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I'm an agnostic theist.
I do believe in some sort of god or higher power, but I try not to think about it too much and just enjoy life.
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I love how atheist are now the ones constantly shoving down their beliefs onto people. They are like the new Apple of electronics..
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To say religion means mans 'god' I don't have that, I've seen it.
Nope I would not title myself religious, But I would take the title Freak and wear it gladly.
Jesus Freak, (for more type Jesus Freak into youtube). Why? Good question.
But first can you answer mine?
Why not?
If your best friend died to save you from hurt that would last forever, wouldn't you believe they did because of your sake? Have you ever heard of someone die-ing for themselves?
Think about... and please remember,
Christians are human to, we aren't perfect here, and we have realized we can't make it on our own...


If I had a friend like that I wouldn't relate his self-sacrafice to god more so then I would say he's an awesome person. So for your question: Imaginary is imaginary, so good ahead and answer why you're a jesus freak.

Christians aren't humans, they've transcended. Beyond politics or anything they can massacre and call for the genocide of a race and aren't expected to ever apologize like the rest of us humans have to. Just get on your knees and say sorry to god, for he's all forgiving even if you get tatoos, get preggie at 13, or beat up some kid cause he looked at you funny.

To say a religion can make mistakes is an understatement. If a governmental body with the same authority that church has made the mistakes it does it would be cast down and villainized.

I don't blame religion for anything, it's just a voice the masses retardly jump into cause 'life is hard.'
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2HeartsBeatAs1 wrote:

To say religion means mans 'god' I don't have that, I've seen it.
Nope I would not title myself religious, But I would take the title Freak and wear it gladly.
Jesus Freak, (for more type Jesus Freak into youtube). Why? Good question.
But first can you answer mine?
Why not?
If your best friend died to save you from hurt that would last forever, wouldn't you believe they did because of your sake? Have you ever heard of someone die-ing for themselves?
Think about... and please remember,
Christians are human to, we aren't perfect here, and we have realized we can't make it on our own...


If I had a friend like that I wouldn't relate his self-sacrafice to god more so then I would say he's an awesome person. So for your question: Imaginary is imaginary, so good ahead and answer why you're a jesus freak.

Christians aren't humans, they've transcended. Beyond politics or anything they can massacre and call for the genocide of a race and aren't expected to ever apologize like the rest of us humans have to. Just get on your knees and say sorry to god, for he's all forgiving even if you get tatoos, get preggie at 13, or beat up some kid cause he looked at you funny.

To say a religion can make mistakes is an understatement. If a governmental body with the same authority that church has made the mistakes it does it would be cast down and villainized.

I don't blame religion for anything, it's just a voice the masses retardly jump into cause 'life is hard.'



Lets be honest, out of all the fairy tales you been told when growing up the bible is one that is supposedly to be true. Add that he was a real person adds more cannon fodder for them. Life does suck, we grow out, experience hardship, watch people around go away, that hot girl from walgreens quits. So what if people try to adopt a step-father in the likes of their mid-life life cycle let them. They seem happy in their world and have something to look forward to when they die. It must be the most shittest feeling in the world that I go thru all this hardship only to keel over and become fertilizer, but some are okay with that. Just you do your thing and them do there's.. To find purpose in ones life while it be devoting it to whom ever they believe in or race car driving, it makes them happy. Dont be a dick.

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You make religion and faith sound like drugs. Which in that case I agree, smoke away! Happiness to all!~

let's throw away the pursuit of knowledge and expanding our horizons and just agree that life is indeed very very hard so there must be a god to make up for it. Oh and angels. Oh and one got cast down and turned into satan who took the form of a snake and basically mind screwed the first girl into becoming a demon forcing god to make woman from mans ribcage so he'd be only obedient to him. Yes, woman are property, the book says so.

Hurray! Now all is right with the world and we can live in happiness.

lol
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Who takes anything in the bible seriously. We don't copy and paste everything from the new testament says and force it down on people. Grow up, theres more to life then refreshing reddit every 15 mins getting off of free cam porn and playing LoL. Let them believe whatever nonsense they believe in.
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Not believing in God, a God, or Gods is just as valid as believing in him/her/shim/it/them.

Me? Not religious. I can't say I believe, but I can't really say I don't. Its no one's business anyway so haha
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Bazak wrote:

this dude chuck missler could rip his arguments to shredds so far ive heard all these before. and seen them shredded.


Clearly your ability to evaluate a debate is on the same level as your ability to evaluate evidence.
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again with the insults and no actually presenting any evidence. why are you making flat statements? i cannot argue against them you insult me and provide no evidence why i am wrong or try to convince me otherwise. im happy to debate with you in a civil manner but if you keep simply insulting me i will ignore you.

as for the debate first off the catholic's premise for making his arguments were flawed beyond belief. so i found the debate pointless (btw u didn't link the actual debate you only linked what the atheist said). plain case of taking turning literal statements in the bible and making allegory of them that is so rampant in the catholic church. if he had actual defined good (which the bible does) he could have made a much better case. though i still think he wouldn't have understood enough to actually debate.

have you actualy looked and listened to the videos i gave you? or is this just a one way thing >.>
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Closing your eyes to Science because you believe in Religion is the same as closing your eyes to Religion because you believe in Science. Using anything as a reason to not be open to new concepts and ideas is a farce.

I am so very tired of people thinking its either or when it comes to Religion and Science, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Some of the most respected, educated, and innovative thinkers were also devoutly Religious.

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Posted 8/15/12

SoTa_PoP wrote:


2HeartsBeatAs1 wrote:

To say religion means mans 'god' I don't have that, I've seen it.
Nope I would not title myself religious, But I would take the title Freak and wear it gladly.
Jesus Freak, (for more type Jesus Freak into youtube). Why? Good question.
But first can you answer mine?
Why not?
If your best friend died to save you from hurt that would last forever, wouldn't you believe they did because of your sake? Have you ever heard of someone die-ing for themselves?
Think about... and please remember,
Christians are human to, we aren't perfect here, and we have realized we can't make it on our own...


If I had a friend like that I wouldn't relate his self-sacrafice to god more so then I would say he's an awesome person. So for your question: Imaginary is imaginary, so good ahead and answer why you're a jesus freak.

Christians aren't humans, they've transcended. Beyond politics or anything they can massacre and call for the genocide of a race and aren't expected to ever apologize like the rest of us humans have to. Just get on your knees and say sorry to god, for he's all forgiving even if you get tatoos, get preggie at 13, or beat up some kid cause he looked at you funny.

To say a religion can make mistakes is an understatement. If a governmental body with the same authority that church has made the mistakes it does it would be cast down and villainized.

I don't blame religion for anything, it's just a voice the masses retardly jump into cause 'life is hard.'


couple problems first yes god will forgive you, but that doesn't mean the people you wronged have and you will have to bear the consequences. second you must repent and turn away from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior to be redeemed nothing more nothing less. if you actually do this it will be evident in your life and you wont be doing those things. that's not to say someone couldn't backslide and make mistakes we all do we all have sin and are therefore incapable of perfection were gonna make bad choices.

secondly the catholic church is one of many church's the "church" of Christianity is the body of Christ people doing the will of god just because you do something and say you do it in gods name doesn't make it right or mean god condones it. the government that is the catholic church is not the christian church and they have fallen far from what it has been an apostate like organization for many hundreds of years and made allegory of the literal for just as long.

dont worry the catholic church will get its due if it does not reform its ways. btw the by the meaning religion has taken on nowadays jesus was anti religious. he was anti ritualistic dogmatic organization that seeks to gain power and control of people.
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Bazak wrote:


SoTa_PoP wrote:


2HeartsBeatAs1 wrote:

To say religion means mans 'god' I don't have that, I've seen it.
Nope I would not title myself religious, But I would take the title Freak and wear it gladly.
Jesus Freak, (for more type Jesus Freak into youtube). Why? Good question.
But first can you answer mine?
Why not?
If your best friend died to save you from hurt that would last forever, wouldn't you believe they did because of your sake? Have you ever heard of someone die-ing for themselves?
Think about... and please remember,
Christians are human to, we aren't perfect here, and we have realized we can't make it on our own...


If I had a friend like that I wouldn't relate his self-sacrafice to god more so then I would say he's an awesome person. So for your question: Imaginary is imaginary, so good ahead and answer why you're a jesus freak.

Christians aren't humans, they've transcended. Beyond politics or anything they can massacre and call for the genocide of a race and aren't expected to ever apologize like the rest of us humans have to. Just get on your knees and say sorry to god, for he's all forgiving even if you get tatoos, get preggie at 13, or beat up some kid cause he looked at you funny.

To say a religion can make mistakes is an understatement. If a governmental body with the same authority that church has made the mistakes it does it would be cast down and villainized.

I don't blame religion for anything, it's just a voice the masses retardly jump into cause 'life is hard.'


couple problems first yes god will forgive you, but that doesn't mean the people you wronged have and you will have to bear the consequences. second you must repent and turn away from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior to be redeemed nothing more nothing less. if you actually do this it will be evident in your life and you wont be doing those things. that's not to say someone couldn't backslide and make mistakes we all do we all have sin and are therefore incapable of perfection were gonna make bad choices.

secondly the catholic church is one of many church's the "church" of Christianity is the body of Christ people doing the will of god just because you do something and say you do it in gods name doesn't make it right or mean god condones it. the government that is the catholic church is not the christian church and they have fallen far from what it has been an apostate like organization for many hundreds of years and made allegory of the literal for just as long.

dont worry the catholic church will get its due if it does not reform its ways. btw the by the meaning religion has taken on nowadays jesus was anti religious. he was anti ritualistic dogmatic organization that seeks to gain power and control of people.


That last line tickled me. Catholics came first, you know that right? xD And we live in a society where we can be hermits and still be successful so does the damnation of our fellows really mean anything if god is always willing to forgive? xD

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exactly. there is much in the bible of the workings of the world.

for instance the man widely considered the father of modern oceanography learned what he did because of passages like this (though i am unsure of the location of the passage he was obsessed with about pathways through the ocean *another case of taking the bible literally and finding the truth).

JOB 36:27-36:30

For he draws up the drops of water.
which distill as rain from the mist (vapour works too).
which the clouds drop down and pour abundantly on man.

Ecclesiastes 1:6,5

The wing goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north;
it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.

All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full;
unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

and with that you have the water cycle and a hint of the jetstreams (there is more about them in other places) and this is old testament. do you have any idea how old this knowledge is? this stuff was kinda like a blow to the head to me.
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first off no they did not, jesus was not catholic. (and also not white as the church for some reason portrays him even though i think putting up pictures of him that they dont even know are actual likenesses of him and that they at the very least know the skin colour is false is a mistake)

really how much of the bible have you read? and if you haven't read any then there is little to argue as any credible source can tell you the same thing. (btw the catholics persecuted any christiants who didnt follow their edicts). and the first churchs were simply peoples dwellings where they would meet to read the bible.

EDIT: oh and yes it does first off if someone is truly a christian (follower of christ) their actions will bear witness for them (meaning they will repent of their sins and turn away from them). so if they arent following god its obvious god knows your heart and knows if you truly are seriously trying to do what god wants. next yes and no you still have to pay the price for your actions (if you murder someone you go to jail or death sentance+ jail.)
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Watermelonheaven wrote:

I used to be Buddhist but I'm agnostic now. I see agnosticism as the middle ground between religion and atheism.

I don't think I can be sure any god is real but, at the same time, it's hard to prove that god isn't real.


Nooo, it's pretty easy. You can use philosophy to make a hardcore religious person rethink about religion. All the things people say to prove god is real are absolutely ridiculous and child's play.

"Well who created us other than god?"

"No other being out there is as powerful as god, so he must created us!" << Can't ask this question unless you're assuming there is a god so this isn't even a counterproductive argument.

And what's with priest molesting children? This is not a false rumor, these things actually happens.
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