firmware update, although there doesn't appear to be one for your model.


FYI, from what I could find out in forum posts elsewhere from other owners of the LN-S4692D, it does overscan.


I PIP'ed it and it still shows up like this. If it is overscanned, I don't think I can fix it and that link pointed to some functions that aren't on my TV.





As far as the HDMI input goes for PC, I dunno I usually just pipe it through my AV receiver into my TV so that's not really an issue for me if I want to use my TV as a monitor. I didn't realize that wasn't normal.
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Posted 12/24/12

alefin wrote:
As far as the HDMI input goes for PC, I dunno I usually just pipe it through my AV receiver into my TV so that's not really an issue for me if I want to use my TV as a monitor. I didn't realize that wasn't normal.

I would expect that if you were feeding a PC signal into the HDMI port on that HDTV, the task bar would be slightly cropped at the bottom, unless you've previously made adjustments in the video driver to compensate for that. By contrast, the VGA port would be set up for a true 1:1 pixel display.

Unfortunately, unless the PS3 itself has some type of underscan control, or at least changing the picture position (so you could move it up), I don't see a ready solution to it.

Designing a flat panel display with overscan enabled is bad enough, but not even supporting a means of turning it off is downright criminal.

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Posted 12/24/12
Yeah, I remember it was cropped, which confused me lol
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Posted 12/24/12 , edited 12/24/12
Sorry if these have already been posted but it seems impratical to read 60 pages of posts to avoid a repeat. I've had two recurring problems on my fourth generation system:
1. The app seems to randomly kill itself dropping you back to the systems UI.
2. We have to rely on the website and the queue list to watch videos since going through the video lists on the system causes a "Black Screen of Death" that blocks all controller input. I have to manual press the power button on the system to shutdown and restart to clear it.
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Posted 12/24/12
I don't know if this has been talked about or not, but, it seems that about 70% of the episodes i try to play, of anything, will not play smoothly. Meaning that it will play for 20-30 odd seconds, then stop for 4 or 5 seconds, and repeat this. I have tried pausing the video to let it buffer, but it immediately resumes that issue as soon as i start playing again. I have had it happen, and then not happen, on the same episodes. I've had it run fine, then start the problem as soon as the next episode of a show starts. I don't know what the problem is, but it makes things very much unwatchable. I'd love if I could find a solution.
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Posted 12/24/12
Can I log into my CR account onto my own PS3 as well as my cousin's when I go over to their house, without any problems?
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Posted 12/25/12
hi i was wondering if its normal for the app to load and pause after 3sec am i doin some thin wrong?????
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Posted 12/25/12
beep. black screen. hard reset
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Please help!

At first after watching anime for a bit, episodes would just be black screens. Nothing would play anymore.

I tried for days and decided to just unistall the app and reinstall it. That went fine but when I try to load the app it says that I need to install an update but it won't download the update at all. The progress bar never moves and then it just says error after like 10 minutes of nothing.

Any solutions?


EDIT

I've already restarted my ps3, restarted my router and ps3, updated the DNS stuff. Nothing has worked so far.
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Posted 12/26/12
The issue I'm having with the video playback looks to be with me, happening on my PC too.
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Posted 12/26/12 , edited 12/26/12

alefin wrote:

Yeah, I remember it was cropped, which confused me lol



I know you mentioned earlier that you can't zoom in HD, but what happens when you keep hitting the zoom button and cycle through the different views? On my Samsung TV the "zoom" button is called P. Size (short for Picture Size) and it will eventually cycle through to a complete full screen view, instead of a "Cinema" zoom type crop field that looks like what your TV is set to. It works with the display set at 1080p as well.
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Posted 12/26/12 , edited 12/26/12

ShinAmaterasu wrote:

The issue I'm having with the video playback looks to be with me, happening on my PC too.


What is the issue exactly?

Follow the format that the first post of this thread has laid out to make it easier to help troubleshoot.
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Posted 12/26/12

InariRamen wrote:

Please help!

At first after watching anime for a bit, episodes would just be black screens. Nothing would play anymore.

I tried for days and decided to just unistall the app and reinstall it. That went fine but when I try to load the app it says that I need to install an update but it won't download the update at all. The progress bar never moves and then it just says error after like 10 minutes of nothing.

Any solutions?


EDIT

I've already restarted my ps3, restarted my router and ps3, updated the DNS stuff. Nothing has worked so far.


There is a memory leak that occurs after prolong use of the app. For now, the best solution is to restart your PS3 after watching a few episodes before the memory leak becomes too big.

As for the update not downloading, that is an issue with the Playstation Network and you need to contact the PSN support to help with downloading and updating the app.
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