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I'm an atheist but I was/am raised/be raised Catholic (I haven't old my parents that I'm an atheist >.<)
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I'm an atheist but I was/am raised/be raised Catholic (I haven't old my parents that I'm an atheist >.<)


You're not alone. I'm in the same exact situation . To be honest, I don't think I'll ever be able to tell them .
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Many people try to use the argument that because Christians don't accept science they are fools because they are hindering the progression of logic and blinding themselves to truth. And you know what? This is probably true!

...But not for the reasoning that is so often proposed. That is to say, that they are angrily rejecting it for fear that it will somehow diminish their own view's validity.

I think that it needs to be understood that no one of any particular religion will claim that they are somehow perfect by any standards, their own or otherwise, and this is a fundamental part of understanding the true nature of the faults regarding the weak acceptance of, and occasional hostility towards science.

I say "faults" because the misunderstanding does not belong to just one side:

On the side of those who reject science because of their "faith" in their respective religion, the problem is one of conviction; when they claim to believe that their deity is all-powerful and all-capable (and that all of creation was intended as a demonstration of His power) they somehow immediately limit Him by vehemently denying even the possibility that He at the same time created the more "outlandish" aspects of modern physics, i.e. parallel dimensions. There is no logical reason for this. There is no theological reason for this.

The fault among religious people is a failure to realize that faith does not come in the form of a definition; there is a disconnect where what has been called faith actually becomes a little glass jar into which every part of their religion is shoehorned and put on a pedestal to worship. Not noticing that by assigning a limit to the possibilities of their creator's use of power they have elevated themselves to the highest position, even above the one they claim to worship, by claiming they are the ones with the definite ability to assign truths.

To sum up: the fault of the religious detractor from science is to not allow for the possibility that their deity bestowed upon science a special ability to look into His almighty power and incredible grandness through new theories and discoveries.

On the side of those who condemn religion for its nonacceptance of science: a caution. Do not assume to have seen some definite error on the part of the religious that invalidates their views entirely. What you have seen is merely the problem that I have outlined above: a theological problem indeed, but one within the heart of the individual and not the religion as a whole.

What is visible to the solely scientific (and very often times not to the religious) is a symptom of human nature. But what is visible when the religious cringe and back away from the revelations of science is not a retreat and it is not a hint of a total overall incorrectness, but is instead nothing more than (a strange phrase when considering the theological implications of an error of this scale) an indication of the person's lack of faith within their own religion as they don't give room for their God to surprise them.

Don't get me wrong, I will be completely honest with you: I don't actually personally believe that parallel dimensions means parallel populations of life (and I know this is in complete digression from the discussion, I simply find it to be a main point of contention). I believe that the arrival of humans was something created independently from the rest of the universe and therefore was not multiplied or copied into the further dimensions in the same way that the rest of the universe may have been.

But what I hope separates me from the types of religious people that science lovers oft loath is the fact that when a new profound scientific discovery is proposed, rather than defending my current view of the world I try to sit down and realize how much of God's power I've just had demonstrated to me.

I hope that with this kind of thinking both sides would be able to seep more towards the middle where neither party has to condemn the other to maintain their respective belief. And I hope that after having taken so long to read this you will understand that I am trying to bridge that gap while preserving who I am and that you will respect me all the more for it.

I apologize for the incredibly long post, I might not even make sense to anyone else, I kinda just wanted to take this opportunity to find where I stood on the matter myself.
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shadorai wrote:
this is an example of a dumbass thing that happens with me and religious people ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME= someone asks me about my religion, (usually christians, because that's all there really is around here) and i say, "oh. i'm atheist. i just think religion is kinda silly." and then the christian says, "dude! but if you don't believe in god, you'll go to hell!" and then i usually punch them or something because they deserve it and say, "how am i going to hell... if i don't even believe in religion, mr. smarts?" and then they usually walk away.


Christian here :)

While I don't agree with Christians pushing their beliefs on others and telling them that they will "go to hell", I also think your deduction of "how am i going to hell... if i don't even believe in religion, mr. smarts?" to be just utterly stupid (I don't mean to offend). It's like saying that "I don't believe in gravity, so how could it possibly tie me to Earth?" and then flying away ...just because you don't believe something doesn't automatically make it untrue.

As for the question at hand, I'm mainly religious because I was raised that way, but as of recently I've been questioning the bible and my own beliefs a bit more. There are some things in Christianity that are clearly either untrue or completely exaggerated for the point of explaining a moral value through story telling (Noah's Ark, for example). I find it silly that so many Christians take these stories to heart as truth, without considering that their real purpose is simply to explain a moral.

I like the Christians morals, "love thy neighbor as thy self", for example. And while I do believe in God himself, I think that taking history or prophecy from the Bible too much is bad practice, and I urge more Christians to think about this harder.

TL;DR - I like the Christian morals, but I dislike when Christians take biblical stories too literally. I'm mainly Christian because of being raised that way, but have recently found my own interpretation of the religion.
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I come from a Catholic family who gave me the option to choose any religion I wanted. I chose none.
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coldfire99000 wrote:

What is visible to the solely scientific (and very often times not to the religious) is a symptom of human nature. But what is visible when the religious cringe and back away from the revelations of science is not a retreat and it is not a hint of a total overall incorrectness, but is instead nothing more than (a strange phrase when considering the theological implications of an error of this scale) an indication of the person's lack of faith within their own religion as they don't give room for their God to surprise them.

Don't get me wrong, I will be completely honest with you: I don't actually personally believe that parallel dimensions means parallel populations of life (and I know this is in complete digression from the discussion, I simply find it to be a main point of contention). I believe that the arrival of humans was something created independently from the rest of the universe and therefore was not multiplied or copied into the further dimensions in the same way that the rest of the universe may have been.

But what I hope separates me from the types of religious people that science lovers oft loath is the fact that when a new profound scientific discovery is proposed, rather than defending my current view of the world I try to sit down and realize how much of God's power I've just had demonstrated to me.

I hope that with this kind of thinking both sides would be able to seep more towards the middle where neither party has to condemn the other to maintain their respective belief. And I hope that after having taken so long to read this you will understand that I am trying to bridge that gap while preserving who I am and that you will respect me all the more for it.

I apologize for the incredibly long post, I might not even make sense to anyone else, I kinda just wanted to take this opportunity to find where I stood on the matter myself.


Amazing post, beautifully written; I concur :lol:
Love the bolded part. I think of myself as that type of religious (Muslim) person, too. I'm majoring in physics ans astronomy is my passion. I can't even describe the feelings I get when I see lightning, tornadoes, hurricanes, and even animations of how scientists think stars explode. You can't even being to imagine what something with that kind of power (a massive star) looks like when it explodes. And I also believe in multiple universes, but I believe that there are not other humans there or similar intelligent beings. But I believe there may be simple organisms living on planets or moons somewhere.
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I don't think I'm religious, but I like learning about religions...

I like to see the reasons and history behind them... but I've never actually studied christianity yet...
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Infinal wrote:

I am citizen of the world. My religion equals love. And my political view, is Oneness.


Well said
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I am an agnostic atheist, I know why people believe, and i find the reason half assed, heaven nor hell nobody wants to be in a couscous mindset forever, if in heaven, after about one year, you would be bored out of your FUCKING MIND, and eternity is fucking more than Googol (10,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000,­000), so it might as well be hell. philosophically, i find Shintoism the most just of the religions, it gives a idea that everything has value
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I consider myself Agnostic. Though there may be a higher power out there...I believe in self refinement and building on the foundation of which makes us well...us. What can we do as people? for ourselves and/or for others? We have a lot of potential in which we can (or not) decide to use to an impressive degree..so my eyes are usually down on our own level as human beings, rather than above or beyond...though aspects such as those aren't out of the question.
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shadorai wrote:
this is an example of a dumbass thing that happens with me and religious people ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME= someone asks me about my religion, (usually christians, because that's all there really is around here) and i say, "oh. i'm atheist. i just think religion is kinda silly." and then the christian says, "dude! but if you don't believe in god, you'll go to hell!" and then i usually punch them or something because they deserve it and say, "how am i going to hell... if i don't even believe in religion, mr. smarts?" and then they usually walk away.


Christian here :)

While I don't agree with Christians pushing their beliefs on others and telling them that they will "go to hell", I also think your deduction of "how am i going to hell... if i don't even believe in religion, mr. smarts?" to be just utterly stupid (I don't mean to offend). It's like saying that "I don't believe in gravity, so how could it possibly tie me to Earth?" and then flying away ...just because you don't believe something doesn't automatically make it untrue.

As for the question at hand, I'm mainly religious because I was raised that way, but as of recently I've been questioning the bible and my own beliefs a bit more. There are some things in Christianity that are clearly either untrue or completely exaggerated for the point of explaining a moral value through story telling (Noah's Ark, for example). I find it silly that so many Christians take these stories to heart as truth, without considering that their real purpose is simply to explain a moral.

I like the Christians morals, "love thy neighbor as thy self", for example. And while I do believe in God himself, I think that taking history or prophecy from the Bible too much is bad practice, and I urge more Christians to think about this harder.

TL;DR - I like the Christian morals, but I dislike when Christians take biblical stories too literally. I'm mainly Christian because of being raised that way, but have recently found my own interpretation of the religion.


but you see, what you said is very stupid. (no offense) gravity is a scientific FACT, and "hell" is a religious BELIEF. there's no evidence of hell. but there's evidence of gravity as long as we're all stuck to the ground. do you see what i mean?

and yes, one of the reasons i'm not christian like the rest of my family is because the stories in the bibloe are absolutely ridiculous.
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I am religious and some of the responses here are a little sad and disheartening. I'm not sure what happened, but I hope you grow and meet the kind of religious people who won't damn you, but enlighten you. Not necessarily converting, but provide some light on the subject and help your understanding. Learning about different religions can fun like learning about different cultures. To say an important part of someone's life is a total joke is very hurtful. Please keep that in mind.

Religion is something felt and Faith is a belief that which is felt is true. It can fade, it can be doubted, it can even be broken, but there's always Hope that it can be restored. Religion is Love, Devotion is a faithfulness to that Love that cannot be shaken. Say what you will. This is what I believe and you can criticize it all you want or you can consider how it applies in your life. I just hope this helps someone there who might be going through a tough time.
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I am not religious. I am spiritual though. Religion has been used by the Elites as a form of mind control. God does not want you to follow any religion. God wants you to follow you own path and not be a sheep/group thinker.
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I wouldn't say I'm much of the religious type... I'm more spiritual than anything. I do believe in a "God" But only to a certain existent ...
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