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Exactly!! Take care!
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Im religious, because science hasn't answered my question. what created the first atom that supposedly created the entire universe...answer me that and then ill look into it. science makes no sense to me because...what created the first atom, or amino acid or molecule....they just appeared randomly huh?
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I think philosophy and other esoteric belief systems (as well as other ideologies) attempt to explain this simply because science is a means of observation. Most accomplished scientists will genuinely and honestly answer your questions with, "I don't know, but I'd love to find out.". The only problem is when we're dealing with the creation of the universe we're very much unaware if there is an influencing factor that exist outside of our objective reality and many people come to the conclusion of God. And honestly, at this stage of our knowledge it's as good as any conclusion. Saying, "I don't know", "god", "It has always existed"... each answer is met with philosophical conflict in that we're left with an infinite regression of questions. Why does a god exist? How long has god existed for? And really when you replace the word god with anything, "Why does a universe exist?", "How long has the universe existed for?". We're all left with the same questions, which is why I don't particularly feel it's appropriate to judge religious beliefs, because they are simply attempting to explain the most basic philosophical questions regarding our existence.

Science in its current form is merely a tool to observe our objective reality. Meaning anything outside of our objective reality or beyond the scope of our observation still remains a mystery. I'm not quite sure all atheist make the claim that "nothingness" or "purposeless" are the answers to these questions. A lot of atheists are spiritual and a lot of atheists are not spiritual. I think some atheists just have issue with a very subjective and vague term like god. I personally don't, but that's just one person's opinion. I genuinely don't see the difference between the answers, "god", "I don't know", "nothingness". There is no objective data to support any of the 3 answers. So, ultimately I think it's important we come to our own conclusions and try to follow a belief system that feels natural to us. And if that belief system is a religion, I can respect that.

For me, personally, I came to the conclusion that I don't know. And I'm not quite sure I will ever know. I find that in itself to be quite mysterious and exciting. I find the unknown to be hopeful. I find it fascinating.

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cool answer man. I can understand you views. I understand why some are not religious to seeing as religion has been so misused throughout history, it makes one wonder if it is just a tool to gain control of others. but I think ill know the answers once I pass, if theres heaven or hell I will know theres god and a devil, if im reborn well I would be confused. I don't know what else could possibly happen upon death. but I believe I will either meet god or the devil, I wonder who.
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Posted 8/23/13

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All the religious people should stop and question why they believe what they believe. Its funny that people are saying theyre religious because they dont want to go to hell, what makes you think hell is real? its just ridiculous its like saying i dont want to go to sleep because freddy kreuger might get me. Honestly if you are christian or whatever and you can sit through a sermon about talking snakes and you take that crap literally you should be locked up in a mental hospital. If you dont believe the crazy crap but youre still religious why do you still believe in hell?


the book quran that have been revealed to us , i think there is too in bible saying about it, this are the proof been revealed from ancient time till now and still people dont believe it , just like the disbeliever always says


Show me proof and i'll become a believer.
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Very good. Keep your mind open. I'm a scientist and engineer, and I can tell you straight up that fundamental Atheism is as damaging to our social and scientific freedoms as fundamental Christians or Muslims etc. When you stop listening and deny others their foibles, then you as oppressive as they are. Some of the more scientifically ignorant people I have met were Atheists. Science is a logic tool which helps model and refine our perception of the Universe. It is not something to use to argue whether there is a God or not. Our total scientific knowledge base is nowhere near being able to determine this one way or another. We'd have to have time travel, dimensional travel, faster than light travel, and immortality to even start using science to determine whether there is a God or not. Atheism is just another belief and philosophical tool used by humans, just like religion and spirituality. It's all grist for the mill of the human mind. Savor it all! And keep your eyes open.
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I'm religious, because my parents are.
I want to believe in religion, but I just can't.....
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I am religious, because i choose to love.
I would not call myself a christian, or Jewish, or Muslim, or Buddhist, or any other sect of religion. I have but one motive and that is to Love! Love is at the core of most religious ideologies, yet where is it today? With so many religious people spread throughout the world, where is the love? Humanity has stomped it out, put it aside and instead replaced it with themselves. It is sad to think that i would preferably choose not to call myself a christian; not due to the fact i may experience persecution, but due to the fact that millions of people claim themselves as "Christians" and yet show no love. I do not want to be roped in with people such as the Westboro "baptist" who preach hate. Now do not get me wrong here, i am not without fault and by no means am i saying that i am better than anyone here or elsewhere in the world. All i am saying is there needs to not be so much broad judgment placed upon entire religions, but better yet more speculation to the individual and the life that they live. honestly if i did not believe in something more than what we have here on earth, i would undoubtedly be an atheist. This world makes me sick and people use religion as a weapon (que book of Eli plot) Religion was never designed to be a profitable organization and if it was then it should be considered a business more so than a religion. It disturbs me (and no offense to any Roman Catholics in here) that the Catholic church is the largest landowner in america, and that they can tell people that all they have to do is pay the church so their loved ones go to heaven?
The bottom line is this, we all have many things to learn from religion. Some are good things, some are quite bad, but they all can teach us something. I am not saying you need to adopt a certain religion based off of one principal you like, but better yet dig deep to their roots and what they truly stand for and wish to accomplish. I believe that in the end the biggest similarity you will find between them is....LOVE
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I am not religious and I personally don't care for it. It was one more way to exert control and hold power over people. Am I saying that I don't think religion dose any good, no. Some people genuinely believe that it dose them good and helps them lead better more productive lives Good for them, it's just my cup of tea. Our nations rule of law was influenced by Judeo-Christian beliefs and it's done right by most of us for over two centuries. Is it perfect no, but what and who is.

As for the whole hell thing, if it exists then I'm probably going there. If there comes a time for judgment I will more than likely be found wanting. I have lived my life to the not always best of my ability but I have lived it none the less. If that fails to pass muster then piss on them. I'll probably know more people in hell anyways.
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Posted 8/23/13

bunnypurple wrote:


zBladerz wrote:


bunnypurple wrote:

All the religious people should stop and question why they believe what they believe. Its funny that people are saying theyre religious because they dont want to go to hell, what makes you think hell is real? its just ridiculous its like saying i dont want to go to sleep because freddy kreuger might get me. Honestly if you are christian or whatever and you can sit through a sermon about talking snakes and you take that crap literally you should be locked up in a mental hospital. If you dont believe the crazy crap but youre still religious why do you still believe in hell?


the book quran that have been revealed to us , i think there is too in bible saying about it, this are the proof been revealed from ancient time till now and still people dont believe it , just like the disbeliever always says


Show me proof and i'll become a believer.


proof about god exist? ans : read the quran , it tells everything about how and why. tell me what kind of proof more u want to know..?
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proof about god exist? ans : read the quran , it tells everything about how and why. tell me what kind of proof more u want to know..?

I was kidding i already know that you can't give me proof that your religion is real. There's no point in trying to understand religious people, believe what you want to believe.
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proof about god exist? ans : read the quran , it tells everything about how and why. tell me what kind of proof more u want to know..?

I was kidding i already know that you can't give me proof that your religion is real. There's no point in trying to understand religious people, believe what you want to believe.

then tell me which another religion is more real then islam?i will join that religion if it is . islam teach us to believe in one god and prohet is the messenger and to us jesus is a messenger ,



Pororo0623 wrote:

I'm religious, because my parents are.
I want to believe in religion, but I just can't.....


that why people keep praying for being close to god.

if everyone can be close to god easily then why would there many bad people or a place call hell with levels
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You fail to comprehend what atheism is. Atheism has no dogma, and it is not a religion. It is by definition, the lack of belief in any particular religious dogma. The reason for this lack of belief stems from a lack of evidence. If there were sufficient evidence for religion being factual, then faith and belief in it would be moot; it would simply be factual, and it would be perverse to not accept facts in the face of overwhelming evidence. This is evidence that reality has yet to provide, that can be both tested and proven.

That's one of the greatest differences between religious people, and those of us in the Nones (i.e. those without any religious belief.) We will revise our opinions based upon new evidence, whereas it's much more difficult for the religious to do so, without some mental gymnastics, or perhaps cognitive dissonance involved.

It bears mentioning that in a recent poll, 40% of Americans would reject the acknowledgement of a scientific fact, if that fact contradicted their religious beliefs. Correlation does not imply causation; however, if religious people were more open to revising their opinions in the face of evidence, then logically, there would be a negative correlation in the results. And then people wonder why Americans are falling so far behind in the sciences, and not just the knowledge of, but the comprehension of history.

It's all too easy to attribute this to religious conservatives on the Texas school boards, and their love for revisionist history. One such example? The removal of any mention of "slavery" as one of the causes for the U.S. Civil War...while replacing all those mentions of "slavery" with "triangular trade". Without mention of one of the most important aspects of that trade route. They also claimed "States' Rights" as the major cause for the war...while simultaneously neglecting the fact that those in abolitionist states wanted to have the right to prevent people from the south chasing after freed or escaped slaves. By watering down the facts in this manner, the significance of them becomes lost. It's an ugly truth, but it is part of the nation's history, and must not be forgotten. (Never mind the fact that the bible was used to justify said slavery, and some of the founding fathers were slave owners, too. Revisionist religious people don't tend to like it much when that gets brought up.)

Trying to equivocate atheism to religion, in some misguided effort to devalue it, only devalues religion. How strong must your religion be, if the views of atheism are equal in value to it?

If atheism is to be classified as a religion, then:

- Those of us in secular organizations that lay claim to no religious belief should enjoy the same tax-free status that religious organizations enjoy. But Christians don't actually want to legitimize us in that manner, and have fought tooth and nail against it.

- We should also be allowed to have secular chaplains in the military, so that our service members can consult with a chaplain who does not follow a particular religion, and is better equipped to relate to their problems, without any dogmatic bias. If you think having a secular chaplain is an oxymoron, the previous sentence explains the need for such individuals. The number of military personnel who claim no religious belief is growing. But as expected, the effort to make this happen was doggedly opposed by religious Republicans this year.

- For every courthouse and government building that Christians insist on displaying the Ten Commandments, or other religious imagery, which violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution, secular and atheist organizations should have equal access to place monuments or displays as well. To allow this is to explicitly prevent a government endorsement of any particular religious viewpoint, but Christians have fought against these efforts as well, or they simply gave up and removed the religious imagery, rather than give secular organizations an equal voice.

I'd suggest the same sort of effort and voice be given to other religions as well, and not just the Abrahamic ones. If you represent one religion, then others (but not necessarily ALL) must be represented, too. (But of course, any mention of Islam gets cries of "Sharia Law!" from the conservative Christians.) The only other fair and Constitutional way to handle it would be to fully respect the Establishment Clause, and display no religious symbolism in government funded institutions. No special treatment for just the Christians, or for any religious view in favor of all others - as it should be.

Religious people have fought tooth and nail in both the state and federal courts, as well as in Congress, to prevent each of these things from happening. And in each case, Christians have decried these efforts by secular organizations as religious oppression against Christians. Yeah, that 75% Christian majority is SO oppressed! Let me find the tiniest violin ever made, and play it for you. You can try to call atheism a "religion" all you like, but it doesn't make it true; and you're only strengthening our position, while devaluing and insulting your own. Good luck with that.
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This is an age old question that i am sure will promptly be answered (and dismissed) but if there is no religion, where do morals come from? or are there no morals in the world we live in?
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