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Post Reply are you religious? if so, why?
Posted 10/26/12
Perhaps God truly exists, considering how religion lets you profit without any investment.
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Technically, everyone is religious.


how is that? i'm curious for an intelligent answer.
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I'm very religious, and Christian, though not a regular on forums anymore - I had some very bad experiences where if you don't get a reply on the first page, even if a person is patently wrong, all your efforts will be wasted.

I believe in God because I've seen his hand at work, and done work for him... and, on some rare occasions, been given instructions by him. I've seen the sort of change his love can make in people's lives, especially if it's expressed by the right person, in the right time, in the right way. Beyond that, I am too much a scientist to believe that science has - or even can - provide us with a complete view of the universe, though it is and remains an incredibly powerful tool for figuring some things out. I've had a few experiences that aren't scientifically quantifiable, mostly because I have no idea how to replicate them. There is not an inherent conflict between science and religion.

As to the poster who feels that the universe is too big to focus on humans entirely? I quite agree.

All theistic religion is about the relationship between God and mankind. There is no need for us to understand His relationship with other planets, or the universe's entirety.
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Posted 10/26/12 , edited 10/26/12

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DetectiveAlex wrote:

Technically, everyone is religious.


how is that? i'm curious for an intelligent answer.


Perhaps because all of us do irrational things on a daily basis that may / may not have been rigorously tested and reviewed? And / or decide our meal decisions with coin flips?

Seriously, though, if religion is a way of living that assumes our actions have consequences outside their own, immediate effect, that there is a will to the universe and the events that occur in our lives, and that there are some things that are irrational and still work...

I think a lot more people are religious than would say.
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I'm very religious, and Christian, though not a regular on forums anymore - I had some very bad experiences where if you don't get a reply on the first page, even if a person is patently wrong, all your efforts will be wasted.

I believe in God because I've seen his hand at work, and done work for him... and, on some rare occasions, been given instructions by him. I've seen the sort of change his love can make in people's lives, especially if it's expressed by the right person, in the right time, in the right way. Beyond that, I am too much a scientist to believe that science has - or even can - provide us with a complete view of the universe, though it is and remains an incredibly powerful tool for figuring some things out. I've had a few experiences that aren't scientifically quantifiable, mostly because I have no idea how to replicate them. There is not an inherent conflict between science and religion.

As to the poster who feels that the universe is too big to focus on humans entirely? I quite agree.

All theistic religion is about the relationship between God and mankind. There is no need for us to understand His relationship with other planets, or the universe's entirety.


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Posted 10/26/12
I am Christian, that being said at the same time I am not very religious. But at the same time, I get annoyed at all the pointless conflict between theists and atheists. It just irritates me, there is such an unbelievable amount of arrogance that comes from both sides.

"If you don't accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, you are going to hell" - western protestant Christians.

"If you believe in God you are delusional"- modern "new atheist".

The new atheist are fundamentalist Christians who believe in one less god.
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Posted 10/26/12
I'll be honest, born and raised as a Catholic. I still think that there is value in the Book.

However, I have since changed my belief to Agnosticism because the Universe is to vast and we just don't know enough to make certain claims just yet...I hold the belief that religion picks up where science cannot yet explain.

As an answer to your question I propose a question...what exactly do you mean by religious? Religion, faith, and belief are separate things and without an accurate definition the quesiton cannot be answered. I am going under the assumption that the term religion here means either a specific denomiation or affilitation. (Sorry part philosophy major...I would love to discuss this topic further)
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DetectiveAlex wrote:

Technically, everyone is religious.


how is that? i'm curious for an intelligent answer.


As long as you have some sort of view that relates to religion, be it a a lack of belief or otherwise, you can be considered a religious person.
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Posted 10/27/12

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shadorai wrote:


DetectiveAlex wrote:

Technically, everyone is religious.


how is that? i'm curious for an intelligent answer.


As long as you have some sort of view that relates to religion, be it a a lack of belief or otherwise, you can be considered a religious person.


that's not quite true. if you don't like onions, are you conisdered a person who eats onions? a lack of belief in religion is not a kind of belief.
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DetectiveAlex wrote:


shadorai wrote:


DetectiveAlex wrote:

Technically, everyone is religious.


how is that? i'm curious for an intelligent answer.


As long as you have some sort of view that relates to religion, be it a a lack of belief or otherwise, you can be considered a religious person.


that's not quite true. if you don't like onions, are you conisdered a person who eats onions? a lack of belief in religion is not a kind of belief.


So long as you have a view on God, you can be considered religious. Religion doesn't have to be a system of beliefs that say you love or believe in God.
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but my point is, not believing in religion isn't a different kind of belief in religion. it means you're just not religious.
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I am religious and I am a Sikh. Sikhism believes in science and physics. So I Believe in it.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that ANY opinion on God makes you religious. Unless you don't really care about God at all and have no opinions, which I haven't seen in a person before.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that ANY opinion on God makes you religious. Unless you don't really care about God at all and have no opinions, which I haven't seen in a person before.


like i said earlier, if you don't like onions, are you considered as a person who eats on onions? no, you're not. do you understand my comparison?
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I think I grasp what you're saying, but just to make sure, can you explain it more thoroughly?
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