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Post Reply are you religious? if so, why?
Posted 1/20/17 , edited 1/20/17
I've been born and raised Christian, but recently, I just haven't been able to believe. I think religion is a good thing. I think some people need it to give structure to their lives. I'm just not one of those people. It still does kind of piss me off when people give retarded arguments like the guy on the last page, though.
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I believe in God, simply because I understand that even though empirical evidence is important, there is only so much we can confirm with human perspective. Also from many well made philosophical arguments, God or a higher being does exist. Truth is not dependent on our beliefs or perspectives.
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Yes, I grew up going to church and being part of that community has helped me through rough times in my life. It's kept me balanced in how to interact with others and loving my neighbors as well as assisting those in need. Religion can certainly be used in ugly ways at times, but ultimately I do think there's an underlying good for individuals and the community as a whole.
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a619ko wrote:

I'm Agnostic Theist...

Do I believe in God?^^

Not really, but then again, when I'm scared...

I say "Jesus, please don't let the police find my stash"

Works every time! Hey, maybe their is a God watching over me! I should probably go to church more often


"I say "Jesus, please don't let the police find my stash""
LOL
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gsm642 wrote:

You are correct Buddhism is the only religion that came remotely close to getting it right the rest are so far off its not even funny before the hate comes when you die you will see I am correct. This is also why I don't believe in the death penalty. As humans we have been reincarnated so many times now that many people are remembering more and more of their past lives including reconnecting with former lovers/ life partners. There is a case in Russia from a women in a remote fishing village who died of a stroke I believe and came back and can now speak over 100 languages fluently with out any formal education. I have had my own strange experiences here in shanghai and I am pretty sure I lived here at some point in a past lived. I had an accident when I was skiing when I was 2nd year in high school long story short in the or when I was getting operated on I died somehow for almost 33 seconds. It wasn't until years later that I found out from my uncle who was in the er with me as he is a doctor that I was so far gone that they where considering cutting out my heart and massaging it to bring me back. Thank god I cam back on my own some how. It also wasn't until years later that I remember what happened which from what I read is pretty normal for nde survivors


I would love to see a link to this story if you have one. Sorry for my skepticism but I can't even name 30 languages, I find this very hard to believe.
Posted 1/20/17
I'm anti religious
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I'm an agnostic pagan. Or witch, if you will. I used to be an atheist, but I mostly believe in spirits than anything. And perhaps among the spirits, as wiccan/pagans would have it, are god-like spirits. But they aren't holier than thou, they aren't high above and out of reach like a Christian God. I work with them, like a team leader and an employee would. But in separate realms.

I also don't have a specific god or goddess I invoke, and I don't know if I ever will. I can't really tell as to why I chose this path... It was just a weird calling I had for me to do all this research on Wiccan/Pagan lure and traditions and it just... Clicked with me.

I'm a beginner, too. So far, it's mostly just me, lighting incense at my mini alter and chanting "please let my bank account make it through the month."
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Posted 1/21/17
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I'm not religious but to each their own, I say. I can easily talk about religion with other religious people(even without making fun of them! impossible!).

But I'm a logical thinker, and so try to find an explanation/solution for every question I have. It just didn't compute with me, all those religious questions I ended up with, so I'm sticking to the science of things. When I die, if there is a God/Spiritual being greeting me and telling me there is an afterlife or some such, I'll just say "oh, my bad. You know, it's so vague down on Earth, and all sorts of people are believing and fighting over different things, so I just kinda went with my own belief". God/Spiritual being will be like "Ah, no worries bro. I get it, we really need to work on our advertising a bit more, haven't really been down there in 2000 or so years so I guess it's pretty outdated now, huh?" And we'll chill, grab a beer and laugh at cat memes.
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Posted 1/21/17

gsm642 wrote:

You are correct Buddhism is the only religion that came remotely close to getting it right the rest are so far off its not even funny before the hate comes when you die you will see I am correct. This is also why I don't believe in the death penalty. As humans we have been reincarnated so many times now that many people are remembering more and more of their past lives including reconnecting with former lovers/ life partners. There is a case in Russia from a women in a remote fishing village who died of a stroke I believe and came back and can now speak over 100 languages fluently with out any formal education. I have had my own strange experiences here in shanghai and I am pretty sure I lived here at some point in a past lived. I had an accident when I was skiing when I was 2nd year in high school long story short in the or when I was getting operated on I died somehow for almost 33 seconds. It wasn't until years later that I found out from my uncle who was in the er with me as he is a doctor that I was so far gone that they where considering cutting out my heart and massaging it to bring me back. Thank god I cam back on my own some how. It also wasn't until years later that I remember what happened which from what I read is pretty normal for nde survivors


I'm curious why you would expect someone else to see the same things you did. I used to be very interesting in near death experiences, and from what I've read, the experiences vary wildly. Some people see a confirmation of the Christian heaven, while others see a Christian hell. Some people see nothing at all. One common factor is that authors on the subject have noted is that people who have some kind of afterlife experience usually experience something along the lines of their own religion. That is to say, a Buddhist would see what he expects to see, and a Christian sees what he expects, and so on. Based on the results of the most rigorous research paper on NDEs to date, it would appear that the majority of people don't experience anything at all beyond a few peculiar things. I'm sorry that I don't have a link on hand, but I feel like it was tossed around here recently.

I also find it interesting that you say the afterlife was full of extremely advanced technology. I've heard reports of people experiencing a feeling of all their earthly questions being answered while they are dead, but this is the first time I've seen an experience like this be reported. If I may ask, what kind of technology did they have in the afterlife that makes you think we are so primitive by comparison? And how did your experience lead you to believe reincarnation is what happens to the souls of the dead?
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Shadorai,

I understand how you feel. I came from a religious family growing up. When I was around 5 years old my dad was catholic and my family all participated in going to church and I was in Sunday school for awhile. Later my mom and dad decided that the catholic church was not for them and went christian. In the years since I've watched my family and myself struggle in our individual faiths. I have been at odds with religion on different occasions. However in the end I couldn't let it all go. Let me note I don't expect you or anyone else to believe in my beliefs nor will I insult another persons beliefs. Well here it goes. I believe in science just as well as religion. In science there is so much that can be explained but on the other foot there are things it cant. For me that is where religion comes in. To this day medical science has only mapped like 10% of the human brain and only a certain amount of human DNA and genome is understandable. Maybe that is the blue print of the soul that we as human beings cannot yet fathom. Many people disclaim that god cant exist because no one can hop into a rocket and pummel their way into heaven. I think the reason for that is that heaven is on another plain of existence behind a door way that we just lack the ability to find. In my opinion it would also explain why we haven't heard the voice of god for thousands of years. He went back through his door way and shut it behind him. Maybe god thought we needed to make our own choices regarding the fate of our world and ourselves. I honestly haven't a clue. One last point ill make is this. In the old testament the book of genesis says that god made the world in 7 days. Most people scratch their heads at that and I can understand why. The fossil record cant be discounted as evidence for the earths numerical age and their is carbon dating that helps to back the fossil record. The earth is 4.6 billion years old and our galaxy and universe is unbelievably old! I think that to god it literally could have been 7 days. I mean god probably doesn't even have a concept of time that even resembles our own. So 7 days= 4.6 billion years. (I have other ideas or topics I could bring up but I'll leave it off here.)

So in conclusion. I don't claim to have any answers. My aim is not to prove anyone above wrong. I just wanted to throw my view out in the open. Take or leave it. All I'm saying is that maybe science and religion can both be right. Maybe there will be a time where they can co-exist. I just wouldn't wash your hands of faith just yet. I believe in god. So maybe some of the stuff in the bible doesn't make a lot of sense. I'd rather believe that their is a greater purpose at work besides our own. That we have a fate greater that what we understand or comprehend. That is all I have to say about it. I hope whom ever decided to read this will at least come away with a few thought provoking ideas and theories. Thank you for your time.

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Posted 1/21/17
I was born and raised christian but a I never really thought of myself as a really religious person.

idk now, i might be agnostic

im fine with religious people though
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Posted 1/21/17
Am I religious?
No.
God is dead.
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Posted 1/21/17
no, I'm not religious but I do respect other peoples beliefs.
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No, however I respect the beliefs of others.
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