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I was born into a pretty relaxed Christian family and I personally believe in God,Heaven and Hell, but I'm just fine with other people thinking otherwise,it really doesn't bug me to much although I wouldn't be one of those people that say "You need to get saved right now or you are going to hell" because what is the point in accepting God into your heart if you don't mean it? but if someone asked me "how do I get saved" or "can you help me accept Jesus into my heart" i would be very happy to help. (long post 0.0)


You may care to read any of my previous posts...

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Scientifically, I am Agnostic. Though I state I am an Atheist and live my life as an Atheist.
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Then if that is the case, isn't it best to not assume anything, and just remember all of the knowledge you gained in your pursuit?


Yes, but if I can help just one person through my experiences, then it shan't be in vain.
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No.

But I respect those that do believe, I won't tell anyone else what to believe and if they do the same then we will get on just fine.

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I'm more of a spiritual person than religious. I used to go to church as a younger kid...Mostly I was forced. I used to think I was into it...wasn't until after a tragic event in my life where I became really depressed that I realized I had more hope and faith in something outside of church. Going back to any church now for weddings etc makes me extremely uncomfortable and makes me realize how cult-ish it all is. No offense to anyone who goes to church regularly on here... but I have more of a relationship and hope with a "higher power" or afterlife now than I ever did when I went to church or had a set religion.
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I'm a not religious person at all... In fact, I believe in God, because I know, he/or it? exist. I know, because I just know. World and universe are too perfecly built. So in my opinion someone had to create them. And I sometimes have feeling that somebody controls my life and various things around other people. But I don't believe in things written in Bible, Koran etc. They were created by people and people interpreted world around them in some specific way - they exagerrated a lot of things and this way some kind of mithology - in my opinion, of course - was created. For example, Jesus. Jesus is the most important person in Christian religion and he was also important prophet among Muslim people. So, he was real (he appears in two important ancient books) and his actions were important for both of religions. But, I personally think, apostles exagerrated Jesus and he becomes God, although he was ordinary man. Even Bible proves that. Jesus never mentioned he is God. He told, he was a God's son, but he also mentioned, that everyone is son/daughter of God. But I can be wrong. I was reading Bible long time ago, so if it was different, put me straight on it.

Generally, I'm agnostic, but I believe in some Great Power which controls us. Observing world around me, I sometimes think, that God manipulates people as they were his toys.
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I'm a not religious person at all... In fact, I believe in God, because I know, he/or it? exist. I know, because I just know. World and universe are too perfecly built. So in my opinion someone had to create them. And I sometimes have feeling that somebody controls my life and various things around other people. But I don't believe in things written in Bible, Koran etc. They were created by people and people interpreted world around them in some specific way - they exagerrated a lot of things and this way some kind of mithology - in my opinion, of course - was created. For example, Jesus. Jesus is the most important person in Christian religion and he was also important prophet among Muslim people. So, he was real (he appears in two important ancient books) and his actions were important for both of religions. But, I personally think, apostles exagerrated Jesus and he becomes God, although he was ordinary man. Even Bible proves that. Jesus never mentioned he is God. He told, he was a God's son, but he also mentioned, that everyone is son/daughter of God. But I can be wrong. I was reading Bible long time ago, so if it was different, put me straight on it.

Generally, I'm agnostic, but I believe in some Great Power which controls us. Observing world around me, I sometimes think, that God manipulates people as they were his toys.


Have you read about Deism? From what you've stated, it fits the bill for your belief system.
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I don't really think about it...
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RG914 wrote:

I'm more of a spiritual person than religious. I used to go to church as a younger kid...





po-rzeczka wrote:

I'm a not religious person at all... In fact, I believe in God, because I know, he/or it? exist. I know, because I just know. World and universe are too perfecly built. ..



Stop right there... both of you are religious. In fact, you two are the very definitions of religious. You don't have to go to church to be "religious." If you don't believe the christian version of religion and believe in a different religion, you are religious. There is a disturbing new trend where religious people try to classify themselves as not religious. "I'm not religious, I just have a relationship with god... etc, etc" Let's just call a spade a spade.

I'm not religious. I don't have religious beliefs, relationships with any deity, spiritual connections, nothing. If you have any of these things, you are religious. No more confusion!
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No one has posted in a while...

So, by any chance, what are everyone's thoughts on the universe reflecting possibility instead of consistency?

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I'm a catholic. Why? Raised in a catholic household and just choose to believe. It's comforting I suppose.
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I find it somewhat funny when I see people basing their ideas of an afterlife off of a "theory", and even funnier when they claim them to be true with no actual "physical proof". This is exactly the same as "religion" FYI. BTW, "religion" is just a word describing a particular system of faith and worship (which atheism definitely falls into that category). The word "church" generally means a place where Christians go to worship in our world today, but the word "church" in the Bible means the people who believe it to be true. The act of lumping all Christians into a generalized group of "idiots" is not a smart thing to do, and it generally causes you "atheists" to be lumped into a group of "closed minded fools". I do not hold these beliefs personally. I am a Christian. I am also interested in science. I LOVE astronomy, and I have a huge respect for molecular biology. Both of these forms of "science" have evidence that can be taken in many different ways. I can look at an atom and figure that it's so complex that there's absolutely no way it just happened to pull itself together over trillions of years to eventually form the human body, while at the same time, someone else will look at it and say the opposite. We can then call these things "theories". There is NO "proof" that either idea/concept/hypothesis is 100% true based off this alone. The only thing we can be certain of is our own experiences. I was born once, therefore I can say that I was conceived inside a womb at the beginning of my life. My physical body experienced that, even though I don't remember it. This is a similar concept as to why many Christians are so willing to share their faith. They have had an experience of sorts, often times unexplainable, and they want to share how they were affected by it. Many people are hated for their beliefs in anything, and this type of thread has its way of bringing out the haters/closed minded individuals that perpetuate their religion of hate, and their doctrine of intolerance, yet at the same time, it can open doors to free thinking and the positive exchange of intellectual ideas. This is why I love commenting on these things. I sometimes get really moody, and feel attacked to a degree, but sometimes I can pull through that and have really good conversations with people who believe something different than I do. I cannot "prove" to you that God exists, or that Christianity is true, based off of "visible evidence", but I can share with you what the Bible says, and of my own experiences in the faith. At that point, you are free to come up with your own conclusions. The mind is an amazing thing! It's really great that we can each look at a painting and feel completely different about it. This is the same for any intellectual concepts as well. If anyone is interested in furthering this discussion, I'd love to share what God has done in my life that has me 100% convinced that He's real. Hit me up at brianhorn85@gmail.com

Also, Naruto rules!!!!
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If there's a religion without a deity, could you be atheist and religious?
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I'm not religious, although I was raised Roman Catholic by my parents. Furthermore, I was sent to a Roman Catholic all-girls school for most of my life.

I'm not against religion, but I have never found myself having great faith in god. When I was younger, I enjoyed reading the Bible. However, only the old testament. I've always though the new testament was weird and boring. To be honest, if you read the old testament, the teachings are sort of fucked up. I mean, come on. Tricking your older brother in giving up his birth right and stealing your father's blessing from him? Plus the mother is an ass for showing favoritism and tricking her blind husband to favor her son. So the son runs away, he works for a guy and wants his daughter, but ends up having sex with both of his daughters and marrying them. Then he shows favoritism towards one wife and her children. Plus the two bitches are so concerned with who bears him more children that they make their maids sleep with him. Come on, seriously? What happened to infidelity? So the guy goes back home, and he tries to say sorry to his brother by offering him what he has gained throughout the years. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? The older brother wasn't mad at all. He ended up taking care of the parents, but he didn't mind. His younger brother stole his birth right and blessing, but was he mad after years? HE FORGAVE HIM. And the younger brother? He was the "star" of this story. Is this story effed up or what?

Anyway, I'm more agnostic. I think philosophy is pretty important The view of self and such. I mean, how can you approve that there is a god when we can only do so by reason? However, we can only reason what we can justify in our world. The god we talk about is not in our world, therefore we cannot use reason to justify the existence of such being that we know nothing about.


pandrasb wrote:

If there's a religion without a deity, could you be atheist and religious?


Well, Buddhism is a religion without a diety... As long as you firmly believe in the teachings and practice it, you will still be considered religious.


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I find it somewhat funny when I see people basing their ideas of an afterlife off of a "theory", and even funnier when they claim them to be true with no actual "physical proof". This is exactly the same as "religion" FYI. BTW, "religion" is just a word describing a particular system of faith and worship (which atheism definitely falls into that category). The word "church" generally means a place where Christians go to worship in our world today, but the word "church" in the Bible means the people who believe it to be true. The act of lumping all Christians into a generalized group of "idiots" is not a smart thing to do, and it generally causes you "atheists" to be lumped into a group of "closed minded fools". I do not hold these beliefs personally. I am a Christian. I am also interested in science. I LOVE astronomy, and I have a huge respect for molecular biology. Both of these forms of "science" have evidence that can be taken in many different ways. I can look at an atom and figure that it's so complex that there's absolutely no way it just happened to pull itself together over trillions of years to eventually form the human body, while at the same time, someone else will look at it and say the opposite. We can then call these things "theories". There is NO "proof" that either idea/concept/hypothesis is 100% true based off this alone. The only thing we can be certain of is our own experiences. I was born once, therefore I can say that I was conceived inside a womb at the beginning of my life. My physical body experienced that, even though I don't remember it. This is a similar concept as to why many Christians are so willing to share their faith. They have had an experience of sorts, often times unexplainable, and they want to share how they were affected by it. Many people are hated for their beliefs in anything, and this type of thread has its way of bringing out the haters/closed minded individuals that perpetuate their religion of hate, and their doctrine of intolerance, yet at the same time, it can open doors to free thinking and the positive exchange of intellectual ideas. This is why I love commenting on these things. I sometimes get really moody, and feel attacked to a degree, but sometimes I can pull through that and have really good conversations with people who believe something different than I do. I cannot "prove" to you that God exists, or that Christianity is true, based off of "visible evidence", but I can share with you what the Bible says, and of my own experiences in the faith. At that point, you are free to come up with your own conclusions. The mind is an amazing thing! It's really great that we can each look at a painting and feel completely different about it. This is the same for any intellectual concepts as well. If anyone is interested in furthering this discussion, I'd love to share what God has done in my life that has me 100% convinced that He's real. Hit me up at brianhorn85@gmail.com

Also, Naruto rules!!!!


Actually, you forgot that church has two meanings in general, and not just in the Bible. However, often than not people cannot tell the difference. There is "church", which means a place of worship. Then there is "Church" with means a community or a group of people who share the same belief. What is the difference? Capitalization of the word.

People are doubtful of experience, because as Plato and Artistotle had previously said, our body misleads us. It entraps up to believe in only through the sense.

I'm not trying to say that God does not exist because what Hume basically says is that you cannot approve of disapprove that there is a God, but these are just some things to think about. It tries to go against the claim of St. Thomas Aquinas's cause and effect where A moves B and B moves C, but what then moves A? The thing that makes it move must also be in the same state. Aquinas states that there is a first mover, because if there was no first mover, there would be no second mover. However, the first mover should not be like the rest, because it should not be moved by anything. It is then, the unmoved mover. Thus the unmoved mover is God.

It is not that people need "physical evidence", but there are some that are materialists. Okay, you said experience. Hume says that the only way to know the cause and the effect is by the way of experience. However, he argues that "how does one know that God is the cause of the world and the world is His effect when no one has ever had any sense of impression of God? Furthermore, no one has had an impression of the relation between God and the world. All that we are capable of experiencing are the things around us. While we do experience cause and effect relationship among natural things, there is no certainty that one could apply the relation of cause and effect on something that we have no way of experiencing. Meaning, if we believe that God is not a natural thing - the way St. Thomas had us to believe, and is beyond nature and experience, then, it is just impossible for us to have any sense impression on God.

Let us put it this way. Any knowledge that is derived from a sense experience should apply within the realm of experience. It does not follow that it could be applied beyond the realm of experience. Now, if God is presumed to exist beyond the realm of human experience--then there is no way to link God to the world as its cause (Guevarra, 2013).

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No, i'm atheist. I was born into a christian catholic family and have no problems with other people being religious. I just don't personally believe that a god exists and in the odd occurrence that he actually does exist, i'd love nothing more to hit him a major kick in the cherries for being the worlds biggest hypocrite. I think i'd be safer with satan hahaha.

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