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That's why I'll go build my own religion, with blackjack and hookers xD
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That's why I'll go build my own religion, with blackjack and hookers xD


Can I be the third Head of Church? That should be around the time right after it falls into a flat out prostitution ring.
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throughout history, in my opinion, i think we have seen that religion does not necessarily staunch growth. Look at the Greeks and how much they accomplished in science and philosophy etc. The same with the Arabs , who also accomplished a lot in science. Both accomplished much and they both were religious Zeus, Islam etc.
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I'm not religious myself. If there was proved some sort of god actually existed I would believe, but I wouldn't do more than that. I live my own life.

Religion isn't bad per se, in fact, it can be good to have something to believe in, something you feel will always be there and support you. I can see why some people like that.

The problem lies in the few, but loudmouthed, extremists who takes it too far. This doesn't really help letting religion evolve naturally as it has done so far (from strictly worshipping a god to, in some cases, only believe in some kind of creator) and integrate it with society. Instead society and religion has started to clash which isn't good at all.

I just wished neither side would be so stubborn. Just accept each other, be friendly and find a solution.
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I'm agnostic. Regardless of the fact that I was almost constantly told as I child that I was going to burn in hell while the devil ripped apart my body, I don't let that influence my outlook on religion. I have no real problem with anyone's religion as long as they don't spread hate. I am a "Live and let Live" kind of person. If someone disagrees with me, I am alright with it. As long as they don't bash me over the head with their bible or whatever book they choose to believe in, you'll get no problems from me.
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People here on Earth use the term Hell too lightly and fling it about. God is the One Who Judges, what right have humans to decide the future of their brethren? Christ is pained so very much at all of the tortured souls of Hell, I'm sure. If one of us were to feel the pain of the Lord, we wouldn't last very long.
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Wow, this thread is 65 pages of utter wank.

Don't you know the only two topics you never bring up with people you might want to speak to are religion and politics?
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Ink-e wrote:


kuro_ashi wrote:

That's why I'll go build my own religion, with blackjack and hookers xD


Can I be the third Head of Church? That should be around the time right after it falls into a flat out prostitution ring.


Douso douso! Sure, you're welcome my little lamb XD haha
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VeniVidiVici- wrote:


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Well let me ask you a question really quickly. What is harm?

You'll probably say one of many commonly accepted social definitions, but are those undeniable definitions, impossible to say otherwise? Not at all.

You see, what you consider harm, isn't necessarily considered harm by others. This is why you have to be a self-interested actor, so to say. Even if it means that you aren't being exactly fair. ;-).

Of course, I don't want to let extremists harm me either. I'm definitely being self-interested =).

Sorry, just having a bit of fun here.


Wait, so you understand what I mean but I don't understand what you mean. Tell me other types of harm others may consider that I won't.


Well, pick a concept you find reprehensible. For instance, pedophilia. Chances are there are some pedophiles who don't consider their actions harmful. In other words, there isn't universal agreement on what is harmful. There is no undeniable definition.

On the other hand though, this doesn't mean that you shouldn't oppose pedophilia. You simply have to realize that people may disagree with you. You probably should stay self-interested and keep opposing it, if you know what I mean.


Oh, I'm terribly sorry, I assumed I was talking to the average morally acceptable human being around here.
We all know there's crazies out there. But by harm I mean physically and mentally harm
Do you think I'm wrong?
If so you might have a problem.
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God does not judge, you judge yourself after death. As for the ignorant, we are already in Hell. We are all in the 3rd level of Hell. If you choose to be an even more Satanic person AKA a Demoniac, you will further go lower in Hell. If you are not that bad, you will reincarnate in this dimension over and over until you learn your lesson. That is the law of Karma. So, in essence you choose to go to Hell or to go to Heaven. Everything is a choice in this Universe since God gave us free will.

There are 12 dimension to our reality. The first three dimensions is Hell, and the higher levels are the ever increasing Beauty of Heaven. The higher you go, the more beautiful Creation becomes.

Remember people, all the world's great religions were brought here by God, hence there is only one religion and humans have caused it to become secular and stupid. All religions are not contradictory, but rather they are complimentary.

As far as I know, Vishnu/God/AllA has manifested/incarnated 24 times to help save the world. According to some people, Kalki, the 25 Avatar of God has already incarnated along with his consort and ascended masters.


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Why do you have to call him an idiot? Is it because you don't have a legitimate argument? All Atheist resort to name called because they have lost the debate. If you are not aware, Atheism is also a belief system which is another way of calling religion.



That's nice... Could you please state where I had mentioned I was an atheist anywhere in this thread?

If you can I'll be the first to vouch for your reading comprehension skills...

And I never said he was an idiot. I said Veni was not one...


Lmaoooo mohinis so out of it.
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VeniVidiVici- wrote:
Oh, I'm terribly sorry, I assumed I was talking to the average morally acceptable human being around here.


That begs the question.


We all know there's crazies out there. But by harm I mean physically and mentally harm


Well, what is harm? Define it for me, without using 'hurt' or anything synonymous. Furthermore, define for me the exact line between justified harm and unjustified harm.

It's a really complex issue.

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Have you guys also noticed that Atheist ignorantly worship science as a dogmatic religion and a type of false god? Atheist are just as rigid in their belief systems/religion as a fanatic Theist.


So not having a religion means I'm religious? Does that mean if I don't collect stamps that makes it my hobby? Ok dude...
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Plus if you look at it that way praying to make yourself feel better isn't that just you using an excuse to not have to talk out your emotional problems over the situation by using a false being as your witness...Personally i'd rather put my emotions into something real instead of trying to create something that you can only believe to exist, when i could rather just believe in myself or the ability of others.



So you're saying praying isn't a valid way of "talking out" your emotions, because there 'might not' be someone on the other end of the line. Sounds reasonable, until you consider the plethora forms of self-therapy (e.g. writing, painting, etc.) that are touted by psychologists/therapists. You also imply that someone's praying could be used as an excuse so they wouldn't have to talk to the people around them about their issues. This has a lot more to do with how a person deals with stress and grief, than it does their religious beliefs or practices. Prayer is considered a form of meditation--and any form of meditation is highly recommended for people going through tough situations--it tends to make it easier to talk out your problems, instead of being an excuse to run away from them. Though I do understand that you disliked the comment you were replying to
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You might be interested to know, though, that what you described as "putting emotions into something real" is the same as having faith--there isn't any way to measure a person's will to live, just as there isn't any way to guarantee that no one involved in their care will make a mistake: there's only hope. The only difference here between someone who prays and yourself is that the prayerful person is asking a deity to step in and help the person heal him/herself, while you are hoping that the person will get better on his/her own. I don't think either person's emotions are really being wasted in these endeavors. Unless you have something against being compared to someone with different beliefs than you, I guess.

The only issue people tend to have in this area of discussion is with people who use faith to the exclusion of medicine--though that would be a big leap from the original topic of prayer as a form of comfort in a difficult situation.

Long story short: Emotional reactions are simply that--an expression of emotion. They don't bow to the merits of reasoned discussion--and they tend to overpower and obliterate any such discourse that they come across. Only you can prevent flame wars.
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yes i am because of my parents
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