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Post Reply are you religious? if so, why?
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I don't care much about going to where after I die and besides, I don't want to waste my life living up to expectations of some mighty being I don't even know of, and if he were really all that mighty why would he punish some people who just chooses to believe something else instead of him by giving them ever lasting pain?
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Yes i am religious, and i do believe in god because he is the only one who can help you in your troubles. I am 100% catholic and proud of it
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I don't consider myself religious. I understand the importance of it in other people's lives. I'm not religious, nor am I Atheist...I just really don't care. I never really went to church all that much, and I never really cared about the bible, or believing in god or whatever. So I don't deny a god exists, but I don't believe it either (because I truly don't know). But I've studied religions around the world before, and most monotheistic religions are very similar in their beliefs. I know I will get some heat for saying Christianity and Buddhism are very similar (and same with Islam), but I think that everyone believes in the same thing, but somewhere it branched off into many different religions and that's where we are now.

I only truly HATE religion when people try to shove their beliefs on me. They know I don't really care, so when someone tries to correct me or enlighten me, it really gets on my nerves. So as long as you keep it to yourself, or even if you do talk about it, it doesn't bug me. Only when they try to convert/lecture/shove their ideas on me is when it bothers me. And I know it's not the case with every religious person, I have some cousins who are pretty die-hard Christian and they are the coolest people I know (because they focus on having fun instead of lecturing about their religion).

And let me say that all that was 100% my opinion. I know many many people will disagree with me, and perhaps a few may actually agree with me, but this is just my honest opinion, and I certainly don't want to start a religion war so if you disagree just ignore me and move on. lol
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If you've ever spoken to the true rulers of the planet then you'll know that they just came up with religion as a why to try and control people, this was done because they didn't really have a good criminal justice system in the way to catch criminals, so instead they came up with a load of good advice, rules and stuff to make sure people don't break the law as much. Over time this got manipulated into the ugly bout of religious conflict we have today. The planet's overlords are getting tired off their laws backfiring, being misinterpreted, ignored and stuff; so now because we have a more effective way of catching criminals, the overlords don't need to gilt-trip people and scare them into following the law with all this religious superstition. Hence they are pulling the plug and the amount of atheists are increasing.

Anyway you may be wondering about who these overlords I speak of actually are, they are dogs. Dogs rule the world and dogs can speak English (heck any language of their choice really but I speak English so they speak English to me). But their ability to speak is supernatural, so you can never discover it using science. For example, you can't dissect dogs to find out how this ability works. It is outside the scope of your ability to study or even understand. Furthermore, dogs intentionally hide this ability from humans, apart from a select chosen few like myself. Dogs only speak when humans aren't around, and they have the ability to know if humans are eavesdropping in any way (hence dogs have good hearing & can here things humans can't). So basically you will never catch them in the act, unless they deem you worthy enough to know this.

Anyway now you know, so start worshipping your dog and being nicer to him, and if your not ignorant enough, and give them enough doggy treats; you'll be allowed into the higher echelons of the dog-human hierarchy relationship, and they'll talk to you. Soon you to will be enlightened like myself.
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Kinder_Surprises wrote:

If you've ever spoken to the true rulers of the planet then you'll know that they just came up with religion as a why to try and control people, this was done because they didn't really have a good criminal justice system in the way to catch criminals, so instead they came up with a load of good advice, rules and stuff to make sure people don't break the law as much. Over time this got manipulated into the ugly bout of religious conflict we have today.


Yeah right... Religion is created by people who wonder about how does everything around us came into existence...
and therefore stories is fabricated to explain the "creation" of everything...

In fact rulers/ leaders hate the fuck out of religion...!
Russia / China basically got rid of religion...
Hitler is afraid of religion and thus kept religion under his control...
In the states, no president candidate dares to voice out their atheism(if they were) because it would greatly affect their election.

I'm sorry but saying that religion were create/embraced by leader / rulers is a load of horse crap....!
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I like Richard Dawkins quote about "We're all Atheists, some of us just take it a god further."
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My family are religious, so are most of the working class people I know. Maybe because their lives are so hopeless and they cling to something good after death that they believe in religion but I'm an atheist. But religion is alright if it gives people comfort: on another note, when it becomes utterly pretentious and nonsensical and controlling like Christianity in Africa - that is the time to tell it to fuck off!
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Kinder_Surprises wrote:

If you've ever spoken to the true rulers of the planet then you'll know that they just came up with religion as a why to try and control people, this was done because they didn't really have a good criminal justice system in the way to catch criminals, so instead they came up with a load of good advice, rules and stuff to make sure people don't break the law as much. Over time this got manipulated into the ugly bout of religious conflict we have today. The planet's overlords are getting tired off their laws backfiring, being misinterpreted, ignored and stuff; so now because we have a more effective way of catching criminals, the overlords don't need to gilt-trip people and scare them into following the law with all this religious superstition. Hence they are pulling the plug and the amount of atheists are increasing.

Anyway you may be wondering about who these overlords I speak of actually are, they are dogs. Dogs rule the world and dogs can speak English (heck any language of their choice really but I speak English so they speak English to me). But their ability to speak is supernatural, so you can never discover it using science. For example, you can't dissect dogs to find out how this ability works. It is outside the scope of your ability to study or even understand. Furthermore, dogs intentionally hide this ability from humans, apart from a select chosen few like myself. Dogs only speak when humans aren't around, and they have the ability to know if humans are eavesdropping in any way (hence dogs have good hearing & can here things humans can't). So basically you will never catch them in the act, unless they deem you worthy enough to know this.

Anyway now you know, so start worshipping your dog and being nicer to him, and if your not ignorant enough, and give them enough doggy treats; you'll be allowed into the higher echelons of the dog-human hierarchy relationship, and they'll talk to you. Soon you to will be enlightened like myself.


yes, you're right on many levels with this. this is how i think.

religion was probably made by scared humans long ago, hoping that some higher being would save them from some moment of peril.

and now, in the future, it's used to control the poor, mentally sick, criminals, etc. from doing bad things or to stop them from continuing to do bad things by using terms of karma (hell and stuff like that), but saying they can be forgiven if they stop doing bad things or something like that.
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90% of the rules of religion don't work today. (In religious countries, they force them to work).
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i believe in god and sometimes i attend to church :)
anyway, i respect the atheist position
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@shuyi000 I meant more in the past. E.g. the pope who basically controlled Europe in the middle ages, the Islamic Caliphate and many more. Saying that though, many modern day countries are still very religious, but not as much.

Now if someone doesn't use religion in their campaign its because they are going against the mainstream religious beliefs of that country, e.g. if a presidential candidate said they were atheist, they'd lose a lot of votes as people who think atheists are heathen sinners won't vote for them. That said, leaders can't always please everyone and they will go against someone's beliefs or ideals. Hence they support the mainstream and when they're being asked tough questions they'll babble on about stuff which has nothing to do with the question or change the subject.
Posted 9/3/12
Nope, don't believe in a religion b/c i believe it brings more chaos than good, although it does give people hope, if there wasn't religion some people would just commit suicide or live a very dark life w/out anything to believe in.
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AshRandom wrote:


Bazak wrote:

as for genocide i liken it to the death penalty, you do something bad enough and big enough you lose your right to live so as to protect others from you etc.


Well there you have it ladies and gentleman, the mass extermination of an entire people equated to capital punishment. Like as if women and children, en mass, could ever be worthy of the death penalty.

That's as wicked a position as anyone could possibly hold. No belief could be more insane, or irrational.


depends biblicaly were all deserving of death (remember to christians death isnt the end of our existance ) i know it doesnt sound nice, i dont like being imperfect and therefore deserving of death but its the truth. is it my fault i was born this way? no, that is ultimately satans fault and adam and eve's fault. why do you think god gave us an out and all we have to do is accept the gift of life from jesus. justice isnt always pleasant. and by deserving of death, death in the ultimate sense is total seperation from god for eternity/hell(god wont destroy any spirit). god made things perfect so no one and no thing had to be separated from him or suffer, then satan deceived adam and eve and they fell the results speak for themselves.

regardless of what you think even children aren't innocent (compared to older humans yes but ultimately they are and we were sinfull from the beginning). does that mean i want a child to die? no. matter of fact i would rather they live and have a chance to come to god and have some happiness in their lives if even remotely possible. and im not the person to make that decision i wouldnt ever think that i know enough to decide if someone deserves a chance to live or whether they will waste their life. thats gods domain. (also by the way children get a free pass into heaven as they havent yet grown old enough to make the choice of whether or not to follow god. not diminishing that sadness of the loss of potential life however the blame there lays solely on the shoulders of the adults of those citys/ peoples etc). in the end those were matters of letting corruption spread or not.

now im gonna be realistic with you i dont know the whole bible through and through and i dont believe any human does and i dont think you will convince me otherwise. so i dont know every specific instance of genocide. the only place im even remotely qualified to debate about in any detail is Sodom and Gomorrah. honestly i dont know everything about the situation. but my best guess of it is any women and children that died there had about as much chance of being saved or leading good lives as a rock does of spontaneously turning into well anything other than a rock. god lead the few people out that could be saved and ended it.

im not gonna pretend to have all the answers or know the situations of those events. but i trust that god knew what he was doing and thats what our faith is supposed to be, that god is perfect and knows what he is doing (i dont need faith to tell me god exists i believe that based on evidence i have seen but that is a discussion for another time and place). this life is filled with pain for everyone some suffer more than others(much much more). but in the end there is hope and peace, that doesnt make the horrors an sufferings of this world right, but say you would do any better in gods position and i wont believe you.

honestly i dont think anything ive said or will say, will change your thoughts on this so ill just end it here and let you have the last word. i will pray for and wish you happiness and that you come to god someday. and by the way to the other poster who wants to see me burn in hell. im sorry if i have offended you, i merely speak what i believe, one thing though a true christian should (should being the key word here) never wish unnecessary suffering on anyone i did not say im happy that anyone died or suffered. its a really sad thing that things like that have had to happen.

this world isnt a nice and happy place and there is nothing we can do to make it perfect there will always be those who try to harm and hurt others all we can do is stand up and help eachother when we can and fight against what is wrong. cant really think of much more to say so ill just stop here.
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Nope, not religious at all. Why? I believe most religion came from someone wanting a scapegoat for what they've done wrong. That being said though, if I was to convert into anything, it would have to be Buddhism.
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I am not a religious person, but I do consider myself to be a devout Christ-follower. It seems like a self-contradicting statement, I know, but let me explain. I define religion as a list of things that man does (rituals, sacrifices, good works, etc.) in order to reach heaven, nirvana, or whatever the pinnacle of their religion is. What biblical, fundamentalist Christianity teaches, however, is what God has done through his son Jesus to reach man. As such, I've started to stray from using the word "Christian" to describe my beliefs. Yes, I am a Christian, and no, I don't believe that there's anything wrong with calling other people by this name, however I feel that too much focus is being placed on structures commonly associated with the Church (going to church on Sunday, striving to be "good" people, the church buildings themselves, etc) and not the Savior who died on the cross who brought the Church into being.
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