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I'm a nontheist. And yes, that is a thing.

I see the relevance of religion in society along with the good and mostly bad that it has caused in the world.

My honest opinion is that I think some people just need religion. On some days I mean that in a condescending way and on others I don't. Depending on my mood.
I'm not one of them though. I 100% believe that god does not exist. At all. Whatsoever. But as long those religious folk don't come knocking at my door with a bible and some holy water, I'll (more or less) keep my views to myself and not try to debunk others beliefs. I'm not going to go all r/Atheism on them.

I don't give a shit what someone believes. Believe in flying monkeys for all I care. Regardless of how intelligent that makes them, I don't care about that either. & unless they are doing someone some kind of harm then I don't think others should to.

Then again, I'm passive aggressive.
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anti-lambsacrifice wrote:

Because I can't contemplate the thought of nature being so strongly in harmony by chance. I think it's much more than a coincidence.


Harmony in what way? The constant extinctions, pollution, rape, disease, and violence doesn't come across as harmonious to me.


I don't think that's "nature." However, what I'm referring to is the placement of animals, how food produces where we are, how there is water to drink, etc., etc. - usually if not only until something disturbs that.
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I have not been on the forum for a while...

I have just moved and set up internet again, so please excuse me for being so late...

For everyone who posted on this thread, I am glad that you have a strong enough will or courage to tell the world your belief. I also wish to participate in this once again, and state what my current (though not solid) beliefs are in this world...



1. I know that I exist, but do not know who else exists...

-Even though I do not know if others may or may not exist, I also know they could possibly exist.

-Since "others" can exist in this world alongside me, in a physical manner, I must treat them as if they were me.

-This is where "everyone is equal" fits in. I believe that every person's sentience is equal to one anothers, BUT their physical minds and bodies may be deprived of what another has.



2. I believe, the best term for what I believe in would be "Lost"

-Not lost as in I don't know where I am, or where to go, but rather like a lost person, I am in the same grounds.

-To explain, I was raised Roman Catholic, with very many restrictions in my life. I became who I am because of that background, although filled with many obstacles, and trials.

-Being "Lost" is simply meaning you look for religions to study, and study them, and meditate on everything you can about them. You do the same with philosophies, ideologies, and lifestyles/ cultures. After doing this continually, you learn a few secrets of our world...



3. I believe that every choice someone makes, is right, no matter what it was. Even murder, rape, abduction, torture, lies, molestation, and abuse is "right", but only of the one committing such actions, since the actions themselves ARE evil.

Before you leave and tell me I am delirious, listen to how I explain this...

Everyone was born with their bodies, and along with it, their minds... These develop over time to become better. DNA is the current key to our understanding of this process, since genes affect who we become physically. Mentally, we develop based on how our physical minds were developed, as well as our environment around us. Therefore, it is not "us" that is wrong, or evil, but rather, it is our incapabilities, and imperfections as humans that cause us to do what we do, and what makes us imperfect is the situations in our life that we went through, or the circumstances of our existence.

-Consider this,Whoever you are, you were born physically to further develop mentally, but you were born in certain conditions, both fiscally and physically and mentally... after being born, you will have many situations in your life that cause you to be who you are today. You are pressured by others who surround you, and they teach you about the world. This is normally your parents, and they raise you in their own image to become what they could not, or what they are, or for your own happiness in life, or they abuse you, mentally, physically... either of these situations or several of them lead you to be who you are today. If your parents were religious, and they wanted their children to be religious, then you will become religious, unless outer circumstances and situations in your life make you change your mind later on. For most of us, our parents, or other relatives/ care givers defined our world, as well as our perspective of it.

When we make a choice, we do so simply to continue our lives... even if we choose to ignore that we have a choice, or decide to not have a choice, or any other similar circumstance. Our sentience is limited to the physical mind each of us possesses. If it be great, then that is luck, and if it is not up to par, that to is simply luck.

After realizing what I have realized, I decided that I would bring back the "empty" communication of the Sophists, which is simply to ask the world... why? Those that answer, can learn more about the world, and teach me more as well. I have been doing this already in the forum. Those who do not answer, will not be thought of as ignorant or dull minded, but rather, restricted through their life either mentally, or circumstantially, or even if they do not possess the skill set or the courage to make a good answer. No one should force you to speak, but you should at least try so that you can argue.

ARGUING IS A GOOD THING!!!

If we did not argue, then the world would be even more chaotic than it is today. Arguing should not be confused with quarreling... or fighting. Arguing is a way to discuss an agreement between beliefs, perspective, philosophy, science, math, language, art... and so on...

Here, in the modern world, it is common to think of an argument as a fight, which it is not. Heated words are not arguing however, since that is what a quarrel is. A fight is similar, but it is more of a threatening and mentally damaging type of quarrel.

Without arguing to help us communicate and understand the world and convince others and ourselves of what we believe in or what we know, then we would always bicker and fight and quarrel.

Worse yet, is to "Agree to disagree"... that is by far the WORST thing to do. It is a war, that is what agreeing to disagree is. Silence follows saying such a phrase, and mentally, and many times physically... you start a war. Even on personal grounds, I know that "Agreeing to disagree" causes the worst damage in a relationship with anyone, and the worst conflicts in history. To disagree to disagree is a quarrel, abuse, or peer pressure/ other coercion methods. To agree to agree is simply, coincidence of both individuals or parties involved having circumstances and situations line up with one another. This is just a way to form a cliche, or a group, or a nation, or a religion, or a... so on and so forth...

Now, the BEST method is usually to disagree to agree... which means that an agreement is in place, but both parties must use logic, passions and emotions and character to decide the best agreement.

If you wish to know more, quote me... or privately message me like the many others who already have...



4. I consider myself neutral. This goes for politics, and religion/ ideology/ philosophy. I neither give my life for society, nor do I take everything I can and damage society.

I like to solve conflicts that already exist, and also create new smaller conflicts on major conflicts to further in detail solve world problems, even in a small scale, such as this messaging board.

Hate me, despise me for what I believe in, if that is what you believe is right for such a horrible, worthless, and ignorant person that I am. I have no claim to fame, and nothing to sum up to other than what society demands of me. If you like me, then I wish you would not... never trust in what others have taught you, but rather, use what they taught you to further yourself. Make yourself a vast ocean out of the clouds that others give you. Collect them all, do not fly next to one claiming it as your own. Ask other why, and learn more about what they know, and obtain tools to help you in all of your life quests.

I cannot become an answer, but rather, a librarian and detective. I am no oracle of knowledge, nor wisdom. I simply have learned through what I have asked.

For anyone who finds fault in what I say, or what I believe in... let me know... if you are right, I will allow you to persuade me through wisdom to change my ideals, and beliefs.

As more definitions or explanations or examples of ANYTHING, let me know in a message. I can now answer every question in detail.

I thank many people who I have talked to thus far, especially Conquistador0, since he developed my beliefs through counter arguments. It may seem like we disagreed, but that is because we agreed to the work and patience required to agree to disagree. We still must find more information before we confront one another again...

If you wish to massage me, do so. I will judge you, but I will not think great, nor little of you. I with to know your genre as a person, rather than a strength, so think of is as an evaluation of type. I can become both your best friend, and worst nemesis... and you will like me as your enemy, but dislike me as your friend.



Now, I will hopefully talk to each of you,,,

Take care...

Thinking of you...



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shadorai wrote:


lippedlove wrote:

i'm not religious but i understand the value it has for others


same here. i don't hate religion, and i know it's important to others, but i just don't like it. i don't tell people off because they like it, and i'm okay with people liking religion, but it's just not for me.


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I know that I exist, but do not know who else exists...


How can you be sure that you exist?
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I know that I exist, but do not know who else exists...


How can you be sure that you exist?


"I can think, therefore, I exist..." You probably heard that many times... I might not exist in the next moment, I may just be a recollection of vivid presentations throughout life for a mere second, and afterwards be gone...

It is the one, and only thing anyone can ever know completely without fault.

I guess few read through the post this time around, since only a few replied in a private message... but I am a very open person to talk with... and I don't bite. I cannot bite even if I wanted to, since... there is the barrier of miles in between... but even if you were near, I still would not bite, just as reassurance...

For those wanting to know what "Lost" is, also message me. It is very similar to the anti-atheist life style mentioned before, but rather different in reasoning, and philosophy.

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Hmmm religion a word man-made. I find that one can have a relationship with god an not be religious. I do believe in god or another higher being but this is for a number of reasons. One when i was young i was really i'll, in an out of hospital, the surgeons said i had barley a chance of surviving an if i did they would have to take my legs now. My Grandparents urged them to wait one more night. So they went away both ministers in a church and got a prayer team together to pray. The next day they came in the surgeons said it was amazing, i had taken a turn for the best. The antibiotics started working, everything was fine they would not have to take my legs. They said we cannot admit it but something must have given me a push an it was a miracle. So this is one reason but also a reason why i value my legs an exercise an run alot as well =p

So then years past went on my own way an i was riding my bike through a park, then i stopped to sit an relax as i was surrounded by 30 guys . At this time i was only 14, they beaten me up all of them, i was beaten to a really bad state. That night ended up in the hospital for 5 hours of testing an procedures. Then straight to the police station. After this ordeal i went through anger management, depression, anxiety you name it i was pretty much going through it.

At the age of 17 i had, had enough of being taken for granted an took to a group of boys across from my house with a samurai, it is extremely lucky i had my family an friends around to stop anything from happening but when i came to i was being held down by my family and friends the samurai beside me guys running off in every direction, some had locked themselves in a car. After that i was shifted to my Grandparents to live, where i got into a church, then a youth group.
This was able to help me start to rebuild myself, i became a junior youth leader in the church within a year because ni was able to relate to youth that went through the same issues i had. It made me a better person.
I started to feel myself again, confident, bubbly an energetic.
After this i started to look beyond what i could see, soul searching so yeah an to this day i still have a little anxiety problems. But overall i have become myself again.
So i believe in spirit an soul an maybe another being such as god.

Thanks to who ever took the time to read this as well, means alot for me to be able to share my story.
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Yes, I am religious, or rather I consider myself to be a Christian, though a very open minded one. Why? Because it feels right, and to me at least, it makes sense. As much sense as the untold number of 'billion to one circumstances the led to life existing on this planet, and it evolving into not just us, but all living organisms. Intelligent design makes as much sense, and if that is the case, than it makes sense to look into that, and of all the religious I have looked into, only Christianity seemed have the right basic idea of love, forgiveness, and helping others.
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Because He (Jesus) spoke the truth.
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ShadowRaven2012 wrote:

Yes, I am religious, or rather I consider myself to be a Christian, though a very open minded one. Why? Because it feels right, and to me at least, it makes sense. As much sense as the untold number of 'billion to one circumstances the led to life existing on this planet, and it evolving into not just us, but all living organisms. Intelligent design makes as much sense, and if that is the case, than it makes sense to look into that, and of all the religious I have looked into, only Christianity seemed have the right basic idea of love, forgiveness, and helping others.


Yes, I remember being at this state of mind throughout my young teenage years...

By any chance, have you been confirmed in the church yet?

After taking the classes that are necessary, and also being in public school with an open mind, you may find yourself where I was... self conflicted, and confused... eventually, you will say you are a theist, or agnostic, then maybe atheist. If you continue to be open minded and never 100% believe in any circumstance, you will eventually become a figure of what you were, and like me, you will learn what pain it is to be lost, of no color nor flag... yet, you will wish to remain lost, since it is the right thing to do, but you may have yet to realize this.

No one else reaching this state will comfort you or support you, nor will they lecture you or do you any harm. It is a way of life to tolerate and live peaceably in this world... but at stake is your outwardly liberty and personal choice... but you still maintain the liberty and free will to make such a choice...

Depending on how far you go on this tangent, you will eventually pass where I am at, and hopefully find the answer to peace that so many look for.

Sometimes, you look out the window, and think of how everything in the world, even past our little Earth is connected, and all related. We are of the same plane of existence, yet, there is no beginning... but, there is a cycle, or at least as I see it...

Only testing our physical world will ever lead to the evidence we need to learn how our world truly works...

Maybe, you will be one to unlock one of the secrets to our world... hmmmm?

Thinking of you,



-Emerald Mercy




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justapersonwatchinganime wrote:


anti-lambsacrifice wrote:

Because I can't contemplate the thought of nature being so strongly in harmony by chance. I think it's much more than a coincidence.


Harmony in what way? The constant extinctions, pollution, rape, disease, and violence doesn't come across as harmonious to me.


I don't think that's "nature." However, what I'm referring to is the placement of animals, how food produces where we are, how there is water to drink, etc., etc. - usually if not only until something disturbs that.


Nature can be defined as the loss of kinetic energy, and a build up of low and stable potential energies. This is the link to the harmony you described so very well.

Now, rape, extinction, disease, violence, and pollution, and even many other evils are not caused by any sentient being, but rather of the circumstances and situational events in the world, which may influence humans, to do such evil actions, but only with a righteous being of doing so.

The world has several harmonies, but they sometimes hit a thick and heavy discord throughout the melody, with violent stops and starts, and quick beats with a slow tempo. The world contrasts from one half to the other, so yes it is harmonious, but that is half the tale...

Hopefully, this helps in whatever way it can...

Thinking of you...



-Emerald Mercy





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Because He (Jesus) spoke the truth.


And how do you know he spoke the truth? Why do you believe this?

Do not think of my question as something that I am doing against you, but rather, I wish for you to rethink your statement.

During your life, were you raised to know that Jesus spoke the truth? Did your community influence you by telling you "Jesus spoke the truth"? Or, did years of pain, suffering, silence, and cold blooded hate brew an emotion of hope for you to cling to? Such hope brought about a search for yourself, and the answers to all of your questions, and you eventually found the church to tell you these things... If any of these, or even other circumstances happened at all, wouldn't that be just a situation that influenced you in your life?

At this point, ask yourself, why do I believe, and do not answer your question with "God is there, so I believe", but rather, what in my life led to me believing in what I do? Do not believe in something without any evidence other than other people's words... likewise, do not believe in my way of life, until, and unless you are at that point in life.

Look for your answers with definitive proof... not hollow words of the other people in this world... use physical evidence to support physical beliefs, and philosophical logic for philosophical ideals...

After doing so, follow that path, but do not hold on to it, keep it as vague and as interchangeable and flexible as you can, so that if you find yourself wrong, you can again change for what you deem better. This advice is for you, to better yourself... instead of relying on others to define your world... seize the world for yourself! and look upon it with your own eyes!

Thinking of you,



-Emerald Mercy



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Hmmm religion a word man-made. I find that one can have a relationship with god an not be religious. I do believe in god or another higher being but this is for a number of reasons. One when i was young i was really i'll, in an out of hospital, the surgeons said i had barley a chance of surviving an if i did they would have to take my legs now. My Grandparents urged them to wait one more night. So they went away both ministers in a church and got a prayer team together to pray. The next day they came in the surgeons said it was amazing, i had taken a turn for the best. The antibiotics started working, everything was fine they would not have to take my legs. They said we cannot admit it but something must have given me a push an it was a miracle. So this is one reason but also a reason why i value my legs an exercise an run alot as well =p

So then years past went on my own way an i was riding my bike through a park, then i stopped to sit an relax as i was surrounded by 30 guys . At this time i was only 14, they beaten me up all of them, i was beaten to a really bad state. That night ended up in the hospital for 5 hours of testing an procedures. Then straight to the police station. After this ordeal i went through anger management, depression, anxiety you name it i was pretty much going through it.

At the age of 17 i had, had enough of being taken for granted an took to a group of boys across from my house with a samurai, it is extremely lucky i had my family an friends around to stop anything from happening but when i came to i was being held down by my family and friends the samurai beside me guys running off in every direction, some had locked themselves in a car. After that i was shifted to my Grandparents to live, where i got into a church, then a youth group.
This was able to help me start to rebuild myself, i became a junior youth leader in the church within a year because ni was able to relate to youth that went through the same issues i had. It made me a better person.
I started to feel myself again, confident, bubbly an energetic.
After this i started to look beyond what i could see, soul searching so yeah an to this day i still have a little anxiety problems. But overall i have become myself again.
So i believe in spirit an soul an maybe another being such as god.

Thanks to who ever took the time to read this as well, means alot for me to be able to share my story.


Yes, a story that best shows a reason to believe in a superior being...

You have every reason to thank whoever helped you, and you are indebted to them perhaps...

You should find out who this person is, and whether or not it was someone helping you, or possibly a terrible hypothesis on the surgeon's perspective and diagnosis. Find an answer for yourself, without holding ground, but rather fluidly accepting how this world works. Allow the world to give you answers, and test the world of all possible outcomes and find further truth!

Now... make a change in your world, and find a reason for all that you have become...

Many others follow along your footsteps, wondering whether they should be alive, or dead... having terrible back stories, and harsh, cruel, and punishing lives.

Like you, they will find an answer, everyone does, but only a few will ever stumble upon the actual truth, and even if they do, they often turn tail and run. No one wants the truth if it hurts, if it requires something more than knowing to seize.

In any case, I wish you the best of luck in your life's journey...



Thinking of you...



-Emerald Mercy



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justapersonwatchinganime wrote:


anti-lambsacrifice wrote:

Because I can't contemplate the thought of nature being so strongly in harmony by chance. I think it's much more than a coincidence.


Harmony in what way? The constant extinctions, pollution, rape, disease, and violence doesn't come across as harmonious to me.


I don't think that's "nature." However, what I'm referring to is the placement of animals, how food produces where we are, how there is water to drink, etc., etc. - usually if not only until something disturbs that.


Nature can be defined as the loss of kinetic energy, and a build up of low and stable potential energies. This is the link to the harmony you described so very well.

Now, rape, extinction, disease, violence, and pollution, and even many other evils are not caused by any sentient being, but rather of the circumstances and situational events in the world, which may influence humans, to do such evil actions, but only with a righteous being of doing so.

The world has several harmonies, but they sometimes hit a thick and heavy discord throughout the melody, with violent stops and starts, and quick beats with a slow tempo. The world contrasts from one half to the other, so yes it is harmonious, but that is half the tale...

Hopefully, this helps in whatever way it can...

Thinking of you...



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Does Deism count as a religion? I suppose it does.
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I am religious. You might argue that it is because I was raised that way, but that is not quite correct, I was raised religious, but religion really fell to the wayside in my life for a while. I believe in a God, actually, because of science and scientific discovery about the evolutionary origin of man. The more we come to understand, the more we realize the vast complexity of this one tiny planet in a vast, unending universe of worlds and galaxies and how incomprehensibly small humanity really is compared to that. The more we come to understand both how tiny we are in the overall system of the universe and how complex we are and apply that throughout the universe, it just screams intelligent design to me.
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Does Deism count as a religion? I suppose it does.


Actually no...
Unlike Religion, Deism doesn't a set of beliefs/ teaching... and thus not classified as a Religion.

It is merely a believe that a greater being exist out there...
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not religious at all. i used to believe in god, but nowadays not really.
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