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I've got a better game, let's play google:


Google has a religion?! Already?! Nooooooooo


Google is actually useful to people so technically it's not a religion.
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We must be careful and distinguish the meanings of various terms and concepts.

That is, between "religious" and religion.

If the original question was going by the dictionary definition, then yes- I have faithful devotion. The term to emphasize here is faith. That is, I'm faithful.

If the question is about "religious" as in the common "...religiously doing this and that" then it's not a simple answer.

The thing is, the people who put Jesus Christ on the cross were very religious people. The people who were responsible for his torture and execution were very religious. However, they had no faith in God. None. They didn't believe that a savior was sent to them by God, as promised.

Could you please restate the question so that there is no confusion? Could you ask if people are faithful, instead?
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And what proof do you have of this?
Posted 7/20/13 , edited 7/20/13

bensonc120 wrote:


Marsev wrote:


bensonc120 wrote:

I've got a better game, let's play google:


Google has a religion?! Already?! Nooooooooo


Google is actually useful to people so technically it's not a religion.


Oh snap! The people have spoken
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No. I am not religious nor atheist. I just sit on the sidelines watching both of them argue back and forth.

I'm apatheist.
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Apatheism, also known as pragmatic atheism or (critically) as practical atheism.

If you do not believe in a deity you are an atheist. Even those agnostics who feel it could go either way or that we don't have the ability to comprehend a deity level entity are still atheists. The problem here is that atheist simple means that of the deities that have been presented you do not believe them to be real. From there you can go into the subgroups like agnostic or apatheist but if you do not believe in a deity, you are an atheist.

I myself am an atheist, not to the apatheist point as I feel religion can and does do more harm than good but, I'm okay with people believing what they want to believe (for the most part) as long as it doesn't impede my life.

Also lets be fair, everyone is an atheist, some of us just believe in one less deity. ~ idontrememberwhosaidthis.
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nanikore2 wrote:

We must be careful and distinguish the meanings of various terms and concepts.

That is, between "religious" and religion.

If the original question was going by the dictionary definition, then yes- I have faithful devotion. The term to emphasize here is faith. That is, I'm faithful.

If the question is about "religious" as in the common "...religiously doing this and that" then it's not a simple answer.

The thing is, the people who put Jesus Christ on the cross were very religious people. The people who were responsible for his torture and execution were very religious. However, they had no faith in God. None. They didn't believe that a savior was sent to them by God, as promised.

Could you please restate the question so that there is no confusion? Could you ask if people are faithful, instead?


Omg this again. Faith = religion. Faithful = religious. Look it up in the dictionary. Let me guess, you are gonna say you are not religious but you are faithful and have a relationship with god.
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Omg this again. Faith = religion. Faithful = religious. Look it up in the dictionary.


Look up "connotation" in the dictionary.

Also, the term "religion" seems to exclude the first one or two definitions for "faith". What that means is that it is certainly possible for a person to adhere to a religion without being faithful of any sort... A hypocrite, if you will.

Again, please rephrase the question.
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Omg this again. Faith = religion. Faithful = religious. Look it up in the dictionary.


Look up "connotation" in the dictionary.


Connotation is exactly right. "Faith" or "relationship with god" has a much better connotation than "religious" which is why religious people will mostly classify themselves as not religious, but faithful. My question to you, do you consider yourself religious, faithful, or both?
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i'm thinking of becoming a religious individual. does anyone know which one is best at the moment in terms of points? who's winning?
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Connotation is exactly right. "Faith" or "relationship with god" has a much better connotation than "religious" which is why religious people will mostly classify themselves as not religious, but faithful. My question to you, do you consider yourself religious, faithful, or both?


I have done so in my very first message in this thread, via the dictionary definition no less.
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shadorai wrote:

i'm not religious because i just think religion is ridiculous and unrealistic. i am a WAY more scientific kind of guy. science just makes so much more sense.
this is an example of a dumbass thing that happens with me and religious people ALL THE F**KIN' TIME= someone asks me about my religion, (usually christians, because that's all there really is around here) and i say, "oh. i'm atheist. i just think religion is kinda silly." and then the christian says, "dude! but if you don't believe in god, you'll go to hell!" and i say, "how am i going to hell if i don't even believe in religion?" and then they or i usually walk away.

although i do find some religions as interesting stories.


We have a few of these threads going around. I don't want to rob you of the process, but here's how it usually goes.

An atheist discovers that there is no logic, reason, evidence, or anything approaching those things in every religion in the world.
An atheist discovers that there are a lot of people making a lot of money convincing folks of various religions.
An atheist discovers that what you believe usually corresponds to where you grow up on the planet and not necessarily the content of the beliefs themselves.
An atheist discovers he or she is a minority among a world of believers, feels they have awoken, and wonders why everyone else is still asleep.

... This may be followed by feelings of loneliness, superiority, depression, anger, irritation, and finally, with some luck and hard work, you arrive at a place where it doesn't really matter anymore. It doesn't matter that other people believe and you don't. It becomes as normal as the sun rising and setting. You look past it with a rather bored expression, having seen it 1 million times. You move on towards bigger and better discoveries, such as how to work with other people, how to be sincere, and how to be a better person. None of this has anything to do with atheism, which quickly becomes forgotten amidst the occasional lament over religious fighting and political manipulation.
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Strahfobiya wrote:

i'm thinking of becoming a religious individual. does anyone know which one is best at the moment in terms of points? who's winning?


Religion is winning and always will win due to its ineffable nature. If you want to live a life of ignorance and no worries, religion is for you.
Posted 7/20/13

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Strahfobiya wrote:

i'm thinking of becoming a religious individual. does anyone know which one is best at the moment in terms of points? who's winning?


Religion is winning and always will win due to its ineffable nature. If you want to live a life of ignorance and no worries, religion is for you.


well ty but i just wanted to know the best one in terms of what i get out of it. if i join christianity do they make me pay to pray?
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Strahfobiya wrote:

well ty but i just wanted to know the best one in terms of what i get out of it. if i join christianity do they make me pay to pray?


It depends on what you are looking for. A christian church will expect you to pay it.
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