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Religion is one of those argumentative ideals. Religion started with the "creator", but you cannot specify who this "creator" might be. People do not believe in the thereafter, only the here and now, much like the opposite in which people also believe that one rules all, and that heaven/hell is like either government, or battle.

For many centuries if you had faith, you had religion. You cannot say when religion first came to existence, but many Christians seem to believe, from my understanding, that religion began at the time of Christ. Although, I kid you not, it did not "begin" with him (heads exploding), that word being a relative phrase that might mean either the idea or religion itself. Being Atheist and a Theist, it is not set in stone what the truth is, just your beliefs. I could believe in a giant alien bug that came from the sky to place our races individually among the wastelands. It might not be your belief, but what if it was mine? Scientology is basically that, but those are seeming like the crazy people of this world, but it is not true, since that is the basis of all religion. People believe we were brought here by a powerful being, and that one being created everything and all. Scientology would be normal for how people react to the bible today. How can someone from earth even remotely contact a being from another world, and only that one guy? I could make my own religion based off of that but it would be considered a cult.

So, Jesus makes a cult, worst-case scenario. He only has people believe in him through his eyes, preaching like he is god's son. Perhaps his gathering of people and making them believe what he thought of as right was considered cultist and thus he was placed on a cross as a symbol to people who took it as their own? So then they spread the word on and on, eventually reaching England, and all-the-while people think they actually "seen" god through Jesus' eyes, but left out Jesus.

I have actually had someone tell me "Oh god told me to date him, told me to marry him" and then months later. "God showed me it just wasn't the right time", of course thinking to myself, this is not someone who thinks a lot about the future, since he actually told her in the first place that he believed god wanted her to go to him. Yet, she said explicitly that God told her to do it.

Many interpretations and so many misguided people. It would be easier if god would tell the world, but no, he tells "special people". If that is so, then why tell me that I can if I allow him into my heart? Meanwhile there are those people who still have not spoke to god yet? Billions of people.

So much to disprove the religions, but I don't think you can or cannot disprove god. Btw, god goes bowling, apparently that is called thunder. =/


There are Religion without a creator...
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In the olden days ,while people were coming out of a barbaric existence and moving towards civilization, they needed some kind of a guidance which was provided by the leaders and more powerful men within their community. Man began by worshiping nature since nature was all powerful against the fury of which he had no power.But as things stand today, Religion has become all powerful with its leaders trying to gain importance and power by instigating their followers to hate and divide people.
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i believe in heaven and hell, in the devil and god. but i don't give a shit about either(x i do what i want and believe what i want
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shuyi000 wrote:

There are Religion without a creator...


I said started, I didn't say all religion had to be of a creator lol.
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Pointless Discussion is pointless. Someones belief or non belief in a god should be kept to themselves. When people bring up what they do or don't believe in, it just makes others angry and feel they have a need to voice their opinion causing a chain reaction.
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As of now, the generation of today likes to expose to all ideals. Even having a non-ideal is an ideal too. It's like searching for a high school identity.

But, as soon as we hit a certain age, people tend to stick to that one religion... no, a belief.


Anyway, it sucks to find out that the most religious ones are the most violent ones, gossipers, haters, etc.
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In the end, it your own choice to what you believe in. Still someone got to be right even if they can't fully prove it and even then people will still want to make their own decisions. What ever is true, something will happen against the idea's of other people whether there being in fact nothing or there being places such as heaven, hell or something completely different. Many people may have to face the consequences if they are wrong and will have to deal with them. This has a high chance that they will have to face them for eternity with no way of changing what happened.

From years at looking at what the most likely to be true with any possible consequences I would not want to face (Doesn't really matter if I believe in evolution or similar beliefs since they have no consequences from what I know), I chose to believe in Christianity. It makes more sense that there is only one God since if there was more than one, they would likely clash with each other. On top of this, I cant see how something chaotic could create something so perfect either (When did you last see an explosion create anything, let alone something as complex as DNA).

Also from reading the Bible, ive read many different parts that can be seen as something that could be seen scientifically now but were written long before the science we know about even existed (Examples at: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tba/universe-confirms-bible and http://www.reasons.org/articles/big-bang---the-bible-taught-it-first ).
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I don't know if he's real or not since there no poof,so I can't answer this question
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According to Quantum Entanglement, which has been observed and tested many times, if you separate a particle, they are still connected. if you move one part, the other will move. However, it does not move from signals sent out, for it moves faster than the speed of light, theoretically the fastest thing in the Universe. This would suggest that they are connected by a field, sort of like two different wheels on an axle, but not a straight line. If the Universe came into existence from one particle, it would suggest that the entirety of the Universe is in this field, possibly meaning that all events and actions are being "noticed", so to say.
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I mostly like knowing that there's something bigger than me out there,that there's goodness and the fact that IT WILL GET BETTER . sounds like a slogan but oh well
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I totally understand what you mean....it wasn't until I got older that I noticed how shameful and frightening religious people could be.

One of the reasons why I don't want to classify my faith. I believe in God and Love of thy neighbor. I wish everyone would too
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Seograth wrote:

Pointless Discussion is pointless. Someones belief or non belief in a god should be kept to themselves. When people bring up what they do or don't believe in, it just makes others angry and feel they have a need to voice their opinion causing a chain reaction.


This really only seems to be the case when you're dealing with childish individuals on both sides of the discussion. Being so, I think it's unfair you just stay this is pointless, a lot can be gained when people come together and discuss opinions. Although, on another note, many people will continue to defend their position regardless of the points brought up. Just depends on the people.
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i'm not religious because i just think religion is ridiculous and unrealistic. i am a WAY more scientific kind of guy. science just makes so much more sense.
this is an example of a dumbass thing that happens with me and religious people ALL THE F**KIN' TIME= someone asks me about my religion, (usually christians, because that's all there really is around here) and i say, "oh. i'm atheist. i just think religion is kinda silly." and then the christian says, "dude! but if you don't believe in god, you'll go to hell!" and i say, "how am i going to hell if i don't even believe in religion?" and then they or i usually walk away.

although i do find some religions as interesting stories.


That's funny, Because I would never say to you " If you don't believe in God, you'll go to hell " Because The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge′en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).

Would you agree with that definition Mr. Shadorai?
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I'm a devout Christian, but I'm not the one to shove it in people's faces. I am always down to discuss my faith and I respect what ever you believe in. Do I have to agree with your views? not all and I won't force you to agree with mine.

When it comes down to it, we all have a choice to make. Does that mean I hate you? course not. Do I think less of you? not at all.

I have lots of friends who are atheist but respect my decision on believing in God.
Even thought they are atheist and don't I still love and respect them.

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davetim101 wrote:

In the end, it your own choice to what you believe in. Still someone got to be right even if they can't fully prove it and even then people will still want to make their own decisions. What ever is true, something will happen against the idea's of other people whether there being in fact nothing or there being places such as heaven, hell or something completely different. Many people may have to face the consequences if they are wrong and will have to deal with them. This has a high chance that they will have to face them for eternity with no way of changing what happened.

From years at looking at what the most likely to be true with any possible consequences I would not want to face (Doesn't really matter if I believe in evolution or similar beliefs since they have no consequences from what I know), I chose to believe in Christianity. It makes more sense that there is only one God since if there was more than one, they would likely clash with each other. On top of this, I cant see how something chaotic could create something so perfect either (When did you last see an explosion create anything, let alone something as complex as DNA).

Also from reading the Bible, ive read many different parts that can be seen as something that could be seen scientifically now but were written long before the science we know about even existed (Examples at: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tba/universe-confirms-bible and http://www.reasons.org/articles/big-bang---the-bible-taught-it-first ).


This is one of the funniest posts I've seen on this site. Thank you for amusing me.

I'll leave this here instead of entering the thread to 'debate' since I know how internet users are :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUe0_4rdj0U

This will be enlightening to those with the intellectual aptitude to understand such a debate and many of the philosophical, historical, scientific, and real life implications referenced. I have no doubt that if you are open to questioning any belief system or are capable of critical thinking this video may change your life. There are many like it but in the end it's up to the viewer to make a reasonable, rational conclusion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOk0fGYf5g4&feature=youtu.be

also edit:
To the above user... Most people seem to mix up the terms atheist, agnostic, or simply non-religious. They're worth the clarification if you intend to label yourself as one of them(or so you should tell your friends).
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