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I too have faith that there is more good than bad, and I've certainly seen my fair share. I think it's a lot easier to focus on the negative aspects sometimes. It was a pleasure exchanging a few thoughts with you. You seem like a positive person; continue being you.

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I'm not religious
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Plus its just how you where brainwashed as a child, if you were raised in a jewish famly, you become jewish, if you were raised in a christian, family you become christian, etc etc etc






I was raised Christian, Roman Catholic Christian, but it isn't about Darwinism, there are ways for that to work into the bible, very much as the Dinosaurs work into the bible. It is based off of interpretation of the bible itself. The problem is that most religions, and especially the Roman Catholic Church have had so much rapid and immoral change in their past, that it is hard to imagine them being on what their own truth really is any more. At this point it is hard to imagine religions having much use other than teaching some morals. Conquistador has his facts straight, but... the problem is that if there is a God, it is incorrect to assume how to praise them, and how do you know you are doing it correctly when Humans have passed down the stories of God for thousands of years, and those too changed. Even God's personality changed between the old testament and the new testament.

It is illogical to imagine, or have any great amount in faith that such events happened. Even historians have to change and edit history books since the victor always changes the story to their perspective, and evidence has to be found to clarify what has actually happened.

I know what it was to love a God, as I did, blindly, since I thought it was the right thing to do, since I thought it made me a better person, but when I realized how wrong it is to praise ANY God, I sat still, and was shamed by my family for a long time. I learned this, and became a neutral force when it came to religion, and similarly, I was brought up as a Republican, and I had to choose who I would vote for in the last election, so I did, I voted for what laws and social policies were on the vote, but I did not like either candidate.

At this point, I have decided to ask the world, myself, and others, what is the things we know. As a great thinker once said, the only thing we know is that we exist... at the moment we are thinking. The conclusion is " I think, therefore I exist."

See, even with what evidence both sides in this dispute or conversation pull up, neither side will probably switch. Reason? Atheists don't realize we don't know anything as humanity when compared to the vastness that is out there for us. The other problem, is that many believers of religions, have what they call a "blind faith", which is beautiful, but is there like an illusion. I have to say that it IS possible for a God to exist, even the Christian God, since everything does fit into the bible, BUT the way the Church has tampered with its teachings and interpretations have ruined any hope of being truly a Roman Catholic. Humans are imperfect, and therefore, so are their acts. Their acts are also imperfect, and therefore what acts of praise can we even hope to share towards an almighty, all knowing being?

On a human perspective, it is wrong to attack the religious, but it is also wrong to know about the wrong, and continue to be religious without concern and a leash.

The problem is that the "truth" can never be found, but rather only searched for, but we should search for that truth in a neutral opinion, without being tugged politically, religiously, or in any other matter. To each person, they should think without past experience and influence beckoning them. I have left the beckoning far behind, and I invite many others to find for themselves their own truth... and by following that truth, find their answer to a truly happy society of human beings.

There is so much I can say on this topic, but when you think the brand you label yourself is righteous, you learn it is not... but after the fondness of such a title, we grow to grasp closely to it, without regard for other possibilities, or what our brand actually is worth.




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I am not really sure whether I would be considered Agnostic, Atheist, or any other name when asked if I am religious. I am definitely not Christian, as the beliefs there have been skewed too far throughout history to be taken seriously. Back in medieval times, the men who ran the church often made up things, such as "holy documents" that cost money, that would take away your sins. Even if there was a God, the Christians of then have skewed the "Truth" of the religion past what can be fully uncovered. There probably was an original religion, but somewhere down the line, corrupt officials skewed the beliefs, and later when people realized this, they broke off of the main religion's leftovers, and created their own faiths, hoping that theirs would be closer to the truth than the past ones have been.

I was born and raised a Roman Catholic Christian, but after learning about the many other perspectives in life, and many different philosophies, I have learned that staying a Christian becomes counter intuitive, since you would be risking worshiping God in the wrong way, since human kind has altered the story since early on. If there was one ultimate God who wished for people not to worship another, then there would be no other belief. Sure he gives free will, but when you go back to the bible, the many stories of him interfering with us is just a count way too many,

I know much about the faith, even more than some other religious folks... Deuteronomy, and some of the other stories from the old testament counter the beliefs of the modern bible. The other problem is that in both testaments, the bible clearly disapproves of what is shown to be correct today. The worst part of this is that some of the Christians who realize this, cannot tell others, or they will have themselves, and their family shamed by their community. I long lived through that, and after finally telling my family, I was shunned, and turned down, and punished. Others sometimes will create their own beliefs to satisfy what is wrong with the church today. But most will agree on the presence of God, which I do not know of, but will probably never find out. The culture and teachings can be wonderful, and very beautiful. Though, saying that, the Church has lied as much as politicians, tricked people more than many magicians, falsely led people, like a butcher and his blind cattle, and hated other equal human beings more than you could ever hate another person in this modern society of ours.

I am not saying the people following the religion is evil, or wrong, but I am saying that the religion itself has been displayed like kind doctor, teacher, and parent, when history shows that the same religion let poor patients die, while only saving those with proper coin, and a teacher who changes the lessons to match her personal opinions, and a parent who beat their children when they found out the truth, and shunned them away for many years.

Now, my best friend is still a Christian, but many times I wonder if it is still because of his parents, or his community, but I don't dare tell him to rethink his life, or his ways of life, since I do not press my views on anyone. I post them, yes, but only to share what I have known to be true.

Now, our community is mainly that of japan enthusiasts, Anime lovers, manga lovers, etc... etc... and in many of our animes, they may portray a religion. They make it seems as if one way is wrong and another is right, but both sides are "good". Even the worst of villains have a reason for their actions, and each reason is good.

As one great philosopher put it, why should I hate a man who loves himself more than me?

Being me, I like to add, saying, for if I hate him for that reason alone, am I no better for loving me over him?

Basically, if I could, I would like to see someone who never learns of what a religion is, and without parents nudging their beliefs politically or religiously... to see what they think of the world around them. Would they ask themselves questions? Or would they simply live life? Would they create their own theory/ religion about the world? Or would they figure out that they don't know. There are so many possibilities.

Personally, I do not believe in an "evil" person... I believe any evils blamed on them are because they are evil actions against a society... but those actions are ALWAYS granted from a circumstance in that individuals life. The reasoning can be strong for different people compared with others. If one says I did it because I simply wanted to, or I want to be evil, there is a logical reason for it, and it is justified. I don't care as well.

If you wanted to, it may seem like a weak answer, but behind it, there can be anger, hate, depression, anxiety, loneliness, and many other deep emotions that most of us have not yet felt. The circumstance of being, or of mental illness can also be seen as a reason, since it makes all reasoning illogical at best. I don't care is when one feels cut off from the world, detached, and sees the world as a giant plaything. They cannot conceive the value of their own life, or another's. And finally, the ones who wish to have the title of being evil itself. They wish to be despised, but they may also wish to be known, feared, acknowledged, respected... and so on.

If someone was taught one way, and you know differently, and actions clash, that becomes opposing evils to each. The best thing to do is not take action unless action has already been took. In such a way, an eye for an eye will weaken out those who fail to dismiss such differences.

"Friendly thoughts for you! For such are welcomed! Though my outwardly thoughts be untrue... Twisted and tied, these thoughts tend to be, unraveling the secrets that never existed and no one will ever see. Such attachments in this world are few, weak, and dull... Now, my feelings are felt as blade through skull!"

-My own poem to describe the psychotic, manic, and "Evil" perspective many people have today....

Think for yourself.... if you are unaffected by the situations, and circumstances that hold others down, then take off, and learn about your world, your existence. Share a long discussion with others about the world, and about yourself, and continue until you can both agree upon the world in one unified view. Then, go to another, a person further detached from you, and again discuss and share. Repeat the cycle, until you never again run into another that can change your views. Don't be stubborn and maintain a belief that your belief is greater, or more superior, but be open to a new perspective, and many changes about your own opinions.

Finally, I say that if such dedication was created to find the truth of the world, then truly, there would be a world peace, and a great interconnection that can be repeated across the many generations of people to come. No one would create a war, a fight, an anger... unless one was affected by a situation, or circumstance, but if that so happened, others could easily sympathize, and help those individuals and prevent such harsh actions being seen in the world again. Everyone would be neutral, changing their own beliefs to what they have learned to be the truth by themselves, and by others. Without telling other people simply... to survive, you must believe this or that, it is now, if you wish to know, then go find out.

Call me what you want, talk about what I have figured out. That is what I strive for. I need others who do oppose my views to take it to me, so I can see what I am doing wrong, or further solidify what i already know. In any case,

I can be messaged further about this topic, or matter by an e-mail at...

Emerald_Mercy@Yahoo.com

[Please title the e-mail "(Your Name)'s thoughts"]

Helps me see who has read through the whole article, and also what the e-mail is about.

I hope to see many e-mails... from many people... about many different subjects and ideas.



Oh, and as an afterthought... you can also send me a private message on Crunchyroll.





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Where did "too fast for science to see" come from? On this subject, the claim is that it happened too gradually to meet the arbitrary criteria you've insisted apon. (Also, coincidentally, too slowly to be reconcilable with a literal interpretation of the account given by the Bible.) What you've asked for is akin to tracking the movement of the hour-hand on an analog clock by eyesight over the course of a single second.


My apologies. I didn't clarify that I was referring to macroevolution as the professor was talking about. But here's the thing...why aren't there at least one example? In order for a theory to be a theory, there must have been some statement which you could test (I think refutable is simpler, but hey).


Your notion of 'test' is excessively narrow. Expand it to reasonable grounds, and natural selection passes:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA210.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA202.html

I do find it interesting, though, that you are so dismissive of inference when 'intelligent design' relies so heavily on it as well. Biblical apologists weren't there either; why should we believe them?


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I don't recall having ever lusted after another person. I have experienced envy, both with and without guilt, but not lust.
well, you admitted to guilt, and thats a start. But I dare you to show me the source which shows an absolute moral issue (murder, covetousness, stealing, adultery) as having been manufactured in a society.


Bad question; these things are not absolute. Look to any Objectivist, and you'll see the glorification of greed (covetousness.) Look to the sexual revolution of the 70's, and you'll see adultery thrown to the winds.

Murder is a bit of an exception, but it's also a tautology; the word itself means "wrong killing." However, there are many culturally variable concepts of when a killing is and isn't 'wrong.' Debate rages over capital punishment and abortion (and ironically, those who support one frequently oppose the other), for one example. In Deuteronomy 7, the people of your god are commanded to commit genocide; it's not 'murder' because it's 'righteous.'

Theft? We in America live on stolen land, and few of us feel any guilt over it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil

Here is what data we have that Darwinism evolution does have merit.

And I can go on for hours how this theory actually fits into the bible... so technically, you can say that Roman Catholic Christians are right, as well as the Atheists on this page pushing one another.

The major changes included are Ape to Man, Raptor to Bird, Fish to animal, from bulbed plant to seeded plant, and so many more.



Now, let me explain how I as a scientific Roman Catholic interpreted the bible to include this data that supports something thought normally to go against the church...

God was said to make the universe in several steps, but the most important steps was the step before he made man...

Genesis 1
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The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

Now, there is a great quote taught in the church, is that "A Day to God, is a thousand to man" NOT LITERALLY 1,000! But MANY! Many many many years...

This means that the days that God created the Earth were not just 7 Days... but rather many years, which allows the fish in the sea, the beasts of the sea, and the animals that crawl to form, and yes, evolve. Man, as we know so far, derives from other primates, and in God's plan, he did make man! He made them out of nothing just like in the bible. It took a while for monkeys to follow God's hand in changing into man.... many of thousands of years according to the bible.

Now, you may be saying to yourself... "Yay! Atheists are right!" or on the contrary... "Yay! Christians are right!" But, before you even think about that, think that since this interpretation of the bible can easily be off, that both of us can be wrong, or right... But as a good little Catholic boy, that is how I interpreted the world. It worked, but I left the Church not because I thought that the entire teachings were wrong, I just thought they may have had errors, and misleading, and wrong translations throughout the Bible, and the teachings over time. But since I don't think it is way too off, it wasn't a problem.

Now, the problem I had reaches much deeper into religion, in that history has shown treachery, human imperfection, war, hate, strife, and many other terrors that many do not speak of, or do not simply know. Because of our nature of imperfection, we cannot claim a perfect knowledge other than what proves itself in itself without having a circular reasoning.

At this, I invite you to give me your answer...

For the Christians... why doesn't this theory work for you? Or why does it work for you?

And for the Atheists... Why doesn't this appease you to know that there is a possibility of a God? Or, why does it?

For other religions, I invite you to analyze your teachings and works, and see how they can fit in with what data we already have.

For the Agnostics, you might or might not have a similar perspective. Is it the same, or different, and explain why...

For anyone else who does not follow any of the above titles or brands... give me your perspective on this matter.

And for everyone, let us think in harmony... as we should, all while sharing our thoughts, and allowing our opinions of the world change based off of any new found knowledge we may gain in this conversation.

Like I have with many other folks, we have come up to solutions for controversial issues as this. Most recognized was the discussion I had about abortion. There we found an answer, that no one seemed to have a problem with... But, that is another topic to share with you if you wish to hear of it.

I can send you the link to the discussion if you wish.

Remember, My thoughts are yours, and yours are mine, if we can only agree to share, and never agree to disagree... I am here to listen, and talk... and most importantly... think.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil

Well since you asked, I will give an answer or two. I do sincerely hope you find this essay written in good taste, as I do wish you the best and am concerned for you as my God also is in not wishing any to perish.

but those claims were later proven as fraudulent as the Trojan Horse was about peace. I will debunk every major references from that Wikipedia site (which would normally get you an 'F' in school if you cited Wikipedia).

Example #1 Archaeopteryx - Proven NOT a link

Dr. Xu’s team concluded that “the most important result of our analysis” is that the anatomies of the Chinese specimen and Archaeopteryx were remarkably similar, meaning that both belonged to the lineage of the meat-eating deinonychosaurs, not the plant-eating early birds. In short, Archaeopteryx presumably was not an ancestral bird. The recent discovery of a tenth Archaeopteryx specimen “greatly improved our knowledge” of its similarities to the dinosaur group and its differences from birds, the paleontologists said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/02/science/02fossil.html?_r=0

Example #2 Australopithecus afarensis - While still referenced in school due to out right propaganda, it is commonly known as "Lucy". All of the bones were found in a 1.5 MILE radius. NOT a link,

http://scienceagainstevolution.org/v4i5f.htm
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2011/09/13/sediba
Both excellent sources of material that have refferences and give a thoroughly fair view on the subject.

Example # 3 Pakicetids, Ambulocetus - While a decent try, the problem lies in the assumptions of correlation for a mammal which did NOT have fins.

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/natural_history_2_15.html

Example #4 Tiktaalik - Sadly PREDATES its supposed ancestors and while there was more material to list, I think this source alone is enough to put enough doubt in the claim they are links.

The fish--tetrapod transition was thus seemingly quite well documented. There was a consensus that the divergence between some elpistostegalians (such as Tiktaalik or Panderichthys) and tetrapods might have occurred during the Givetian, 391--385 Myr ago. Coeval with the earliest fossil tetrapods, trackways dating to the Late Devonian were evidence for their ability to walk or crawl on shores.

Now, however, Niedźwiedzki et al. lob a grenade into that picture. They report the stunning discovery of tetrapod trackways with distinct digit imprints from Zachemie, Poland, that are unambiguously dated to the lowermost Eifelian (397 Myr ago). This site (an old quarry) has yielded a dozen trackways made by several individuals that ranged from about 0.5 to 2.5 metres in total length, and numerous isolated footprints found on fragments of scree. The tracks predate the oldest tetrapod skeletal remains by 18 Myr and, more surprisingly, the earliest elpistostegalian fishes by about 10 Myr.

(Philippe Janvier & Gaël Clément, "Muddy tetrapod origins," Nature Vol. 463:40-41 (January 7, 2010).)
- See more at: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/01/tiktaalik_blown_out_of_the_wat030621.html#sthash.7lUiZvhm.dpuf

And Example #5 from the site: Amphistium - Not a link and FAILS to show how they would have transisted to the next kind.


Friedman's research reveals additional reasons why these fossils may not represent transitional forms. In Nature, Freidman refers to "the sudden appearance of anatomically modern pleuronectiform [flatfish] groups in the Palaeogene period."2 Thus, these newly-discovered forms were found in the same rock layers with the fish they allegedly evolved into! If they were transitional, they should be in rock layers above regular fish but below flatfish.
Friedman, M. 2008. The evolutionary origin of flatfish asymmetry. Nature. 454: 209-212.
Worse, In an encore performance of his 2008 study, Oxford paleontologist Matthew Friedman has now used an acid-transfer technique to dissolve some of the matrix from around a fossilized flatfish analyzed previously. His re-examination of the fossil confirms his previous findings. The fish differs from modern flatfish in only minor ways with the exception of the eyes. Heteronectes’s left eye is located near the top of the skull but has not migrated to the opposite side.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2012/07/14/news-to-note-07142012 A well put site for reference to original material. Fairly presented.

The conclusion is those staple "missing links" are in fact either frauds or not even relevant to the Darwinian Evolution, Although as I said, Wikipedia is just not a viable source for info. ANYONE can edit it.

EmeraldMercy Said: Now, there is a great quote taught in the church, is that "A Day to God, is a thousand to man" NOT LITERALLY 1,000! But MANY! Many many many years...


Sadly, the context is as follows: 2 Peter 3:7-9 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

Like isn't literal. As to the Genesis versus AnswersinGenesis gives an excellent point as follows:


What does “day” mean?
The Hebrew word for day in Genesis chapter 1 is the word yom. It is important to understand that almost any word can have two or more meanings, depending on context. We need to understand the context of the usage of this word in Genesis chapter 1.1

Respected Hebrew dictionaries, like the Brown, Driver, Briggs lexicon, give a number of meanings for the word yom depending upon context. One of the passages they give for yom‘s meaning an ordinary day happens to be Genesis chapter 1. The reason is obvious. Every time the word yom is used with a number, or with the phrase “evening and morning’, anywhere in the Old Testament, it always means an ordinary day. In Genesis chapter 1, for each of the six days of creation, the Hebrew word yom is used with a number and the phrase, “evening and morning’. There is no doubt that the writer is being emphatic that these are ordinary days.

What if the days were millions of years?
The whole of the creation restored . . . to what?

The Bible says there will be a future restoration (Acts 3:21), with no death or suffering. How could all things be restored in the future to no more death and suffering unless the beginning was also free of death and suffering? The whole message of the gospel falls apart if you allow millions of years (with death and suffering) for the world’s creation.

The idea of millions of years came from the belief that the fossil record was built up over a long time. As soon as people allow for millions of years, they allow for the fossil record to be millions of years old. This creates an insurmountable problem regarding the gospel. The fossil record consists of the death of billions of creatures. In fact, it is a record of death, disease, suffering, cruelty, and brutality. It is a very ugly record.

The Bible is adamant though, that death, disease, and suffering came into the world as a result of sin. God instituted death and bloodshed because of sin so man could be redeemed. As soon as Christians allow for death, suffering, and disease before sin, then the whole foundations of the message of the Cross and the Atonement have been destroyed. The doctrine of original sin, then, is totally undermined.

If there were death, disease, and suffering before Adam rebelled—then what did sin do to the world? What does Paul mean in Romans 8 when he says the whole of creation groans in pain because of the Curse? How can all things be restored in the future to no more death and suffering, unless the beginning was also free of death and suffering? The whole message of the gospel falls apart if one allows millions of years for the creation of the world.

QUOTED FROM http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v18/n1/six-days



But, before you even think about that (someone's right), think that since this interpretation of the bible can easily be off, that both of us can be wrong, or right...


Here's the climax off my essay: If that is true, then we are doomed either from the meaningless existence of the Atheist or doomed from not actually knowing what God really thinks of us. If the Bible has errors, then how could I trust in anything it says? As Paul excellently says in 1 Corinthians 15:13-15:
But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise...


To rely on our ignorance of things as a satisfactory answer...how is that comforting in the least? To be left with a fear of death, regrets, and our conscience bearing down against us is not comforting but terrifying to the fullest.

But thanks be to God that we are not left helpless in this area, if indeed you will accept God's Word as being His word to us.
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While I respect the Judeo-Christian ethic, as well as the eastern philosophies and of course the teachings of Mohammed, I find that organized religion has corrupted those beliefs to justify countless atrocities throughout history. Were I to attend church, I'd be a hypocrite.
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I am not religious I don't care for god and the devil and heaven and hell or angels and demons. In fact I hate the church they have tried to scare me into praying or to go to thier church or believe in thier religion by trying to scare me into believing that harm will come to me if I don't or that I will die if I no pray now out loud. These people need to pay for what they did and what they said and what they tried to make me believe and I need to see them suffer, I need to see them die, I need to see their children suffer, I need to know that they will always be in misery. there will be no forgiveness coming from me
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Definitely Christian by personal beliefs myself, but I can't say I like everything about organized religion. Being religious just for the sake of being religious or out of fear doesn't really accomplish anything but to stunt growth in my personal experience.

However, saying that Atheism allows for people to question things whereas holding religious beliefs does not is just insubstantial rhetoric. Atheism stifles questioning things just as much as the next religion; it just depends on the question.
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I am religious, and I believe strongly in my religion.

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I used to be a christian. I am now an athiest.
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im not religious, I used to be until I thought a lot about it and told myself that maybe i can do things without praying, everything I choose to do is up to me, not someone I believe in
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TheOtakuYouFools wrote:


mattyc4065 wrote:

Definitely Christian by personal beliefs myself, but I can't say I like everything about organized religion. Being religious just for the sake of being religious or out of fear doesn't really accomplish anything but to stunt growth in my personal experience.

However, saying that Atheism allows for people to question things whereas holding religious beliefs does not is just insubstantial rhetoric. Atheism stifles questioning things just as much as the next religion; it just depends on the question.


Wow aren't you a stupid rat demon. I can't believe how IGNORANT people these days are. OBviouslyt the birdshit religion is the best. You just need to confess to POOPING YOUR PANTS before i throw you in the birdcage with Birdman. I haven't taken a bath in 99 days, lord of the pooopooopppoppp POOPDEMONS.


No ma'am, just a humble opinion passing through.

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